Off the Chart Universal and Multiversal Models.

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  1. wgabrie

    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yeah, but that's secret knowledge. I'm not allowed to know about that. :wink:

    When you get to that level, why, the E.T. might even be borrowing humans to fight in their wars...
     
  2. AboveAlpha

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    I probably should not discuss this but it's nothing you could not read on the net.

    When you are an alien race that understands the UFT which is necessary to viable Interstellar Travel.....war is unthinkable...however...policy is something else.

    They are here for the purpose of discovery and scientific study.

    But some races have a great deal less empathy than others as the greater intellect evolves the lessor empathy exists.

    Things just start looking as a way to and end.

    THAT...is the only issues we have with E.T.

    But they do not...war.

    Not with the level of power they can control.

    AboveAlpha
     
  3. wgabrie

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    Oh, never mind about the E.T.. I don't want to get you in trouble by discussing things you're not supposed to talk about... You might just vanish from the forums never to be heard from again.

    Besides I probably shouldn't be discussing it either. My examples would come from the time when I was a teenager, working for an unknown branch of the military. Just before I got my amnesia. I don't remember being read into anything, but I had some interesting encounters, and the last time I posted about such things, on an open forum, a relative of mine was threatened.
     
  4. AboveAlpha

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    Wga...everything I discuss can be found on the net.

    You think I would be so stupid as to discuss classified info?

    AboveAlpha
     
  5. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Uhh...WHY would the military have interest in these theories? They already have thermonuclear bombs which could destroy the whole world and all life on Earth, what further military application of quantum mechanics, especially these more abstruse cosmological speculations, could there be?
     
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    We have been developing Micro Fusion Generators since SDI was introduced.

    We also have so recovered tech. that we have been in possessing of since the late 40's that is so advanced we are just NOW beginning to understand...barely.

    AboveAlpha
     
  7. wgabrie

    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    No, I don't think you're stupid like that.

    But I might be that stupid.... Okay, fine. I'll level with you...

    One day, when I went into work, I had some alien guests who wanted to meet with me. No one knew who they were or what they were up to.

    So they took me into a room and shut the door. And they began to measure me and take a reading of my knee.

    I learned that they intended to use me, and perhaps others, to fight for them. Apparently they had about 6 months of staying power and they intended to use Humans in their fight.

    They were going to declare their independence because they felt like they weren't being treated right. And they were going to give us humans technology to help us fight in their war.

    I wasn't hearing any of this and after digging into details about what kind of people they were fighting, I told them the best course of action was surrender.

    They left, then another day they came back and met me again. They said that it had worked, and now the others were looking into their treatment. But they said they might still fight if they didn't think the outcome of that was fair.

    They also told me if the surrender hadn't worked they would have come back and killed me, slowly...
     
  8. AboveAlpha

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    Wga...I know a bit about the reality of E.T...just a BIT.

    This does not jive with what I know.

    So the question you should ask yourself is was this real or not?

    AboveAlpha...a friend who is concerned.
     
  9. wgabrie

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    Well, as I have stated before, this is one of my pre-amnesia memories. I only remembered bits and pieces. And as such I can never be sure if what happened was real, or a dream, or a delusion.
     
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    THEN TREAT IT AS SUCH!!!

    You don't even fit the profile of who they would be interested in and they certainly would not do what you are talking about.

    They are fully capable of effecting short term memory loss.

    The fact you post about this in great detail tells me it most likely...98.5%....did not happen.

    AboveAlpha
     
  11. wgabrie

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    They had no need to wipe my memory. I wasn't going anywhere. At that point in time it was my job to be expendable. An alien punching bag.

    Now yes in some of my encounters with other groups, from when I was a child, certain types of aliens wiped my memory. But at least once I started to remember it again as they left (because the departure was similar to the dream I had while they were working on me, and the memories came flooding back).

    And there were other encounters where they didn't even bother to wipe my memory. In fact once one group even made sure I remembered everything.
     
  12. wgabrie

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    Okay let me explain something so that you don't think I'm flying off the handle.

    When I was a kid, I wasn't the only kid in the neighborhood who saw UFOs. When I talked to other kids, my relatives since this was all of us lumped together in a giant compound that was my grandparent's (on my dad's side) property, and all of my aunts and uncles had greenhouses there. And all of us kids would run around and play together.

    Once I came out from a UFO and I found a bunch of my cousins hiding out there in the bushes. And I told them it was okay to come out now.

    Why, another time, there was even the blood stain in the driveway from when a group of aliens had split me up into 5 people, and then when the experiments were over they killed them all except one, this version of me.

    This caused some amount of panic among everyone when one of my Uncles found the blood. I calmed them down and said it was my blood, that something had hit me in the back, but I was okay now.

    I didn't tell them that it was from another version of myself, who died for me so that I would live... I wasn't even supposed to be the main one who would survive that encounter. I was the one who was supposed to die. I was grateful for this act of pity because I didn't want to die.

    The aliens somehow downloaded the memories from the other me, who died, into myself. I just guess they wanted me to remember.
     
  13. wgabrie

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    It looks like String Theory and Loop Quantum Gravity might be merging into one.

    Of course both theories depend on the Graviton, so, since AboveAlpha says that gravity is a 1D geometric expression, and I'm inclined to believe him, so I guess they're still both wrong.

    String Theory Might Merge With the Other Theory of Everything

     
  14. DennisTate

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    This may sound simplistic............… this ultimately may turn out to be something of a "cosmic joke"......… but I suspect that the ultimate fusing of the force of Gravity into a UFT will....... at least metaphorically........ help us to better understand how women think?????????!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/scien...ionary-theory-divine-feminine-god-mother.html

    Theistic Evolutionary Theory and The Divine Feminine/God The Mother??!!



    The masculine and feminine thought and behaviour patterns may have a basis in theoretical physics.

    http://www.grandunifiedtheory.org.il/gender/g1.htm





     
  15. DennisTate

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    Now that is fascinating!!!!!

    As intelligence increases............. the tendency to have empathy can so often decrease!

    This sure reminds me of the squabble over the past thousand years between my mom's ancestors... the Irish... and dad's ancestors... the English and Scottish!

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-irish-slave-trade-the-forgotten-white-slaves/31076

    The Irish Slave Trade – The Forgotten “White” Slaves

    The Slaves That Time Forgot
     
  16. DennisTate

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    In Wgabrie's defense.......... as far as to their being some reality to what he reports..... it does seem that when a human..... of their own volition volunteers for a difficult role........ the wheels can begin to turn and that human can assist thousands and even millions or even billions of people to avoid what would probably have been a much much worse time line.

    The patriarch Isaac, according to the Book of Jasher, consciously and knowingly volunteered for something pretty big when he was squabbling with his half brother Ishmael...… and I for one do believe that all the nations of the earth benefited as Isaac, Ishmael and Abraham, participated in an event..... that I think altered world events in many positive ways????!

    http://www.ccel.org/a/anonymous/jasher/22.htm

    Also..... according to a near death experiencer who I believe was given insights into the life of the disciples and the hidden teachings of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus...… Yeshua was determined to meet his fate in Jerusalem that particular Passover.... no matter what the consequences were...… which was similar to the offer made by Isaac.

    http://www.thomastwin.com/7 A Thomas samples.html

    Selection from Chapter Two: The Death

     
  17. wgabrie

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    I'm not sure that empathy decreases with an increase of intelligence.

    Now I don't remember the exact details but I seem to remember reading somewhere that the difference between whether a person is empathetic or a psychopath is determined by the size of a structure in a certain region of the brain.

    So, I'm guessing it would be the same with E.T. brains. I hardly think with all the manipulation tools available to them, that they would purposely shrink an area of their brains, associated with good intentions, to improve their intelligence.

    I'm thinking they could keep their empathy in a normal range while also improving their intelligence.
     
  18. PreteenCommunist

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    What even is "intelligence"? Vague term is vague.
     
  19. AboveAlpha

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    There are many forms of intelligence.

    Analytic.
    Empathic.
    Emotional.
    Social.
    Creative.
    Etc.

    You are talking to a MAN who scored so high on an I.Q. Test that I had every branch of the U.S. Military and every Agency talking to me to recruit me....but I.Q. Tests are FLAWED!!!!

    I know....because those who developed the one I took are not as smart as I am.

    I.Q. means NOTHING!!!

    You know what means something in this life?

    Having someone who loves and cares for you.

    You obtain that...then your the smartest person in the world!

    AboveAlpha
     
  20. DennisTate

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    I find it intriguing that you saw that you had been split into five people...... The Sleeping Prophet Edgar Cayce stated that over the past several million years there have been five major Adam plus Eve combinations.

    There is an article....."The Personality of Moshiach" by Rabbi Jacob Immanuel Schochet that you will find interesting!

    A gifted Christian psychic had a visionary dream of heaven in which he met a former homeless man who went to an extremely high position once they died......

    You can see much of that story in post #67 here......
    http://www.politicalforum.com/religion-philosophy/390023-message-adam-all-mankind-rick-joyner-7.html
    ...... my point is that somebody during their lifetime may be accomplishing far far far far far far more with what is going on in their heads and hearts and minds...... than anybody around them who sees them might tend to imagine!
    .....

    In The Book of Adam and Eve the Patriarch Adam dies three times.... .and is resurrected twice..... here is one of them....

    Chapter 69
    Twelfth apparition of Satan to Adam and Eve, while Adam was praying over the offering on the altar; when Satan beat him.

    http://www.earth-history.com/Pseudepigrapha/FB-Eden/adam-eve-1.htm

     
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    AboveAlpha.... a few days ago you asked me what I had done wrong that I needed to apologize to you for?

    Well..... there are two major errors or possible errors that I have made......... or am about to make?!

    For one...... post #16 over here in this other thread where I publicly quote a prophecy for you Sir........ indicates that I............ have psychologically profiled you significantly in error!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/canad...ve-decided-leave-canadas-liberal-party-2.html
    Mr. Sean Fraser, I have decided to leave Canada's Liberal Party.
    ...............
    For months now........ when you elaborated on how skeptical you really were....... I honestly thought that you were acting!

    I thought that you actually were far less skeptical than your writings indicated........... I thought that there were so many people watching and monitoring your posts...... that you were acting overly skeptical due to the pressure on you to do things a certain way here. Judging by what Sandra was shown for you.......... I was wrong.......... you were not acting....... you truly are every bit as skeptical as you claim to be!

    I believed that your intentions were excellent..... I thought that you had valid and serious reasons for acting overly skeptical........... but.......... even though she has probably only read less than ten messages by you.......... whereas I have read hundreds if not thousands......... Sandra was given a much more accurate message for you than I could have given you!!!!!!!!!

    Secondly...... I have to nominate both you...... as well as Mr. Dannion Brinkley for a new position that I feel must be created in the next presidential administration but frankly......... if President Obama were to take my suggestion seriously and set this in motion over the coming months....... this could help to greatly boost his positive rating in the mind of at least ten percent of Americans?????!

    A possible title for that position could be....."Artistic Director of America's NSA - CIA?"

    I truly believe that every single company in America............ has artistic value that may well be far far far far far beyond the appraised value that experts from Wall Street could possibly put on those companies.

    For example.... Monsanto...... although I feel that this massive company is making some serious errors that are putting America and Canada on a collision course with much of the free world......... as well as with Russia, the Communist nations and the Islamic world........ the actual assets of this company .... in my opinion...... have nearly INFINITE VALUE....... because Monsanto owns so many types of seeds..... that the survival of life on earth depends to a significant degree on what this company will do in the near future????!

    I wasn't joking at all..... when I stated that perhaps a Utah State Dollar could play a huge role in insuring....... backing up...... and protecting the value of the USA dollar from the probable back lash........ against the Dollar that is almost certainly being generated by past decisions by Monstanto...... for example "terminator seed technology!"
     
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    Dennis I didn't see 5 people in the same place. The aliens told me they had made 5 versions of me. And I remember some of their thoughts...

    Here is the order I remember them in (the aliens told me this was not the order it happened in)

    Number 1: status: dead.
    I was given a tour of their place. When we came to the tubes, that they can put living things inside to hold them for research, I asked to go inside one and they said they would put me inside for a few minutes. They filled it with fluid and had me breath it. It was warm and very nice. Then they injected me with something to make me sleep. But then I guess they forgot I was in there and they covered it up and lifted it into a dark place for storage. I drowned. Oh well!!! But it was an easy death... I didn't suffer much.

    Number 2: status: unknown.
    I was kept in a fluid filled tube. I peed in the tank causing the aliens to have to drain the fluid and refill it.

    Number 3: status: unknown.
    I was kept in a tank, like above, and I was stuck with needles.

    Number 4: status: dead.
    I was kept in the fluid filled tank for about half an hour. I was then taken out and interviewed about what I remembered. I died to save the final version of me.

    Number 5: status: lived.
    I was sent home to play with my toys. Despite the fact that I was sent home, I was actually going to be killed. But then Number 4 died for me instead and the aliens transferred the memories of Number 4 to me. And as such I remembered about the other versions of me as well.

    Now what's interesting is that after I died (Number 1) as my mind was letting go of my body I found myself in a dark place. And my mind began to stretch out, expanding in all directions, looking for something, anything, out in the darkness. And out in the darkness I saw that I was thinking other thoughts.

    And I began examining these other thoughts. And as I watched and felt them, that's how I partially knew what happened to Numbers 2 and 3. But I was only able to examine them to a point. Time was running in these other thoughts and I ran out of time. As Number 4 was being taken out of the tank I decided to focus all of my attention there.

    The aliens were shocked that I was able to remember what happened to different versions of myself. They didn't even believe me that Number 1 had died. They shouted that that hadn't happened to me. But then they checked and found out that I was telling the truth.
     
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    Near death experiencer Christian Andreason reported that he viewed Dr. Albert Einstein working with an array of something like computers..... but much more advanced than anything that we have so far.

    If what Christian saw was in some sense "real" then we have good reason to suspect that devices and experiments somewhat like medical equipment have also been used by the many types of aliens and/ or angels and/or Elohim that are guiding this earth from the vantage point of a higher invisible dimension.

    Notice post #7 here to read some of what Christian was shown about what Dr. Einstein was doing in his afterlife.......

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...amic-religions-lucifer-iblis-bowing-adam.html
    Pantheism/Polytheism vs Abrahamic Religions and Lucifer/ Iblis bowing to Adam????!!!
     
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    But........ they may well have more influence in some form over world events than we may tend to imagine...... Here I am doing something that I may owe you an apology for...... but it is the truth as best as I can explain it at this time..... .At least this time I felt free to share the potential burden with two nominees............

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=436824&page=29&p=1065759260#post1065759260

    ...................

    Another thing that I owe you an apology for is that I had a very dogmatic.... .simplistic view of cloning..... as wrong........ but a NDE account that I read a month or two ago has made me realize that it may not be cloning itself that is wrong..... but motivation...... and lack of inspiration..... in the way that cloning is actually done!

    I thought that you were seriously in error to have so much faith in science................ This particular NDE made me realize that you may well be closer to the truth on this than I was....... until recently?????????!

    https://angelicview.wordpress.com/2015/09/06/commanded-by-angels-to-preserve-the-earths-canopy/

    Commanded by Angels to Preserve the Earth’s Canopy
     
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    Dennis, I forgot to mention that when Number 4 died I went back to the dark place, but that time I saw there were thoughts coming from their computers.

    And I got sucked into it. Where I was staring intently at an alien symbol. Then the symbol changed and a gate opened. I went through it and I ended up in Number 5's mind.
     

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