Off the Chart Universal and Multiversal Models.

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  1. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

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    You know.....most people POST on FORUMS because they don't have much of a life.

    Funny I should be enjoying Posting because I have too much of one!!! LOL!!!

    I no longer have to wear an eye patch...finally!!!

    My Guy's were calling me....NICK FURY! LOL!!!

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Oh, yay! You're all healing up. How are your eyes adjusting to the light of day?

    So, NICK FURY is it? I was going to go with pirate myself.

    And, how are your arms and legs?
     
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    I was really lucky because #1. The piece of shrapnel could have blinded me instead of just severing the muscle in the corner of one eye.

    #2. I had one HELL of a great American Eye Surgeon!!!

    I was stuck in this HELL HOLE of a Hospital because they didn't want to move me not because I could not be moved but because of a possible attack.

    So they sent me a few good American Doctors.

    I have a Medical Degree and I refused to be put under and insisted I get shot up with Lidocaine and remain conscious.

    The Nurses almost PASSED OUT when they saw me using my own field surgery kit to cut out small pieces of shrapnel in my arms and legs!! LOL!!!

    WRITE THIS DOWN!!!

    Things you absolutely need in Battle for a medical kit.

    #1. SUPER GLUE
    #2. DUCT TAPE
    #3. DENTAL FLOSS
    #4. SEVERAL SIZES AND CURVED SKIN STITCHING NEEDLES.
    #5. SEVERAL SIZES AND TYPES OF HEMOSTATS
    #6. GAUZE
    #7. IODINE FLAT PACKS
    #8. SMALL BOTTLE OF ALCOHOL.
    #9. SMALL BOTTLE OF HYDROGEN PEROXIDE
    #10. EXACTO KNIFE
    #11. 3 ROLLS OF WIRE THIN GUAGE
    #12. SET OF DISPOSABLE SCALPELS WITH REPLACEABLE BLADES
    #13. NAIL CLIPPERS LIGHT AND HEAVY DUTY
    #14. SET OF SURGICAL TWEEZERS INCLUDING ONE TRUSTY SET OF ZIRCONUM ENCRUSTED TWEEZERS
    #15. SURGICAL STEEL WOOL AND WIRE BRUSHES
    #16. BURN KIT
    #17. SYNTH-MORPH INJECTABLES
    #18. ASPIRIN
    #19. STRONG AND COMPACT MAGNET PREFERABLY ONE THAT CAN ALSO BE PLUGGED IN.
    #20. 3 DIFFERENT INTERIOR DIAMETER CLEAR HOSES ALL AT LEAST 8 FEET LONG.
    #21. MAGNIFYING GLASSES OR PREFERABLY BINOCULAR MAGNIFYING GLASSES.
    #22. TURKEY BASTER SYRINGE
    #23. SEVERAL PAIRS OF LATEX GLOVES
    #24. BOX OF CONDOMS...NON-LUBRICATED....NOT RIBBED
    #25. HAMMER
    #26. VARIOUS ANTIBIOTICS
    #27. BOTTLE OF PREDNISONE OR METHYLPREDNISOLONE
    #28. CORTISONE
    #29. ADRENALINE
    #30. CHEMICAL HOT AND COLD PACKS
    #31. BENADRYL
    #32. SURGICAL STAPLER FIELD UNIT.
    #33. ATIVAN
    #34. TYLENOL
    #35. IPECAC
    #36. AMPICILLIN
    #37. RUBBER BANDS
    #38. ZIP TIES
    #39. ASSORTED JOINT BRACES
    #40. ARM SLINGS.
    #50. CHEMICAL CAUTERIZATION PATCHES INCLUDING INSET NOSE CAUTERIZATION
    #51. PLIERS
    #52. INTERNAL ANGLE SNAKING SURGICAL SCOPE....16 INCH MINIMUM.
    #53. DRAMAMINE
    #54. TRANSFUSION KIT.
    #55. VARIOUS PENLIGHT AND OTHER FLASHLIGHTS
    #56. QUININE
    #57. AIR CASTS
    #58. ANTI VENOM OF LOCAL SNAKES AND INSECTS.
    #59. SALT TABLETS
    #60. WATER PURIFICATION TABLETS.
    #61. IVERMECTIN
    #62. FOLDABLE SURGICAL HACK SAW WITH MULTILE BLADES
    #62. SPRING BAND LOADED FLESH GRABS
    #63. SMALL BOTTLE PLASTIC FILLED WITH JACK DANIELS OR ANY GOD SINGLE MALT SCOTCH
    #64. LONG NEEDLE NOSE PLIERS
    #65. CHARGABLE AND HAND CRANKED IF NECESSARY SMALL DRILL.
    #66. CHEMICAL LUMINESCENCE LIGHTS
    #67. TRACHEOTOMY KIT
    #68. TOURNIQUET BANDING KITS
    #69. circa 1943 V.D. INFORMATIONAL FILM DETAILING HOW IF AN AMERICAN, AUSSIE OR BRITISH SOLDIERS PENIS EVEN COMES WITHIN 10 METERS OF STRANGE MIDDLE OF STONE AGE 2015 MIDDLE ASIA P@SSY......THAT SOLDIERS PENIS WILL EXPLODE!!!

    AboveAlpha
     
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  4. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am sure that you have seen this already but have you ever scrolled down through the images of what Dr. Masaru Emoto discovered?

    These images have caused me to ask myself the question ..... is water somehow connected to "energy from quantum vacuum?"

    http://www.masaru-emoto.net/english/emoto.html
     
  5. AboveAlpha

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    I know this post was not directed to me but masaru emoto is talking complete nonsense.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Actually a Swiss scientist had similar results to Dr. Emoto with a somewhat different type of experiment.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Jenny_(cymatics)

    One of Sid Roth's guests quoted Hans Jenny and made the assertion that the patterns that Hans Jenny got looked like the Star of David. You will see the same phenomena in the Dr. Masaru Emoto photographs.

    http://donate.sidroth.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=6301&security=1&news_iv_ctrl=1082

    He is correct that these images look like little Stars of David... but they also look much like snowflakes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6PSA5bYTxs
    Hans Jenny - Cymatics
     
  7. AboveAlpha

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    Dennis....I would NEVER post something to you that was based upon my OPINION unless I said it was my opinion.

    As far as a person being happy or sad or angry or excited...etc.....THERE IS ABSOLUTELY ZERO SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE OF ANY KIND THAT IS VIABLE NOR HAVE ANY EXPERIMENTS BEEN DONE THAT HAVE IN EVEN THE TINIEST WAY SHOWN......WATER....to be reactive or water in some way being effective to such Human Mental or Emotional states.

    Out of respect for your belief in this I did a double check and again.....their data is false and has zero merit.

    If anything in their data and the manner they ran such experiments actually showed or gave some viable evidence that there might be something to their theories......I WOULD TELL YOU AND SUPPORT FURTHER STUDY.

    Unfortunately what they have done is simply MADE UP DATA.....for the sole purpose of making money.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your allcaps are too complicated for a layperson such as myself to even begin to comprehend. I defer fully to your supreme enlightened excellence.
     
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    Yeah....I know I have a CAP LOCK ISSUE! LOL!!!

    If you were to meet me in person I would be comletely contrary to what you would think I would be as although there is no getting away from people noticing my physicality......I would be the guy in the bar or establishment who would be watching, with my back against the strongest.....brick or masonary wall....and facing the door at an approx. angle to one side of about 40 degrees.....most likely to the left side or 320 degrees from the door if the doors dead center was considered 0 or 360 degrees.

    The way I act here with my ego and CAP LOCK ISSUES....is a way to keep me sane.

    If you met me I would be the quiet and polite man who did not talk much but listened intently.

    I guess I use this place....AND BELIEVE ME IT WAS NOT EASY TO BE ALLOWED TO POST ON FORUMS.....considering what I do...and I was RETIRED but I was asked....nicely....to do one last JOB and as I have trained my own replacement and he is a GOOD MAN....and because I think of him as a real BROTHER....I took the JOB because I KNEW there would be problems and sure as HELL there was.

    So....although I KNOW I come off as this increbibly egotistical know it all....which I do have a MASSIVE EGO....because I must as it is necessary for what I do.....and although I do not know everything.....I know a great deal about a very large number of things and issues to the extent I have several members who believe I am two or three or perhaps even more people because it their minds at least no one single person could know so much about so many things in such a wide variety of subjects and fields.

    However...I am just ME...one person.

    And if you met me in person....what I just posted would NOT be something I would talk to you about as I would be the guy very intent of learning everything there was to learn about you and your interests as well I very much enjoy when a person might be able to TEACH ME SOMETHING!!!

    So....I am at least in my own body and mind....several people.

    The guy here.....the guy listening to you while we have a drink.....and the guy who is right now out of the U.S. and because my very good friend....MOTHMAN.....is one of the worlds top 5 Programmers....he was able to set me up on a satellite Internet feed that allows this sat laptop to run from my other networked system.

    That system...and even though I have said this out PUBLICALLY.....is a system designed with a medium level firewall that is by design a firewall a person of relative skill could break through and when they do that THEY ARE TAGGED!!

    From that point on MOTHMAN'S GROUP watches them to see if they might become a FUTURE ASSET....or if they need to be BURNED DOWN.

    They are given ONE CHANCE....and if they impress they might find themselves having a very interesting career.

    If they are just some over curious PAIN IN THE A$$.....they end up working as an AGENCY DATA ENTRY CLERK for the rest of their natural life in some place like NOME...or ICELAND....or even worse....GREENLAND!!!

    But the REALLY FUNNY PART IS......even though I have said what I am posting to you pubblically.....THEY STILL KEEP ON DOING IT!!! LOL!!!

    AboveAlpha

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    Oh...and.....p.s.....It's not easy being me! LOL!!!

    AboveAlpha
     
  10. DennisTate

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    On that note.......... I wish to put something of a challenge to you and your team....... all the way up....... and I mean that ........ all the way up!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...ould-utah-state-dollar-save-usa-dollar-2.html

    .............

    ...........

    ...
    .....

    I betcha you can think of another one of the discussions that I got going that is directly related to this?

    Yup.... it is the one about a message from the Patriarch Adam as delivered through Pastor Rick Joyner!
     
  11. AboveAlpha

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    Dennis.....because I owed a very large favor to a friend who is stationed over there....I was asked years ago to Moderate and Provide Security with my Team for LOW LEVEL MEETINGS that are always held prior to high level Summit Peace Accords.

    My Team was specifically asked for because the groups on all sides understood that not only did they not trust each other to provide security for such low level meetings but they also knew I do not take sides in that conflict other than to condemn anyone attacking the other side without provocation.

    My friend was someone I could not say no to so even though if anyone or if any group or entity had asked me I would have said...NO....my friend knew I would not say no to him.....and doing this still did not make us even as I would still owe him at least 2 more favors as what he did for me and my Team was something that had value beyond expressed words.

    I agreed ONLY if I and I alone had total control of where the meetings would be held and that only my Team could be armed and that these other groups Lower Level Leadership who have Security Forces of their Own...would not be allowed into the building....an UNDERGROUND BUNKER actually.

    I ended up being stuck over there for almost 9 weeks!!!

    The issues were so stupid and so petty...things like arguments over whether Bottled Water would be served at the Higher Level Peace Summit or if it would be WATER FILLED PITCHERS WITH GLASSES!!!

    They even had issues over WHO SAT WHERE!!!

    I have very little patience for this sort of thing and after about 7 weeks had gone by and the first 2 weeks were wasted just forcing the Low Level Negociators to show up and leave their security teams and their LIMO'S.....yeah.....Gaza doesn't even have running water or electricity in some areas PUT THESE GUY'S HAD OVERSIZED LINCOLN LIMO'S.....ARMORED.....and the Israeli's.....UHHH!!!

    THEY WERE JUST AS BAD!!!

    I called my friend after 7 weeks of BULL S#!#.....I called my friend and said...."THAT'S IT!! I'M DONE!! MY GUY'S AND I ARE GOING HOME!!"

    My friend said to me...."Whoah!!! I just got a call from the Palestinian;s saying they appreciate how well you have been handling things and they want you to know that they are going to propose something tomorrow that will bring things close to an end!!"

    I thought my buddy was kidding me but nope...the Palestinian's did compromise on an issue and then so did the Israeli's and my Team and I were home a few weeks after!

    I said....'I WILL NEVER DO THAT AGAIN!!"

    Until my same friend I owe asked me to do it again!!

    This time Hamas and Hezbollah were launching Rockets both Home Made and a few iraaian Made...into Israel....and of course the Freaking Israeli's over reacted as these Home Made Missiles were being lanched into Residential Israeli Neighborhoods so the Israeli's sent in a brace of F-16's loaded with Bombs and BLEW UP A WEAPONS DEPOT killing 14 Palestianian's.

    Since I HAD NO INTENTION OF STAYING THERE FOR TWO MONTHS AGAIN.....I played Hardball.

    Both the Israeli's and the Palestinian's refused to enter the Bunker I chose unless their BODY GUARDS CAME WITH THEM FULLY ARMED!!

    So for 3 days both Parties just stayed in their Limo's surrounded by their Security People while me and the team played cards.

    On the 4th day as BOTH the Palestinain's and Israeli's were under intense pressure from the U.S. to at the very least get the rules set up for the High Level Peace Summit squared away.....at the same time one envoy from each group....and we are not stuipid as WE KNOW the Palestinian Negociation Team consisted of two members of Fatah....one member of Hamas....one member of Hezbollah.....and even one SOB member of Assad's Secret service and a member of the Iranaian Qud's Force...I group my Team and I HATE WITH A PASHION!!!

    The Israeli's......JUST AS BAD......members of the Israeli IDF, Mossad, their Negociator....and a few other....men like me....just with not as much experience.

    They both got out of their A/C Limo's.....and started walking toward the Bunker with two each....FULLY ARMED MEMBERS OF THEIR SECURITY FORCES!!!

    I had several of my Team set up Digital Video EVERYWHERE along with lots of other toys as well as two Barrett .50 Caliber M82's Sniper Rifles with Computerized Digital Telescopic Camera Scopes with Zoom on Quadrapods with screens inside the Bunker so we could see what they saw.

    I had one of my men fluent in everything from Arabic, Urdu, Farsi...etc....yell out to both of them to stop right there......put their weapons down slowly....and to place their hands up in the air and to spread their legs and then get on their knees.

    BOTH SIDES REFUSED!!! AND THEY KEPT WALKING TOWARD US!!!

    orse the other security teams in the other cars from both sides started setting up their weapons so I called in for each of my Sniper teams to target JUST each Limo's ONE TIRE THAT WHEN IT GOT HIT BY A .50 Caiber Round from the Barrett M82.....it wouldn't kill anyone.

    My Team did just that and for those who don't know....as I just didn't tell them to hit the tire....I told them to take out one tire each as well as the WHEEL WITH IT!!

    WEN THOSE .50 CAL. SNIPER OUNDS HIT AT THAT VELOCITY.....IT WAS LIKE A SMALL BOMB GOING OFF NEAR EACH LIMO!!! LOL!!!

    The Tire EXPLODED AND SO DID THE WHEEL!!

    No other shots were fired...mostly because both sides who were armed with Machine Pistols and the like....GOT THE S#!# SCARED OUT OF THEM!!!

    So I yelled...." I KNOW YOU UNDERSTAND ME!!! NEXT MAN ON EITHER SIDE SO MUCH AS TWITCHES OR MOVES.....WILL END UP LIKE THOSE TIRES!!!"

    I told them that just two Envoys EACH could come into the Bunker and if they came in armed WE WOULD SHOOT THEM DEAD...so they better disarm in the street!!!

    YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEM THE NUMBER OF SMALL PISTOLS, KNIVES, GRENADES....ETC......all designed to pass through a METAL DETECTOR....THESE 4 GUY'S PULLED OUT OF THEIR CLOTHS!!!

    After that they came in and started B!#C#!NG and I told them I COULD CARE LESS IF THEY LIVED OR DIED!!! And if they pulled a stunt like that again I had TOTAL AUTHORITY TO DO WHATEVER I DEAMED NECESSARY!!!


    Then I looked at one of the Hamas guy's and told him....."YOU ARE HOLDING ME UP FROM A BBQ I SHOULD BE HAVING AT HOME and I have FULL AUTHORITY TO KILL EVERY SINGLE LAST ONE OF YOU if you try S#!#
    like that again!!!

    This got the ball rolling again.

    The last and 3rd time which was not long ago.....I LOCKED ALL PARTIES IN THE CONFERENCE ROOM AND TOLD THEM THEY WOULD EITHER COME OUT WITH A DEAL OR THEY WOULD STAY IN THEIR WITH NO FOOD, NO WATER.....I turned off the airconditioning in the Bunker Conference room and LOCKED THEM IN and also told them no bathroom breaks.....no nothing until they told me they had come to a full agreement of schedual!!


    It worked.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    On that note........ I have a fifty or so page booklet that I honestly believe would be a worthy investment of your time.

    Robert was given this in an OOBE back in 1992 or 1993 and he has said to me over and over again that he never would have been able to come up with this himself.

    I have ran into lots of cases where somebody seems to have a massive surge in IQ and/or wisdom or something like it during an OOBE or NDE!

    I read the summary for the Bermigo Plan by Gordon Miller several years ago. I am convinced that what Robert was shown fits strangely well with what Mr. Miller wrote.

    http://www.godspeaceplan.blogspot.ca/2014/07/gods-peace-plan-for-holy-land-peace.html
     
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    Okay things just got weird for me. I happened upon an article today: Near-death experiences occur when the soul leaves the nervous system and enters the universe, claim two quantum physics experts.

    It describes that the people responsible for the Orch-OR theory of consciousness have decided to build on that success with the idea of a soul and all I can say is eep!

    They are jumping to conclusions by claiming the existence of a soul and are putting the cart before the horse. I'm not sure we're at the point yet where we can talk about this idea as valid science. At this point I think it's just an idea.
     
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    Well as I stated and you stated our Brains do operate in a Quantum Manner.

    But the only people who experience actual DEATH are those who actually DIE...and those who drown in Winter Super Cold Water and the water has to fill their lungs to drop down body temps. to a low enough point to prevent Brain cell Damage.

    When a person drowns in super cold water their heart stops, their breathing stops and all BRAIN WAVE ACTIVITY STOPS!!!

    When a person is CLIMICALLY DEAD like I once was...their Heart and Lungs stop unctioning but they stil have brain wave activity thus THEY ARE NOT ACTUALLY DEAD!!!

    But the person who drowns and has NO BRAINWAVE ACTIVITY......IF THEIR BODY Temp. is slowly brought up and at a certain temp. we begin to use mechanical assistance to force their heart to beat and their lungs to breath a curious thing happens....as long as the person has not been Brain Dead for no longer than about 30 to 40 minutes.....as their body temp. is brought up and they are forced t breath and their heart is shocked into beating....many times....THE HUMAN BRAIN REBOOTS LIKE A COMPUTER!!

    Thus these people WERE ACTUALLY DEAD......BECAUSE EVEN IF YOUR LUNGS AND HEART STOP FUNCTIOING....IF THE BRAIN REBOOTS.....A PERSON WILL COME BACK FROM THE DEAD!!!

    THESE are the people to discuss their experiences.

    Now when I was clinicaly dead.....my Brain Wave activity continued and thus I was NOT ACTUALLY BRAIN DEAD!

    As far as a SOUL.....I believe the SOUL is our HUMAN CONSCIOUNESS.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    AboveAlpha.... it sounds to me like you read about "operation standstill?"

    What did you think of her particular case?

    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/evidence01.html

     
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    I understand the concept of consciousness being a quantum computer program in the brain. What I'm cautious about is taking a theory at its word when it's still in the experimental stage. I've seen theories come and go in the span of a month, from news headlines...

    Well, if it's to be believed, the essence that allows the program to run has been around since the beginning of time, and it might, that's not certain but might, exist forever.

    If consciousness is the requirement for the program, there's going to be a lot more than human consciousness exiting into the universe upon its death. A LOT MORE!@

    But here's the thing. I don't recall any winter drowning victim's Near Death Experience. I thought they saw nothing. So, it could just be that there's useless to anyone surplus information just floating about in the Universe from every living thing. Perhaps it's not for our benefit, regarding there being an afterlife. Maybe it just stands around and could be accessed using top level knowledge of such things, or maybe it's just out of reach.

    We may never know.
     
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    Wgabrie.... you are going to want to scroll up and read post #65. This is pretty close to what you are looking for...… or just google Pam Reynolds, near-death.com.

    Also...… I believe that this topic relates to the phenomena of child prodigies. How does a child sit down to the piano at the age of three or four and play it like a pro?

    This topic is related to the Dr. Ian Stevenson research.

    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/reincarnation01.html

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Stevenson

     
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    Well Dennis, I can always count on you to bring up a near death experience. And that cold surgery case in post 65 is exactly the kind of case that AboveAlpha was talking about!!!

    From the evidence strange things are going on. But, I was looking for an explanation of them in a plausible theory.

    I understand we're not there yet regarding the capability of studying these things. But I feel that the time when these things can be studied is close. And, I was sort of hoping that it would be possible to do so in my lifetime.
     
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    Personally…… I think that String Theory plus The Law of Complexity Consciousness……… implies that consciousness has been around for much longer than Charles Darwin or the very best of his students could ever imagine!

    I believe that somewhere around 99% of "evolution" takes place in dimensions of space - time that String Theory implies would be invisible?!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Complexity-Consciousness
     
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    I don't agree with the Law of Complexity Consciousness. Now this person's idea is that currently we are only evolving socially, but what's really happening is that our brains are shrinking! :omfg:

    Our Brains Are Shrinking. Are We Getting Dumber?

    Now this is just one of the signs that we humans are undergoing rapid evolution. Where it's taking us is anyone's guess and no one knows if it's a good or bad thing.

    (Actually it would be a good thing if all that extra space results in a new, highly evolved brain lobe or something that helps us better understand our world)
     
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    As for String Theory, I don't know what to think. It depends on testing at energy levels that are beyond our current means to test. It may never be done.

    The Large Hadron Collider is currently powering up after its upgrades and we might start getting results at the end of May, I think.

    Well, the way some people talk this might be the last chance for the LHC to find evidence of exotic particles, supersymmetry, and new physics. If it fails, it's back to the drawing board for physical theories. This is amid concern that high price tags and no results is going to be the death knell of using particle colliders to study physics.


    Oh, and Dennis? Dimensions are aspects of the physical universe. They are indirectly responsible for making the right conditions available for life to evolve, but there would need to be a special quantum dimension(s) for them to be directly responsible for the evolution of consciousness. I don't know about that.
     
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    Dennis.....the ONLY WAY...to do this is to have installed a U.S. Military FEL...or FREE ELECTRON LASER provided power by at least two A1B Fission Reactors.

    Then use one of the new OVER 5000 QUIBIT....actual number of Quibits is CLASSIFIED....Quantum Computers as before Quantum Processors they had to use these large but very powerful NETWORKED IBM SUPER COMPUTERS......but these would have to be tied into some SERIOUS HARDCORE ACTIVE RADAR SYSTEMS....and there would have to be LAND BASED RADAR, SATELLITE BASED RADAR, AIRCRAFT CARRIED RADAR......AND SHIP DEPLOYED RADAR.

    The U.S. FEL when properly provided power is capable of VAPORIZING A 1 TO 1.5 CM HOME THROUGH 1000 FEET OF SOLID STEEL!!!

    The ONLY way that it would be possible to stop all Rocket Attacks on Israel.....would be to have a MULTILE LAYERED DETECTION SYSTEM...Radar, IR-Light, Atmospheric Displacement Detection...etc....and the ONLY Nation that has such systems of the FEL is THE UNITED STATES.

    Anyone could carry a small rocket with a 2 mile range and launch it wherever they put it down and this rocket could have a small BUT LETHAL PAYLOAD.....enough to kill a family having a PICNIC LUNCH....so the ONLY way to stop something like this is first.....


    #1. MULTIPLE LAYERS OF DETECTION.

    #2. EITHER QUANTUM COMPUTERS OR NETWORKED IBM SUPER COMPUTERS FOR TARGETING THE FEL.

    #3. AT LEAST 2 A1B NUCLEAR REACTORS SUPPLYING POWER TO THE FREE ELECTRON LASERS SO THAT THE MISSILES WARHEAD AND WARHEAD ALONE IS TARGETTED AND VAPORIZED.

    #4. An FEL or FREE ELECTRON LASER SYSTEM....and the U.S. doesn't just lend these out and just one probably costs more than the entire 3 Year GDP of Israel.

    #5. PEOPLE TO RUN IT!!! As only the American Techs. are going to understand how to use this.

    So....unless someone comes out with STAR TREKIAN SHEILDS.....the FEL is the ONLY ACTUAL EXISTING SYSTEM THAT CAN DO THIS!!!

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Okay, I suppose I haven't been giving this idea a fair shake. I think I need to be nicer about this.

    I just find the idea a little scary. As well, the idea of a Universe where there's no rest for the weary. Consciousness just keeps going on and on in one form or another after its formation. And there's no idea yet whether it continues on indefinitely or temporarily.

    Whether there's a Universal "god" mind or if there's a bunch of individual consciousnesses floating around out there.
     
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    Wga....I used to think and think and think about such things....but now even though I understand a good amount of it I also understand what is really important is friends.....beer, wine or other alcohol, hot women and men....and good music!!!

    I am having stream water poured over me earlier at a temp. of 80 degrees but the stream keeps drying up ever other day!!!

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Okay, I won't think too hard about this.

    And, okay I don't know where you're going with this stream water bit.
     
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