Off the Chart Universal and Multiversal Models.

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  1. wgabrie

    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    I was thinking if this was a deterministic universe, and an action (a future AboveAlpha producing his theory) caused further reactions (a major embarrassment causing AboveAlpha to wish he didn't present a blunder) that might ripple back in time and cause the Universe to cause Swensson and AboveAlpha to meet in the past to iron out AboveAlpha's misstep.

    'Cause there's a new timeline now.

    Hey, that was just something I was thinking about. Crazy! :rolleyes:
     
  2. AboveAlpha

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    So far there is no proof I made a misstep.

    If anything what I have put together fits very well with Quantum Mechanics.

    I might be wrong....but at least I am no (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) that is too afraid to stick their neck out.

    That's the problem with Physicists today.

    They are so worried about making a mistake that they miss opportunities to present possible realities all in an effort to avoid embarrassment and negative peer review.

    This has a lot to do why so little of them get laid.

    And why I always do.

    AboveAlpha
     
  3. wgabrie

    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    Oh, well I was thinking you might miss something that was obvious but you didn't figure it out until it was pointed out to you.

    As far as I can tell you have a basic idea but you haven't gotten the math down yet, and you're waiting for the Universe to be described in more details before you work out the problems.
     
  4. AboveAlpha

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    No one has gotten the Math down yet.

    But at the very least I understand the math.

    I really do not understand how Swennson is halfway to getting his PhD and does not understand the math?

    In order to understand this a person needs to understand the Multiversal Polymorphic Algebraic Equations that then set up the New Form Calculus and a person has to understand the New Form Symbology, Syntax and Function to even be able to grasp the math.

    Standard Calculus will not get a person even close to understanding of what I am trying to discuss....and it near impossible to use words to describe it.

    AboveAlpha
     
  5. Swensson

    Swensson Devil's advocate

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    Cambridge, if you must know. I don't lack normal math, but when you say you've invented your own stuff, I don't want to have to go through the entire thing with a red pen, just to have you disagree with everything I say. Besides, all my points are unrelated to the maths, so I have no incentive to make the effort.

    Well, get back to me when you find someth... well, when you've got your findings peer reviewed.
     
  6. AboveAlpha

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    I didn't invent the math or the New Form Calculus.

    Here....

    LINK....http://www.cs.gunma-u.ac.jp/~hamana/Papers/pel.pdf

    LINK....http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mpf23/papers/Algebra/mpat.pdf

    The first link deals with the SYNTAX and if you don't know the syntax you won't understand the math.

    AboveAlpha

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    Just to add this might be difficult for you to understand at your current stage of education but I would HIGHLY RECOMMEND you learn it.

    AboveAlpha
     
  7. wgabrie

    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    Okay, well I don't know what to tell you. You are dealing with concepts beyond my understanding.

    It would take me years to study up on such things and I'm not sure I'm up to it.
     
  8. AboveAlpha

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    It took me awhile as well and I am good at such things.

    Having intuition about certain possible existing realities is a dirty word in physics....intuition.

    But it has always served me well.

    AboveAlpha
     
  9. wgabrie

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    Oh, intuition, well what's that like?
     
  10. AboveAlpha

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    Just having a gut feeling that something is so.

    AboveAlpha
     
  11. wgabrie

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    LOL! Well you'll have to forgive me, but that's funny. I had gut feelings too, then I had a psychotic break with reality!

    And now I have reason to doubt my gut feelings.

    Which makes life confusing because, after I was fine on medication, I also get mixed signals from events in my life.

    I was talking to my Aunt a while back and she wanted me to go with her and see some of my cousins and an uncle jump out of a plane. And I was like No! What if they get into an accident? I don't even want to see it.

    Later I learned that a freak storm rolled in and my uncle jumped out of the plane before they radioed the planes (there were two planes with my cousins and uncle aboard) to stop what they were doing. My Uncle wound up in a tree, but he wasn't hurt thank goodness.

    My Aunt was on the ground and then before it happened she decided she had had enough and left, and she later told me that if she had been there when the accident happened she probably would have had a heart attack if she'd stayed.

    And then she wanted to know if I had had an inkling that something would happen.

    That was weird. And that wasn't the last time something like that happened to me.
     
  12. AboveAlpha

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    I tend to get such feelings as well but they usually are a result of what I know and am aware of.

    AboveAlpha
     
  13. wgabrie

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    Well you're so trained it would be hard to tell what's skill verses what's paranormal.

    I remember you said on the gun forums that your skills are bordering on precognition.

    It's a good thing there's no extra stuff in the world that would make it weird and creepy.
     
  14. AboveAlpha

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    It's only because I have been doing it all my life that it seems like that.

    After a while a person develops a kind of 6th sense about such things.

    AboveAlpha
     
  15. wgabrie

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    So, bringing this back to topic, full circle...

    What experiences have you had in the physics field regarding the multiverse?
     
  16. AboveAlpha

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    I helped develop Multiversal models at a world renown Massachusetts based higher learning institute.

    The Many Worlds model was simply too limited to explain many aspects of Quantum Mechanics.

    AboveAlpha
     
  17. wgabrie

    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    Ah yes, so you've said before.

    Considering where you've been...

    Have you thought and planned carefully about your life choices up to now?
     
  18. AboveAlpha

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    Well....let's just say that life has a way of making my plans all on it's own.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Sir........ to the degree to which my plans for you make your life difficult and complicated...… I am sorry.......... but there are thoughts in my head at this time that could catapult you into a position of responsibility that in some ways is even greater than the burden of responsibility that is on the President of the United States!

    You have been entrusted with that type of responsibility in the past to some degree....... which is one of the reasons why I feel that you can handle it again........


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ombudsman
    http://www.politicalforum.com/opini...eory-modern-world-problems-even-possible.html

    Is a Unified Theory of Modern World Problems even possible?
     
  20. Anarcho-Technocrat

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    How do you know that isn't the mental illness talking?

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    What's matter?
     
  21. AboveAlpha

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    Sure....but someone would have to develop such an algorithm first.

    Not an easy things to do.

    Abov eAlpha...p.s...Unless your the NSA.

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    Because every day I talk to myself and my other self say's it's not.

    AboveAlpha....So there!
     
  22. Swensson

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    You're having a really hard time grasping the idea that I'm not interested in the maths you're using and the fact that all the points I'm trying to make are unrelated to the maths, despite the fact that I have said so on several occasions.
     
  23. AboveAlpha

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    And your having a hard time understanding that the only real way I can tell you what you want to know is by using the math.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    But the maths you posted has nothing to do with the theoretical foundations of a multiverse. You found the most niche paper in category theory mixed in with some abstract computer science -- sure you could attempt to make an argument of a multiverse from the fundamentals of computation but you aren't.

    I'll give you my argument for a multiverse.

    There are two possible interpretations of the wavefunction: 1) the particle is in a definite location at any given time but with a probability density over space, and 2) the particle is not in a definite location at any given time, it is smeared out in space. The fundamental cornerstone of quantum theory is that you cannot obtain knowledge on the particles trajectory, since the act of observation collapses the wavefunction. This translates into an eigenvalue equation where there exists a self-adjoint hermitian operator that when applied to the wavefunction gives you a physical observable as the solution to the eigenvalue equation. The postulates of quantum mechanics does not discern between whether or not we have case 1) or 2) since we would obtain the same eigenvalues, i.e. quantum theory has the same predictions regardless of whether or not 1) or 2) are true. If, however, 2) is true then there are some startling consequences. All wavefunctions live in Hilbert Space. Hilbert Space is an uncountably infinite dimensional complex vector space with a special mathematical structure. It is a metric space in which distances are well-defined. There exists an inner-product between the vectors in the space; the inner-product of a vector with itself is one, and the space is complete which is when every cauchy sequence of vectors converges, which means differential operators exist.

    If the wavefunction is a physical structure that assigns values over space, and if all vectors in Hilbert Space are wavefunctions then Hilbert Space isn't just some abstract mathematical space it is real. In Max Tegmark's words Hilbert Space is the Level III Multiverse. Tegmark has some clever arguments for a multiverse. I suggest you read his book "Our Mathematical Universe: My Quest for the Ultimate Nature of Reality".
     
  25. AboveAlpha

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    This is just the basics.

    I am talking about numerical Quark/Antiquark virtual pairings within hadrons either dictating or a result of Causality.

    You are basically posting just an Intro to Quantum Mechanics.

    AboveAlpha
     

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