Off the Chart Universal and Multiversal Models.

Dennis???

I am TRYING....VERY HARD....to retire!!!

I have done my bit for Honor and Country.

All I really want to do is drink a few beers and have some fun!!!

AboveAlpha

 

Let me explain how RIDICULOUS it is for anyone to think that any E.T. Race would become a problem for the people of Earth to any extend we would have the need or ability to resist them.


They could....EASILY.....launch a BIO-WEAPON into our atmosphere from orbit which would kill every Human or any life form they wanted dead and there would be NOTHING we could do about it!!

Obviously we are still here and if anything so of the classified things they have done if anything we just way's for them to PROVE A POINT!!!

But for those people too limited in intellect and scope to believe and understand that Human Beings are NOT the only Space Faring Race in this Galaxy, Universe or even several Parsecs of space......well such people...I really feel sorry for.

It's one thing to know the math and know the probability calculations that definitively show us we cannot be the only existing intelligent race....and it's another thing altogether when you ACTUALLY FIND THIS OUT TO BE A FACT!!

I am the most mentally and physically strong person I know and when because of a JOB I had a NEED TO KNOW...I was informed of certain realities...and in my mind I always told myself I could handle this information....well thinking about such a thing and KNOWING are two different things altogether

I guess my point is....if they wanted us gone...we would be GONE!!!

The fact we are still here shows us we have very little to worry about.

AboveAlpha.

 

Well, no biological weapon could kill all of humanity, there will always be a few (thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands) people that will have a natural immunity.... There are many people that are immune from AIDS for example, and other diseases to boot...

As a matter of fact, I'm sure every human on this planet is naturally immune from one disease or another...

 

Listen....I am talking about an Alien Race that is probably 10,000 to 500,000 years in technological advancement of us designing and genetically engineering a Weaponsized Biological Weapon!!!

They could do something as simple as drop from orbit Bio-Weapons that would make it impossible for Living Cells to split via mitosis.

They could do this where after a period of time this Virus would die out and we would all be gone way before that!!

Let's say 10,000 people were under a U.S. Government Program that exists sent deep underground with the seeds of every plant on Earth and with Frozen Animal Embryos.....and these people were 2 miles under solid granite.

You think an alien race capable of Interstellar Travel would not be capable of delivering a Bio-Weapon into this deep underground facility?

You think and Advanced Alien Race if they wanted to would not be able to locate every single life form on or under the planet?

They could wipe us out easily!!!

But they have no reason to and because they have not.....most likely they never will.

AboveAlpha

 

Well, I think it is very probable that in some areas we would be more advanced than aliens, and they would be more advanced than us (obviously) in others...

As far as diseases, like I said - there will always be humans immune from something - anything that will be thrown at us....

When there is 7.8 billion people in the world there really is no way to exterminate us all with disease...

 

Think about this.

A Bio-weapon using a Cross Species Genetically Engineered Virus.

No human would have any ability of immunity.

Or they could just release a TOXIN that has a short half life.

We would have no chance.

AboveAlpha

 

It wouldn't work....

Besides, there is a good chance they carry diseases most of us aren't immune to and we carry lots of diseases they're not immune to, which of course is one of the reasons why aliens haven't landed and said hi or have limited contact with humans...

For all I know they're abducting people for antibodies so they can come to Earth and wipe us out, or just say hi...

Ironically I'm listening to Coast to Coast and they're discussing this vary same topic.... lol

 

My point is any alien race that is capable of viable interstellar travel has developed and understands a UFT....Unified Field Theory....which means they have the ability to convert energy into matter and back again.

Which means there is not a single thing we have that they cannot easily make for themselves upon any scale.

They are only interested in study, science and discovery.

AboveAlpha

 

Yea, well they would have to bend space and time to get here which I agree with, however I have no idea what that has to do with bio-warfare, nor do I really understand why you believe that would be the solution they would use to end the human race...

 

A Bio-Weapon is the best option to get rid of Human's but leave all other life forms alive.

AboveAlpha

 

Why would they want to leave all other animals alive? furthermore who says humans cant get other creatures sick when they can get us sick?

If aliens are so smart why don't they just vaporize us? one would think they have better weapons than biological weapons...

If they're creative enough, intelligent enough to bend space and time then they certainly have better ideas to kill humans than biological weapons.

 

As to my point.....they don't want to kill us!!!

They just want to study and discover.

AboveAlpha

 

Agreed.

However our government knows information they're not sharing and keeping to themselves about the phenomena of ET's and UFO's......

 

Any chance they can modify mitochondria, the cell power plants, to get their power from a warp bubble?

We wouldn't have to breathe or need the mechanism to get fat ever again!!!

 

Huh?

AboveAlpha

 

Oh, I was talking about the E.T. and how they love to poke around with everything.

And then I remembered one of my encounters where I learned that those specific E.T. don't need to breath.

And I remembered from my biology class, in college, about how every cell has these particular parts called Mitochondria. Mitochondria take oxygen or fat and convert it into ATP, a unit of energy used by cells.

And I realized that if we could ever modify the Mitochondria to accept another form of input, say a warp bubble, then our cells wouldn't need to store fat to power cells in low oxygen conditions, and we wouldn't need oxygen if there were another efficient form of conversion from a base source to releasing a lot of ATP for power.

Okay, I'm just dreaming. I don't have the background to consider whether a warp bubble would be a viable source for ATP production. But if using micro-warp bubbles to power living cells could be possible it would be a revolution as far as life is concerned.

 

OK....Wga....I am sorry but this makes no sense.

A Warp Bubble is basically Space-Time Curvature surrounding any amount of Mass....and this mass and the Higgs-Bosons that are some of the Quantum Particle/Wave Forms that comprise the Hadrons....ie...Nucleons known as Protons and Neutrons along with other Quanta such as Quarks be they the 2 UP Quarks and 1 Down Quarks....UUD....that along with the Gluons that Hold the Quarks together and Form a Proton as well as the UDD Quarks.....1 Up Quark and 2 Down Quarks that along with Gluons comprise a Neutron.....As the other Quanta such as the Higgs-Boson and it's generated HIGGS FIELD which is responsible FOR ALLOWING ALL HADRONS TO HAVE MASS.....and these Hadrons are Protons, Neutrons and Pions.

A Hadron is any particle that is made from Quarks, Antiquaks and Gluons.


A neutron is basically the same as a proton except that it has one up quark and two down quarks in addition to its large number of gluons and of quark-antiquark pairs. Unlike a proton, which has charge +1 (in fact it defines what it means to have charge +1), the neutron is electrically neutral — has charge 0 — hence its name

A Pion-plus, of charge +1, differs from a proton in that it has an up quark and a down anti-quark in addition to its large number of gluons and of quark-antiquark pairs.

A Kaon-plus is like a pion-plus except that it has an up quark and a strange anti-quark (in addition to its… ok, ok.)

Get the point? Each hadron has large number of gluons and of quark-antiquark pairs, plus something else. The something else may include........

Three quarks of various types
Three anti-quarks of various types
A quark and an antquark, possibly of different types
Extra energy, distributed among the many quarks, anti-quarks and gluons.


ANYWAYS....the Higgs Field that is generated by the Higgs-Boson is responsible for allowing HADRONS TO OBTAIN MASS!!!

This MASS along with any DARK MATTER FILAMENTS existing throughout the Universe and these larger Dark Matter Filaments are where Galaxies and Galactic Clusters to lay upon.

Dark Matter even adds additional mass to Hadrons but as this is such a tiny amount per particle it is really a tiny amount extra of Mass.

BUT.....when looking at this upon a MARO-UNIVERSAL LEVEL....it is obvious that without the additional existing Dark Matter that the velocities of spin of Spiral Galaxies like our own Milky Way is too fast as without the additional Dark Matter existing many entire SOLAR SYSTEMS located upon the outer arms of a Spiral Galaxy would just BE FLUNG INTO DEEP INTERSTELLAR SPACE!!!

Why don't they?

Because our Galaxy as well as all other's have purposely positioned themselves upon large Dark Matter Filaments throughout the Universe as if hey were not.....the total amount of visible and tangible mass in Spiral Galaxies like our own Spinning Spiral Galaxy the Milky Way....IS NOT ENOUGH TANGIBLE MATTER TO HOLD THE OUTER STARS located upon the outer rim spiral arms could not travel at their current orbital velocity without being aflug out into deep interstellar Space!

So a WARP BUBBLE is very much he same thing hat is the Space-Time Curvature caused by mass and dark matter and surrounds celestial objects as well as individual particles!!

Our Earth's mass has generates such a bubble which is Gravity!!

NOW.....artificially generating a Warp Bubble around any variety of living cells would only either make them IMPLODE or perhaps make hem heaver or perhaps even TAKE THEM RIGHT OUT OF OUR SPACE-TIME REALITY!!!

I see no way a Living Cell could use Space-Time Curvature o feed them or power them so....Huh?

AboveAlpha

 

Okay, well first I didn't understand what a Warp Bubble was. I just assumed it was a field that bent and stretched the field around it to produce a perpetual turbulence or motion.

Second, the dark matter, as I have perceived it are these huge filaments that span light years across. And they are in a belt around the galactic plane. And our solar system is traveling up and down in a see-saw motion as it keeps getting pulled back towards the plane, passing through it, and then it starts getting pulled back in the other direction as it's attracted to the dark matter belt, that lies in the plane of our galaxy.

Third, considering the possible effects you have listed, we should definitely play with warp bubbles and living cells. Hey E.T. can't have all the fun, can they???

 

There are massive Dark Matter Filaments and then there are untold trillions upon trillions upon trillions of Dark Matter filaments of all sizes.

I am tired today.

I helped cut a 90 foot tall tree down to make sure it didn't hit a few things and I am good at doing this but because the tree was damaged and had damaged a fence my Insurance Company paid for and hired a crew.
When I am around people doing a JOB who are far less capable of me I get kind of.....twitchy and I helped them take it down and it dropped EXACTLY where I told them it would if it was cut and braced the right way.

This guy....who was not the owner of this Tree Cutting Company but who had a huge GUT and smelled of stale beer and either Gin or Vodka was talking to me like I was some rich....never did a hard day's work in my life...College Boy!

I straightened his ass out but good!!

Guy was actually trying to INTIMIDATE ME!!!

Bad move on his part!!

The girls fed me and I did my run and today my run sucked!!

Got home....the girls made me FLAN!!!! Which I love!!!

I sent them home and I think they were dissapointed.

So now I feel bad and I am going to send both of them 2 dozen roses....12 red....12 white....with Blue Irises and greens and no baby's breath but both White and Purple Wax Flower.....and one arrangement will be sent in a Cobalt Blue vase.....and the other in a Ruby vase.

The cards will both say...I am sorry. Come out and play tonight.

I will send them to their work places and each with a big white teddy bear with a red bow that when you squeeze it the bear sings.....Love me Tender.

I think that should do the trick.

AboveAlpha

 

You know I look at men like you with admiration.

I like how you know what to do and you know enough to make sure things get done the right way and not to leave these teams to do a hackneyed job of just doing things over anyway they want as long as it somehow, finally, gets done.

Me? I'm not even an amateur level skill at so many things.


Oh, and as far as you and the girls, I see you're doing an over the top presentation to mend hurt feelings.

I see you take no chances as far as your friends are concerned...

But do you ever feel like people won't love you if you don't go all out? Like your relationships to others are fragile things? And, that they can't withstand a minor slight?

 

Speaking of warps in space, I found there are mysterious invisible strands or noodles we just found about 3000 light years out from us...

Massive invisible 'noodles' detected in our galaxy. What are they?
http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/sp...ble-noodles-detected-our-galaxy-what-are-they

 

Yet we have atomic bombs..

 

I quoted this over to post #26 in this other discussion to illustrate to a skeptic that this material simply flows out of you which....... indicates that you really know your stuff on this topic.

http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...ophical-implications-multiverse-theory-3.html
The Philosophical implications of Multiverse Theory?
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I am curious..... does the term "dark matter" imply that it is at a lower level of energy than matter that is visible?

I am thinking that "dark matter" would often actually be operating at a much higher energetic level than pretty much anything here in four dimensional space - time...... even the visible matter within active stars.

 

Anytime I am involved the slight is never taken....slightly.

AboveAlpha

 

For the record......... I could probably have put that tree pretty close to where you put it.... I worked at forestry for over twenty years and I was very accurate at putting trees where I wanted them.

Most people that I worked with were scratching their heads over how I would go in and take down the smaller trees first...... and leave the largest hardwood or pine trees until last. I often would not cut them until after the forwarder - porter went through and took the other wood out. I did this because I was lazy and didn't want to pile any more brush than necessary.

It was amazing how many other workers would make a bee line to the largest trees to get them down first.... which had some advantages if they did it right but...... if an error was made it created a great deal of extra work that I wished to avoid if at all possible. I usually produced in the top ten percent of the workers with any forestry crew. ..... but I often did not go to work until around 10 am - noon because I wanted the mornings for reading and such..... and then I would work until dark. Pretty much the opposite of the other workers.