Over 60% of US voters say Russia is enemy – poll

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  1. litwin

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    with other words , all Kremlin trolls gang and media attack on USA institutions were counterproductive, and THE majority of USA people and Its DEMOCRATIC INSTITUTIONS can NOT be fooled.Comments?

    https://www.rt.com/usa/389840-us-voters-russia-enemy/
     
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    I dont put a lot of faith in the accuracy of phone polls, its not hard to program an autodialer to call a certain demographic and 'find' whatever results you want, what with all the metadata being traded around.
    At any rate, it certainly seems like more people than I had hoped have been roped into this fearmongering and demonization propaganda campaign against Russia. If we succeed in goading them into a war, I cant think of a more tragically pointless way to destroy civilization, humanity and likely the planet.
    Russia is the graveyard of Empires. Its where they tend to go right before they fall.
     
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    Yes, wasn't Afghanistan the graveyard of empires? Did the CCCP in didn't it?
     
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    A cowboys and Indians poll for which the world consists of only Allies OR Enemies - for which everyone who is not an ally is therefore an enemy. Foreign policy by cartoon character analysis.
     
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    Afghanistan had a *lot* of help from us. They didnt kick out the soviet union til we started funneling in shiploads of stinger missiles.
     
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    Sure, ended the SU?
     
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    And Obama belittled Romney when Romney said Russia is our biggest threat. Obama said to ; " Hey Romney, the 1980's called and wants their foreign policy back".
     
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    I see somebody suddenly acquired deep passion towards RT. Such a windy persona our Litwin is..!


    And seriously. A poll. Wooooooow. Such important latest news, a poll. In which participated “landline and cellphone interviews with some 1,011 randomly chosen registered voters.”

    Can you imagine that? A whole thousand voters, it's almost as much as lives in a couple apartment buildings..!
     
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    ugh... I have to be honest I despise these bad guys lists, it's so simplistic.

    I would like the threat list to stop focussing on a nation in particular, frequently it's partially interests not aligning. Like Russia in Syria an ally and Russia's cyberwarfare a threat internally.

    There are many threats to the US, demonising one nation above another is a mistake, it also makes people lose perspective.

    I think terrorism is the biggest threat the world over and if I absolutely must pick a nation, I think China is the US's biggest threat because it's passive aggressive and will overtake the US economy in 20 years.
     
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    Ah, yes, but polls don't seem that accurate anymore.

    I agree with this poll, Russia is the enemy, I'd urge unitedstatians to oppose Russia, Putín and his minions in every way, their interests are not his.

    This is why I am so pleased over the election of Trump; his steadfast upholding of sanctions against Russia for their intervention in Ukraine and seizure of Crimea, his bombardment of Russia's chemical weapons air base in Syria, his welcome to NATO of Montenegro and affirmation of support to Georgia as it confronts Russian intervention, are all very positive steps from a properly motivated US leader. I thank my god every day Trump was elected.
     
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    i hate Nazi RT, did it just for you
     
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    no they dont have democracy, too heavy form of governance , and economy which can produce only low end products . one for sure in 20 years the hans will take over entire Siberia , but it´ll not save them
     
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    I disapprove your attitude.
     
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    Just for me? How charming of you..! If only you knew what sources I actually use..! Still - cute try.
     
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    It is your word for China? Just making it clear for the English speaking users.
     
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    "If only you knew what sources I actually use..!" Olgino closed network?
     
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    "English speaking" yes, its an academical language,

    Han Chinese - Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_Chinese
    The Han Chinese, Han people or simply Han are an ethnic group native to East Asia. ...... The estimated contribution of northern Hans to southern Hans is substantial in both paternal and maternal lineages and a geographic cline exists for ...
     
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    No, for the most part when I look into news - I use internet bloggers for that, and after check the concerning or interesting topics through few media sources of different vector.
     
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    It is ethnic, and not a valid term for all chinese.
     
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    so stop call yourselves "russian" cos its "ethnic"
     
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    First of all, in my case it is a correct to apply that term. Second, "russian" also serves as term for citizens of Russian Federation. If we would've spoke in Russian, terms would've been "русские" and "россияне", but in English language that difference is absent.
     
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    I was under the imprrssion that it was Star Wars that ultimately did the Soviet Union in. They tried too hard to counter a program that didn't exist. Though Im sure Afghanistan helped in draining them as well, and every other aspect of the Cold War.

    Ultimately, I would say collectivism killed the Soviet Union.

    Even Communism couldnt survive Russia ;)
     
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    You also forget about such phenomenon as "Parade of Sovereignities" - a backlash of constitution of 1977, that reformed SU into a unitary state - decidion which found relatively low acceptance among citizens of soviet countries. As result - increased the strive for sovereignity, that resulted in massive barrage of referendums and proclamations of automy, sovereignity, or independence from Soviet Union by it's subjects, including RSFSR in June of 1990.

    Despite the Communist Party being, effectively, a backbone of Soviet Union it was not the only structure that existed in it, and administrations of soviet republics were not too eager to have their authority taken from them and passed to an even more centralized form of Union government.
     
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    and then Al Qaeda turned into ISIS and we funded them to overthrow Syria.
     

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