Off the Chart Universal and Multiversal Models.

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  1. wgabrie

    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    That's because you're being held to a high standard of expectations.
     
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    You got that right!!

    But I don't disappoint do I?

    Next trick....Putin dumps Assad.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Into boiling oil or Jello?
     
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    I kept telling these guy's to be careful because I knew that Oak was old and probably was partially hollow...and it was!!

    Si I made them TOP the tree...and topping an oak id difficult as you have to top it upon a multitide of branches not just 3/4th of the way up.

    If I did not force them to do this the tree would have collapsed down upon itself from the weight and someone could have gotten killed when the trunk around the hollow area would have shattered open.

    AboveAlpha

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    LOL!!!

    WORSE.....INTO RUSSIA!!! LOL!!!!

    Putin will grant Assad amnesty in Russia and asylum.

    AboveAlpha
     
  6. wgabrie

    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    I know! That makes me happy.

    I'm not one of those people who thinks that everything needs to be avenged.

    A fast resolution, even one where the bad guy retires to a compound far away, is for me the best option.
     
  7. AboveAlpha

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    Better for the Syrian's.

    AboveAlpha
     
  8. wgabrie

    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    Well yeah.

    It's not like we care one way or the other about Assad here in the USA> At least I don't.

    Actually, I'm still waiting to see whether Syria becomes a Sharia state even after the rebel groups get cleaned up in the post Assad mop-up operations.

    (Or, no. Back to Assad. Actually I'm tired of the Despots getting killed after the uprisings like the Arab spring. As far as I'm concerned we could have taken in Saddam and Qaddafi. I would rather that the "they never hurt anyone again" take the form of them gardening in their future compound far away from the people they might hurt. Where the dictator can be safe also, and be watched.)
     
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    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    I just read a physics news article today.

    Physicists investigate the structure of time, with implications for quantum mechanics and philosophy
    One group is throwing out the idea that time is discrete, that means that instead of being continuous it is divided up into distinct time periods like steps, where one value of time occupies a single block value. Then the next unit of time comes next, it jumps to the next value. As an integer value, one unit after another...

    Discrete time and continuous time
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    And they argue that the separation between these time segments, or crystals, is perhaps much larger than the planck length. The smallest possible length in Quantum physics. And they've suggested an experimental way to determine whether this is the case or not.

    What do you think?
     
  10. AboveAlpha

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    Funny....Einstein and his Physicist Buddies were arguing whether or not Time existed.

    One of Einstein's buddies brought up one of Zeno's paradoxes which are a set of philosophical problems generally thought to have been devised by Greek philosopher Zeno of Elea (ca. 490–430 BC) to support Parmenides's doctrine that contrary to the evidence of one's senses, the belief in plurality and change is mistaken, and in particular that motion is nothing but an illusion. It is usually assumed, based on Plato's Parmenides (128a–d), that Zeno took on the project of creating these paradoxes because other philosophers had created paradoxes against Parmenides's view. Thus Plato has Zeno say the purpose of the paradoxes "is to show that their hypothesis that existences are many, if properly followed up, leads to still more absurd results than the hypothesis that they are one." (Parmenides 128d). Plato has Socrates claim that Zeno and Parmenides were essentially arguing exactly the same point (Parmenides 128a–b).

    Anyway's....one of the arguments that Time did not exist was if two people were say.....1000 feet apart....and each person would take their turn moving HALF THE DISTANCE to the other person.....so from 1000 feet it would become 500 feet then 250 feet then 125 feet then 6.25 feet then 3.125 feet then 1.5625 feet...then 0.78125 feet then 0.390625......and it would continue on forever so even if a person or both people kept moving half the distance between them per minute or per second or per 1/10th of second.....Mathematically it would not matter because they would ALWAYS be half of the remaining distance between them thus they argued TIME DID NOT EXIST!


    WELL....they were CLOSE....but not quite right.

    Time may not exist....and Space may not exist.....BUT SPACE-TIME DEFINITELY EXISTS!!!

    THIS is where their argument falls apart.

    You can't have Space without Matter and Energy which are really the SAME THING....to exist within it and GENERATE IT!!!!

    So this is why many people get so confused when I and others try to explain to them that before the advent of the White Hole BIG BANG EJECTION of Quantum Particle/Wave Forms that developed and continues to develop Space-Time in this Universe......THERE DID NOT EXIST SPACE NOR TIME NOR SPACE-TIME...NOR DID DISTANCE EXIST!!!!

    Some people think that SPACE.....is what would exist in it;s 10-D Plus physical existence or rather Space-Time would exist if NOTHING existed in our Universal Reality.

    But the facts are.....neither SPACE...nor TIME....nor SPACE-TIME would exist!!!

    There would be NO DISTANCE......NO TIME......NO PSYCHICAL/NATURAL LAWS!!

    Our Divergent Universal State of Reality simply would not exist.....but others would....and INFINITE NUMBER OF OTHERS WOULD!!!


    Just not OURS!!

    Quantum Mechanics helps us to understand such things when we talk about how OBSERVATION COLLAPSES WAVE FUNCTION AND LOCKS IN VALUE!! Prior to any Quanta....say an Electron or Proton in this case....is OBSERVED.....it exists in a state of QUANTUM SUPERPOSITION or QUANTUM FLUX.

    Once OBSERVED....that Quanta is LOCKED IN TO OUR UNIVERSAL REALITY!!!

    IT HAS A LOCKED IN VALUE !!!!

    IT'S WAVE FUNCTION COLLAPSES as prior to this that Quanta existed as PART OF EVERY AND ALL EXISTING DIVERGENT UNIVERSAL STATES OF REALITY that existed within our Baseline Reality Universal Grouping.

    But after being OBSERVED.....it now only exists as a part of OUR SINGLE DIVERGENT UNIVERSAL REALITY!!!

    Until it's energy is transferred, transformed or trans-mutated....and after that.....it all up for grabs again!! LOL!!!

    AboveAlpha
     
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    I didn't know that energy could change forms and go from a collapsed state to a superposition once again.
     
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    Well I think it has to.

    Matter to Energy.....Observation.....state change...do over.

    AboveAlpha
     
  13. DennisTate

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    Wow!!!!!!!

    I volunteered for something kind of scary back in 1990........ and I discussed this with Sanhedrin Rabbi Yeshayahu Hollander:

    http://tate4centralnova.yuku.com/topic/383/My-correspondence-with-Rabbi#.VrC1TMf8iOx
    ....... That was back in 2010......... time has gone on..... and i feel even closer to being able to do something concrete with this soon.....

    https://www.facebook.com/notes/dann...onald-trump-volunteerism-hour/650392121762355
    A Dannion Brinkley or a DONALD TRUMP, "Volunteerism Hour?"

    ..................

    The fact that some 96% of Muslims watching Al Jezeera TV responded in a certain way to a poll question....... has me wondering if I should ask you Sir...... to pass on a possible offer to President Assaad of Syria through some of his people?

    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...ghts-96-arabs-want-genocide-all-alawites.html
    Why Assad Fights - 96% Arabs Want Genocide Of All Alawites

    .......................

    AboveAlpha..... I am one of the only Christians that I know of who could actually state a somewhat modified version of the Shahadah....(pardon my spelling)!

    And of course I would prefer to work with a group of Muslims who are in a sufficiently desperate situation to consider a radical action that could save their lives.... and the lives of their kids and grandchildren!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...d-son-good-prophet-prophet-muhammad-pbuh.html

    I believe Abraham said "good son and good Prophet" to The Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)
    If more Christian Mystics and even some Jewish Mystics will begin to discuss the theory that the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was in many ways a Prophet Like Unto Moses as well as perhaps King David or Elijah or the Patriarch Abraham reincarnated........ then peace will soon break out in the Middle East!!!!!!!!!


    3. The Prophet Muhammad's Journey to Heaven

    http://www.near-death.com/muslim.html



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    AboveAlpha........ take a look at your right side..... do you personally have a mole or birthmark that might correspond with a statement from the ancient Book of Adam and Eve that was preserved into our time period only in Arabic?

    I do!

    Notice post #28........ on this page...... and of course I am referring to the Dr. Ian Stevenson research!
    http://www.politicalforum.com/religion-philosophy/390023-message-adam-all-mankind-rick-joyner-3.html


    ...................

    I know that this is a long shot....... but if this could be of any use to you Sir...... please feel free to link this to anybody you know who might be able to use this?
     
  14. cassfox

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    I actually have a good grasp of Quantum Mechanics and Thermal Dynamics through my training as a Marriage and Family Therapist. We use Systems Theory and other methods to explain and work with mental health clients, believe it or not. Although, most therapists are not intelligent enough to understand what they are using, and just how powerful the treatment can be.

    It's not difficult for me to believe that divergence can come from a single baseline if the baseline group has enough segments from the start. Or, if the baseline morphs during the process of pairing. If the pairing comes simply from the original baseline, then there must be an explanation which is internal. It's like DNA. A couple of particles and be combined into a few strands, and voila; every person who has or will ever live will have unique DNA. It's mind-blowing.

    Since we live because of chemical and electrical energy, we are quantum beings. I also experienced this as a professional massage therapist. Touching another person, or even being near another person creates an exchange of energy more powerful that we realize. Everything we feel and sense (heat, cold, emotions) is relayed and distributed through chemical or electrical energy. Can atoms "behave" without our control? Can we control atoms? Yes on both accounts. As our government has discovered, but bodyworkers and ancient physicians have known for hundreds of years, our cells have memory. They pass their memories onto their children as much as we pass our memories onto our children. From this process we create a cycle of energetic behavior. Think about it...... Thus, in your original statement, the possibilities of behavior and combinations are endless.

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    Your fingers and hands never actually touch the person you are massaging....did you know this?

    The Atoms which make up your hands and body and the Atoms which make up the other persons body have electron orbital fields surrounding their atomic nucleus's.

    The Electron Orbital Fields of the persons body you massage are Negatively Charged thus repel the electron orbital fields of your hands and body.

    However the Negative Charge Electron Field Interference causes an increase in the vibratory state of the Atoms and this kinetic energy transfer translates into HEAT.

    Lack of this vibratory state equals COLD.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    What I think you are describing is friction. Skin does touch skin, but there are barriers such as oils in the skin, etc. During massage there is always a heat transfer due to energy and friction. A cold massage is not possible unless ice is used to interfere with the kinetic energy. So, no touch = a cold massage....... in most instances.

     
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    I have a bullet wound.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Interesting!

    What do you think of the idea that the masculine and feminine thought and behaviour patterns may have a basis in the behaviour of the most fundamental forms of energy?


    http://www.grandunifiedtheory.org.il/gender/g1.htm

     
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    This is an interesting concept Dennis Tate. I don't know that scientists have actually studied the possibility of gender differences in energy systems. If I employ deductive reasoning based upon science and knowledge, I would guess that there are some differences. I would also guess that the differences may be in specific arenas rather that looking totally different altogether. By that I mean that boys aren't blue and girls aren't pink. I would expect that the differences will be in areas such as empathy, aggression, etc. A good hypothesis could be developed from your comment....

     
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    Yes.... and near death experiencer Christian Andreason got the impression that The Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost of the Trinity....... was probably G-d the Mother!?

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...-could-holy-spirit-holy-ghost-god-mother.html
    Could the Holy Spirit - Holy Ghost = God the Mother?

    .....http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/
     
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    You don't understand.

    When your finder tips hit a key on your computer keyboard or whatever device used....they NEVER PHYSICALLY COME IN CONTACT WITH EACH OTHER.

    Never.

    The electron orbital fields repel each other thus no physical contact.

    You cannot physically TOUCH skin or any matter.

    But you an disrupt the electron orbital fields.

    This causes a vibration state of the atom to increase which causes friction and kinetic energy transfer.

    But even the skin oils that get on your hand from a person.....are suspended away from the atoms that comprise your hand.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    I do understand you perfectly. I just don't agree totally, although I do agree with your logic. I do believe that our senses then detect energy fields and if I was writing Quantum Physics for Dummies I'd liken this to some Star Trek concepts. It's heavy stuff! You just don't know me well enough yet to understand where I am coming from which may be detrimental.

     
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    Oh....I think I might know where your coming from well enough.

    Holistic Healing.

    Body to Body energy transfer to promote healing and a sense of well being.

    Thing is.....that is a mentally generated placebo.

    Quantum Physics just is.....and there is much we don't understand about it....but we know enough to develop Practical Applications using it.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Aha..... yes... now I think I can better understand why you didn't like some of Dr. Chaim Tejman's theories.



    http://www.grandunifiedtheory.org.il/cancer/treat1.htm
    Possibilities for Utilizing the Principles of Wave Theory for Treating Cancer

    Personally..... I think that his idea is brilliant and...… I think that Norman Cousins..... at least to some degree was tapping into the type of energy that can combat various types of illness.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Cousins

     
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    CassFox..... what do you think of my idea of using documentary, reality, and semi- reality science fiction film projects to give people something around which they can cooperate?


    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=406672&p=1065874978#post1065874978

    A Soldier's Vision Quest (by Longknife).
     

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