Ocean Heat Has Shattered Records for More Than a Year. What’s Happening?

We on the right are indeed smarter than that, but Bidens followers will swallow it without question....

Biden is responsible for elevating sun activity, which is driving higher earth temperatures. He takes credit for all kinds of things that never happened and denies responsibility of what he does.
No stretch to believe he's dialed up the suns thermostat to create a crisis to take advantage of and blame on others. Biden does no live in the real world, so real world numbers are just fodder....

 

Everyone's talking about "earth temperatures", and I keep asking and nobody is willing to tell me what the total average temperature of the earth is. Can you?

 

Which part of "nature never does that sort of thing so it must be us" are you having the most trouble understanding?

 

I’m open to evidence we are aliens. Go…

 

No. Who said they did? Are you an alien? SMH.

You think nature is static? Wow.

 

Wikipedia sys-

Series of reliable global temperature measurements began in the 1850—1880 time frame (this is called the instrumental temperature record). Through 1940, the average annual temperature increased, but was relatively stable between 1940 and 1975. Since 1975, it has increased by roughly 0.15 °C to 0.20 °C per decade, to at least 1.1 °C (1.9 °F) above 1880 levels.[3] The current annual GMST is about 15 °C (59 °F),[4] though monthly temperatures can vary almost 2 °C (4 °F) above or below this figure.[5]

That is of course subject to the interpretations of the government.... and political needs.

 

If they were really concerned, they would do carbon offsets plus cut down on their extravagant carbon footprint.

 

So it's because of me driving my car to the corner store. Got it.

 

Glad to see someone on the right finally taking some personal responsibility.

 

Let's look at this. What you posted were surface temperatures. We don't know anything about what the temp is a nano meter above or below the surface. Right now I'm sitting about 5 feet above the surface, so the surface temp means nothing to me. That's why surface temperatures are useless if we're talking about heat flow. What we need is a mass that we define and then measure it's temperature.

btw, that "current temperature" may or may not be the current temperature. The number comes from this:

--and nowhere on the pic is a statement about when the measurement was made, how the measurement was made, and whether the temperature is compatible with measurements made in 1860.

Please forgive my exasperated tone and understand that I have no intention of taking my frustrations out on you. You've been very helpful, but what I'm saying is that we still don't know what is heating up w/ the greenhouse.

 

We know some of it, for instance, we know the sun is becoming more active. But we also know the sun does have high/low cycles, and that is a normal thing. We also know that natural changes that had nothing to do with human activities changed the climate of the world many times over history; created vast ice deposits- and later melted them- and more than once, long before humans entered into it.
Einstein once said "We dont know a millionth of one percent of anything". This is probably true, but we draw conclusions on what we believe at the time anyway and sometimes assume they are flawless.
I think there are so many variables that we really don't know enough to say what it causes are. We can project a change, and say if it continues it will be this or that, but that's an assumption.
Thinking what we can do will make a significant difference is also an assumption.

 

Well, undersea volcanoes are found just about all over the planet. I don't know what "scientists" miss and what they discover. But, in all honesty, if I were making my living as a "scientist" I think it would be pretty hard to miss something altogether as big as that "Tamu Massif" MONSTER out there in the Pacific Ocean. After all, one bunch of "scientists" declared that it was one of the biggest known volcanoes -- not just on Earth -- but in the entire solar system!

 

Wikipedia is William Connolley's personal anti-fossil-fuel propaganda blog.

That is revisionism. Before the CO2 climate narrative became compulsory and historical surface temperature data were retroactively altered to conform to it, it was generally agreed among climate scientists that temperatures had declined sharply in the decades after the early 1940s, while CO2 was rising rapidly. Like other historical facts about climate, this fact was considered inconvenient to the CO2 climate narrative, and was consequently deleted.

 

Yes but they have been there for billions of years - why are they suddenly heating the ocean now? And you are underestimating the size of the ocean - it would be like trying to melt a bucket of ice with a match! Again how dumb do you think scientists are? If you found this volcano on the internet why do you think scientists haven’t? Better yet who the **** do you think wrote the article you read?

 

Oooh oooh oooh! Someone else who seems to think scientists are DUMB!

 

I'm still driving my f****** car to the f****** corner store.

 

What is wrong with walking? And BTW no one has told you to stop driving your car to the corners store with the exception of a doctor wanting you to get more exercise and lose some weight

 

Sooooo - the scientists missed the big ball of gas in the sky when looking at reasons for climate change?? That they haven’t calculated where we are in the Milankovitch cycles? They haven’t measured the known greenhouse gases in the atmosphere?

 

Do us a favour and count the rabbits while you are down that hole

 

Bruh, I'd bet real money I'm in better shape than you. You should worry less outside your bubble.

 

The real scientists know that they are making projections based on only a fragment of the overall knowledge, and that this is never absolute. At the same time, ordinary people want answers, not probabilities, so they jump on the "truth" drawn from the fragment of knowledge we think we know.... and assume that the vast amount we don't know isn't there at all.

It's not popular for scientists to tell people that they are making such assumptions, and it's not good for one's career in science or politics to do so.
But it's foolish- downright stupid actually, to tell ourselves we know everything, therefore we can't be wrong.

The human race has done more damage to the earth in the brief period of it's existence than all other life on earth combined over hundreds of millions of years.
That is our performance record, hardly a bell-ringer, and it consists mostly of arrogant mistakes. We have too many capacities, and not enough understanding.
That will lead to humans being the first species in the history of the planet to be totally responsible for it's own extinction....

 

(*Sigh!*) Nobody is saying that "scientists are dumb"....

And remember, if the larger volcanoes on Earth were erupting all the time, then that would be the "norm" that you suggest... a volcanic 'coefficient', so to speak. But they're not. Volcanoes can go hundreds, thousands, or millions of years between significant eruptions.... Nevertheless, as I've suggested, we've had some real 'whoppers' lately!

So, what's heating the oceans? The behavior of mankind is definitely a contributing factor, and a large one at that. And if we take the "coefficient" viewpoint that the natural forces on Earth are pretty much as they have been for "billions of years", then the only factor left to focus on with this limited examination is the explosive, "J-curve" growth in human population, which now stands at over eight billion live humans -- an eight-fold increase in just the last 220 years! Link: https://populationconnection.org/learn/population-milestones/#:~:text=When Did the World Population,to reach 1 billion people.

But in terms of actual 'tonnage', how great is that compared to that of volcanoes, or activity on the sun, or inadequately understood phenomena that occur at the Earth's core, or a half dozen other significant factors?

 

We're supposed to believe you are concerned about giving the government full control... and yet, you're going to vote for Trump!

 

That's the paradox, and the real tragedy... we're about to give it to Trump (although that's highly unlikely) -- or -- we're going to continue to give autocratic power to Biden's hyperliberal, Leftist goon-squad. Either way, Golem, we're in deep ****!

 

Climate Change activism has been a struggle to DEMAND the government to do MORE, and the government refusing. And that is true for both Republican administrations (because of their donors) and Democratic administrations (in some cases because of their donors, others because of political calculations) So it is most definitely not a question of the government wanting to take more power, if by taking steps to protect the environment is what you mean by "autocratic" And you do mean that. It's why you try to hide it behind a meaningless word to make something the government is SUPPOSED to do sound ugly.

Your fake equivalence tells us you have already made up your mind who you're going to vote for, and are simply looking for excuses to justify it to yourself. So don't bother.... Just do what you already decided to do. We're not interested in helping you ease your conscience.