Palestinian incitement to terror

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  1. MGB ROADSTER

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    https://www.ynetnews.com/article/sy88fzr3i

    incitement is a strategic threat to Israel's security, transforming young, promising Palestinians into murderers, while incitement online 'no less dangerous than guns'.

    Palestinian society must ask itself how it was able to raise such monsters. It must wonder if, in the name of a "national struggle", it had lost its humanity.
    A society that turns a 13-year-old boy into a murderer cannot claim innocence.
     
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    Anyone who asks a question like that understands very little about "Palestinian society".
    We're talking about a society where it is seen as normal and acceptable to have terrorist training camps for kindergarten age children.

    As is very common in the Muslim World, the other muslims just turn a blind eye to it.

    Heck, even in the U.S. there are some of these schools for Palestinian children (both boys and girls), trying to indoctrinate them to be militantly against the Israelis. The same sort of spirit of these terrorist kindergartens in the Middle East, if not actual terrorism.

    To a certain extent, it is a spectrum, a matter of degrees, because the Israeli side is not totally without controversy either, although the Palestinian side is more desperate, willing to use worse tactics.

    Isn't it almost just as bad turning a 19 year old into a "murderer" as a 13 year old?

    And besides, as far as many of the Palestinians are concerned, it's not "terrorism", it's "war".
    (Which brings up some philosophical questions about what exactly the distinctions are between war and terrorism, since civilians very often do get targeted and suffer during a war)
     
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    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    By "incitement" I would assume you are talking about the continuing Israeli program of bulldozing the homes of Palestinians IN PALESTINE!!

    I don't know where you live, but I suspect you could even incite violence here in the USA if you showed up and started bulldozing the homes of citizens here.

    In fact, I think you could do that ANYWHERE!
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'll sum up the difference between the Israelis and the Palestinians.

    The Israelis could kill every Palestinian in the entire region if they wanted to, but don't.

    The Palestinians want to kill every Israeli in the entire region, but can't.
     
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    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    That makes no sense at all.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm sure in your mind it doesn't.

    Could the Israeli's mass murder all the Palestinians any time they wanted to?
     
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    That makes no more sense than bragging about how we could slaughter all Canadians if we wanted to.

    Your idea just devolves into a claim that Israel has absolutely NO morality to it in any way.

    They have CLEARLY gone way off track. But, your suggestion that they should prove to the world that they have zero moral values is disgusting.


    What do you think about the move by Netanyahu to own the Israeli Supreme Court and ensure that he himself can make any law he wants without consent of the people or their representatives?

    Israel is going to HELL in a handbasket, and the USA is urging them on.
     
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    It would make sense if Canadians were slipping across the border and slitting people's throats in the middle of the night, claiming they would "drive us to the sea".

    Israel does have morality. They defend themselves. That's why all the Palestinians aren't dead.

    If the Palestinians, on the other hand, could kill every man, woman and child in Israel, they would.

    THAT is the difference.
     
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    Dude, Israel is about to pass the most anti-democratic law in the world since 1933 Enabling Act in Germany. I can't think of more dire form of incitement. :(
     
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    You got your analogy backwards.

    Israel is bulldozing the homes of people in Palestine.

    They also deny Palestinians representation in the military law that Israel imposes on them.

    I've read your posts. I know what you would think if some foreign country started bulldozing your neighborhood.

    Plus, you are DEAD WRONG about your "drive them to the sea" bs. For DECADES now, Palestine's position is that of having a secure border and the right to govern on their side of the border as Israel governs on the Israeli side of the border.
     
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    I have no doubt that if they could snap a finger and pull a Thanos on all Arabs between the river and the sea, many Israelis would.
     
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    Why are they bulldozing homes?

    Could they just bulldoze ALL the homes?

    If the Palestinians wanted peace they could have it tomorrow. Instead, they have a terrorist organization as a form of government.

    I'm not dead wrong about anything.

    The people sneaking into people's homes and killing them aren't the Israelis.

    Like I said, if Israel wanted every single Palestinian dead tomorrow, they could easily do it.

    How they feel about the Israelis is a matter of record. They have no desire to live together in peace. They want them dead.
     
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    What's stopping them?

    They could bomb every building in Palestine to cinders and roll in tanks to finish them off tomorrow if they wanted to.
     
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    No. There is absolutely NOTHING Palestine could do to cause Israel from a ceasefire, let alone an end to war.

    Netanyahu has stated many times that he will NEVER allow a two state solution. His ONLY direction is the destruction of Palestine.

    Remember that Palestine has petitioned the various arms of the UN to help move to a two state solution.

    >>Remember that the USA backs Israel's refusal to end the war against Palestine, regardless of conditions. We stand behind the continuation of the war in the UN, by giving arms and aid to Israel, and by blocking the way for any possibility of a peace initiative.

    There is nothing Palestine could possibly do to end the US support for war against Palestine.
     
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    They would face a immediate worldwide condemnation and boycott and be kicked out of the UN.
     
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    So they'd get the same hate they get now anyway.
     
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    Why?

    I do not see ANY limit to what the US would support Israel in doing.

    And, I don't believe the UN could take any such action in direct opposition to the USA.

    Besides, what would change were Israel not a UN member? They don't follow UN law today on issues of war, human rights, representation, borders, or anything else.
     
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    So you're saying Israel could use nuclear weapons on the Gaza strip and the USA would say okie dokie???

    LOL
     
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    You are majorly confused.

    What Netanyahu is doing to democracy and domestic policy in Israel has Israelis marching in the streets. There is broad opposition to the Netanyahu plans for increasing the size of settlements all across Palestine, taking more land from Palestinians.

    There is opposition to Netanyahu having the power to pick members of their supreme court and the power to reverse the highest court's decisions.

    Israel is nearing the end of their status as a democracy.

    Nobody, including YOU should see that as a positive direction.
     
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    Please comment on what I say.

    Nuclear weapons use is an extreme methodology - unnecessary to accomplish what was proposed.
     
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    THIS is what you proposed as a reaction to bombing and tanks.

    And, that is what I referred to as highly unlikely to cause the action you specify.

    Remember that Israel bombs civilian infrastructure (hospitals, power stations, water service, apartment buildings, etc.) throughout Gaza, and gets no complain from the USA.

    Suggesting they would be be kicked out of the UN for moving that same program to West Bank is ridiculous.
     
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    Why they do that ?
    Is it because the filthy Palestinian Jihad terrorists fire rockets first ?
    Lol give us a break.
    Palestinians are the cause of their misery !
     
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    For the last 20 years, Israel has been waging war on Gaza as per international law on what constitutes war.

    Suggesting that firing some lame un-targetable rockets is "fire rockets first" is just plain silly.

    Israel demands that THEY get to wage war, while Gaza is not allowed to shoot back.

    And, if they DO, then Israel thinks that means they get a free pass to carry out humanitarian atrocities against them.
     
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    It's not quite as you are characterizing it.
    Maybe you neglected to mention the campaign of terrorism coming from the Palestinian population? (not all of them, to be sure, but a very significant number, and an even larger percentage who condone and protect it)
    If that terrorism stopped, or the Palestinians as a society were actually resolved to stop it, there would be no "war".

    For example, Israel launches rockets and mortars into Lebanon only as a response to rockets or mortars being fired from the territory over to their side. If Israel were not acting as an oppressive occupying force, everyone knows those rockets and mortars would start being fired from the Gaza territory, into Israel.
     
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    Update - Palestinians are the cause of their misery ! and their supporters are the ones that truly hate them.
     

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