Pantheism has more logic

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  1. Interaktive

    Interaktive Well-Known Member

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    Pantheism has more logic
    than in deism and monotheism
    in pantheism, time goes without beginning and end
    living organisms have always existed
    do you agree
     
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    Interaktive Well-Known Member

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    people believe in god because they don't know what eternity is
     
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    Swensson Devil's advocate

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    No. This does not seem like an accurate representation of pantheism, nor does it contain anything particularly logical.
     
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    lemmiwinx Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Theisms in general are so lame it hurts. When early people looked at the sky and said there must be a god up there. Silly, silly god worshipers.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Dr. Albert Einstein, (if I remember correctly), termed himself to be "a Pantheist after the order of Spinoza."

    I believe in Theistic Evolutionary Theory......
    INTELLIGENCE would begin in fundamental energy an eternity in the past......
    and then the First Intelligence would eventually begin to create "others."

    I believe that One Intelligence has truly "evolved" and all others were invented.

    www.CarbonBias.blogspot.ca/
     
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    yes, einstein is a pantheist
    but I'm sure he lied for money
     
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    While we are here in this four dimensional space - time continuum it is extremely difficult to not lie, even to ourselves, on some topics that we are not ready to face the full truth for at this time.

    Near death experiencer Christian Andreason met Dr. Albert Einstein during his brush with death and.....

    in the out of the body state Dr. Einstein would no longer have been able to lie, IF, Christian Andreason's NDE was a genuine meeting with the Creator, (personally I am convinced that his NDE was genuine, but I admit that I am biased)?????

    http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/index.html

    Christian Andreason, chapter three

     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are just a person looking for God with your intellect. In fact, you can invent him.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually..... I am guilty of thinking that YHWH..... in a sense Formed Himself..... out of Energy from Quantum Vacuum.....or perhaps from something even more energetic that that would be????

    I believe that The Ancient of Days the Father and the Ancient of Days the Mother, (The Ruach ha Kodesh, The Holy Spirit).... came into existence first... and then all other life forms were invented or created!

    www.CarbonBias.blogspot.ca/

    I am of the belief that the fall of former Covering Cherub Halel probably occurred at least millions, if not even billions of years before the fall of Adam and Eve in Eden?!

    https://near-death.com/richard-eby-nde/



    Young earth vs old earth theory?


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      Old earth... up to five billion or so years old.
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    2. A somewhat old earth... perhaps tens or hundreds of thousands of years old
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    3. A relatively young earth.... less than twenty thousand years old
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    4. I believe that the earth is roughly seven thousand years old.
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    You can tell by the asterix that I am actually in agreement with the ninety two percent in this poll.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Speaking for my self.....I take to heart that Jesus is not about all this research and mental gymnastics. If it is, I give up. I trust in Him that His burden is light. He set His Holy Spirit to the meekest of meek to guide and direct. I will know all you pretend to know when I am joined to Him. It doesn't matter for me now.
     
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    My granddaughter attends a preschool run in the local Greek Orthodox church.

    She commented, "They have a lot of pictures of god. Mostly Zeus."
     
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    Well said.....
    I am a former Atheist so I feel a special calling to attempt to reach out to Atheists and Agnostics and use some of the language that they use....... (if possible)??!!
     
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    I consider myself an evangelical. Not long after I found Salvation I went around knocking on doors with a team trying to reach the lost. I found we were answering questions they weren't even asking. It was a lesson. It was like trying to fish with dynamite. Somewhere I read "no one comes to the Father unless the Spirit draws him". So now I only answer questions, and look for an opportunity where the Spirit stirs the water. If I only plant a seed, that is fine too. Coming to Jesus most often results from a broken spirit and a humbleness. Short of a miracle from God, self avowed atheists and agnostics don't fill that bill. I'll share a little levity here that does make sense.
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    My wife is a gifted Pentecostal and
    five months before I met her in person she was somehow told that I was going to be her husband and that she should fast and pray for me for thirty five days. She obeyed this... and for three days per week for four weeks and then for seven days in a row for the fifth week she only drank fruit juices and ate no solid food. Jesus would wake her up early in the mornings and get her to pray for me and only after praying for me could she sleep. I was three thousand miles north, north, east of her experiencing off the scale Shalom and peace of mind.

    I know that I know that there are off the scale gifted and Holy Spirit guided and led Evangelical Christians. I attend Catch the Fire here in Mississauga now and some of the gifted Christians there have really amazed me.

    You are so correct that reaching out to Atheists and unbelievers is challenging.
     
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