Omicron ripping through college campus

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  1. kreo

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    I do mind, the effect of vaccination will probably last for couple of weeks.
     
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    not true, the effect of vaccination lasts a long long time, but as this is a fast virus, the boosters just keep your immune system primed to target this virus faster
     
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    Which means what exactly? That you'll still get infected, you just might not die. Laughable. Hence why all of the folks I know, currently with COVID are fully vaccinated, and boosted. This is the BS that creates passable "science" and yet, clearly, these pills do nothing to prevent someone from being infected in the first place which is, by definition, a vaccination. Oh, wait, CDC changed it. Why? Wasn't Pfizer having serious financial problems before the government bought all of their stock of vaccines? And now, magic, they're doing great. This is lunacy. And of course, the actual field observable data suggests that the shots, as well as boosters are almost entirely non effective against Omicron. Which substantively then creates the "fear" that supports the agenda of lockdowns or other draconian BS that you're all whoo hoo about.

    So, the real issue here is that your post doesn't actually tell us anything. With Omicron, no one seems to be either hospitalized or dying. That seem problematic then for marketing the "effectiveness" of the pill. As in, doesn't do anything useful. So why take it? Your citation doesn't mention anything about how the pill would keep you from acquiring omicron, but in the scheme of things, why wouldn't it be the best possible solution to attain herd immunity. And isn't that what Pfizer fears the most? Not being needed? That really seems to be the true conversation here.
     
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    Some of the science is suggesting you're giving up future immunity development. Wonder why that's not getting more airplay from the media who seem to share a lot of board members with big pharma these days... I guess that you just missed these inconvenient facts.
     
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    the pill is for those that did not get vaccinated and beg for help at a hospital when they catch it - or people that have a compromised immune system

    not sure why your upset about such a pill existing

    "This is the BS that creates passable "science" and yet, clearly, these pills do nothing to prevent someone from being infected in the first place"

    the pill is not a vaccine, it's for people that have covid but need treatment
     
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    Hmm.. that seems to not be what the Pfizer folks are telling the world. Why would you try to trot this out? Pills for everyone. Buy em now.... while supplies last... It's like watching old time hucksters.
     
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    can you quote where you read that?

    it would be good for high risk patients, say in a nursing home, not everyone is to take it

    https://www.usnews.com/news/world/a...d-19-pill-near-90-effective-in-final-analysis

    "The Pfizer pills are taken with the older antiviral ritonavir every 12 hours for five days beginning shortly after onset of symptoms. If authorized, the treatment will be sold as Paxlovid."
     
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    The CDC statistics for the last two years indicates that vaccines have zero effect on the common cold viruses.
    Actually it even looks like all vaccinations efforts caused more deaths in 2021 then in 2020.
    Once you see the moving average of of COVID deaths goes down let me know.
     
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    you gonna post a link? sure, if a vaccine doesn't target the right virus, it won't have an effect

    just like if covid mutates to a form that this vaccine doesn't target, that is not a failure of the vaccine, just means it's not the right vaccine to target that virus

    if I have a screwdriver that is too big for the job, it don't work, all screwdrivers suck? or do I have the wrong size tool for the job?

    they told me screwdrivers screwed in screws, but this one doesn't work for this screw, they lied

    I keep hearing these kinda of things about vaccines
     
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    Omicron is ripping through the nation. The numbers are skyrocketing. Vaccinated people are getting Covid for the first, second, and even third times.
     
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    Spoiler alert: This is the new "normal". Sorry bud.
     
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    Ok, so you have got it finally.
    Vaccines do not work.
    No screwdriver will remove the screw if screw has gone already.
    Vaccines mandates is essentially a political tool, to enslave people.
     
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    that's not what I said, sad
     
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    Enslaving people is why Sleepy Joe is so strongly pushing the clot shots. He's a drug pusher.
     
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    So as my last employer, since August, employees must be fully vaccinated, and their strict vaccination policy has nothing to do with Biden.

    Covid Absenteeism/Hospitalizations/shutdowns; Cost to employers, hundreds of billions
     
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    What about Corporate vaccination mandates, a political tool?

    More like a cost saving tool to me.......There’s no more Corporate Covid Aid/Financing, and
    Absenteeism, Hospitalizations, and shutdowns are costing Corporate USA hundreds of billions.
     
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    You realize, being sick with Omicron and being hospitalized or close to death from Omicron are very different.:roll:
     
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    Yeah, I do.
     
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    Noooooo.... :spin:
     
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    That is exactly what you said.
    government is forcing injections of vaccines against the virus that has long gone.
    Essentially you are trying to cut the tail of the wind.
    that is actually why there is absolutely no statistical data that show any "vaccine" benefit.
     
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    Corporate politics follow government politics. As we can see government impose their policies through corporations.
    Government will deny fat contracts or corporate welfare to those coprorations that does not kiss government a..ss.
    Absenteeism, Hospitalizations are exactly the same with vaccines or without vaccines. It is actually even worse with vaccination.
     
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    There is no large sample data (other then sporadic pseudoscientific studies) that demonstrate positive vaccine effect on the population of the United States.
     
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    I never said that, and I do not support government mandates - I am pro-choice, your body, your choice

    vaccines have been shown to be very safe and effective - real world data confirms this
     
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    Good news, the Pfizer protease inhibitor was just approved:

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/22/health/pfizer-antiviral-pill-authorized/index.html

    That doesn't mean it will be widely available, hopefully it will be by mid to end January. The demand for this pill will be astronomical. I bet that EVERY anti-vaxxer will want it when they get sick with covid.
     
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    Biden did that without even making a group to do it for him like warp speed, amazing, no other administration could have done that
     
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