Part 10 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    Yes, a global flood a flood that the Bible did not got to specific as to what was going on on other parts of the world the flood that concentrated on Noah in his region and the Ark that saved his family and animals of each kind and that flood that modern science is now echoing to the world about a global disaster if man do not change their ways the only difference this time is that science has it's own terms and specifics they called it CLIMATE CHANGE OR GLOBAL WARMING.

    The humanity was already dead wickedness and evil was in them men have murdered themselves and God saved what is left to be saved.

    There is no contradiction because God did the only thing left to save men, animals and the earth from human wickedness. The contradiction is for God not to do anything and allow humanity to suffer and murder each other while He tells His people that He is the Almighty and refuse to do anything to stop Satan from murdering the earth that is the contradiction.
     
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    trevorw2539 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Genesis 7:19. They (the waters) rose greatly on the earth, and all the high mountains under the entire[B][/B] heavens were covered. Seems pretty specific to me.
     
  3. dairyair

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    Avoidance of answering the question. Duly NOTED. Must've been to hard for you.
    When I ask a question, it isn't always because I don't know the answer, it is because I want to see which version you use and follow.
     
  4. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Not sure why God would regret anything. He knows the paths and outcome before they ever happen. How can God regret something he knew would happen at the creation?
     
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    Can't disprove that a God Exist but can prove that the bible is a work of fiction. Easy to prove that there was no world wide flood and if it was an area only flood that the authors thought was world wide still makes it fiction. Other stuff can be disproven as well such as various tribes not existing where they said they exist at the time Moses attacked them with his goons for example.
     
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    Wrong you think God exist. Your taking a books word for it that characters in that book claim that he exist so your showing FAITH in a book of FICTION.
     
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    Slyhunter New Member Past Donor

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    The bible says the flood killed all living beings except for those being on the ark. So it would have to be a world flood to do that. And there are cultures that were around prior to the flood that still existed after the flood which proves it to be a lie.
     
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    I suggest actually reading the verse, and getting back with me.

    I am assuming the concept of predetermination in that that particular verse is beyond you.
     
  9. dairyair

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    All must not mean all.

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    Genesis 7:19-20 hebrew 'mechanical' translation. See below
    and-the-waters they had overcome many many upon the-land and-they-will-much-conceal all the-hill-s which under all the-sky-s
    five ten forearm from-to-upward they-did-overcome the-water-s and-they-will-much-conceal the-hill-s

    English translation. and the waters had overcome a great many upon the land and concealed all of the high hills which are under all of the sky
    fifteen forearms upward the water overcame and much concealed the hills.


    The Mechanical method of translating is a new and unique translation of the Hebrew Bible, which literally and faithfully translates each Hebrew word, prefix and suffix, exactly and consistently.
     
  11. WanRen

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    Genesis 7:19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly on the earth, and all the high hills under the whole heaven were covered. 20 The waters prevailed fifteen cubits upward, and the mountains were covered.
    Yes everything under Heaven were covered with water and now scientist are echoing the same warning that this earth will be cover with water if we do not change our ways they call it GLOBAL WARMING AND GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGE. Pay attention to the word GLOBAL.
     
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    I don't think God exist I know He exist not because of faith or not because of the Bible but because of actual historical events the Bible written by historical individuals not claim but written because of actual personal experiences and inspiration they had but most of all God revealing Himself to us through Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ was crucified because his enemies do not want the people to learn about the truth, Christians were persecuted because Christ enemies are afraid of the truth and false Christ were introduced to muddle and distort the truth.

    World wide flood has already been proven by modern scientist including Steven Hawking they believed that the earth was once a water planet and that the earth will experience another global flooding they call it GLOBAL WARMING-GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGE.
    The various tribes came about after the flood they were descendant of Noah's sons.

    Yes it was a world wide disaster wipe out every creature except those inside the Ark.The cultures that existed after the flood 5000 years later were from Noah's lineages his sons each going their own ways to repopulate the earth.
     
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    You just claimed he is wrong....and showed he is right in the same paragraph.
     
  14. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    I don't think God exist I know He exist.
     
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    Yeah....I get that, kinda hard not to.

    But the reason for your "Knowing" is 100% due to faith, if only because there can be nothing else to explain it.
     
  16. Mitt Ryan

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    Where have I specifically said in my post, "God is all forgiving" and then turned around and said, "God is all condemning"? Clearly you have an issue with comprehending what you read, the issue is you miscomprehend what you read.

    If God is all forgiving as well as all condemning, that's clearly a contradiction...isn't it? For how could God forgive us all then turn around and condemn us all? You no doubt have a comprehension problem...yes?

    Let me make it perfectly clear so even a 3rd grader would not have problems understanding what I say.

    First let me start by first saying we are all sinners, every single last one of us, no matter who you are...are you following me so far?...lol

    Secondly, God forgives those who repent their sins, who ask for forgiveness of their sins, who accept Jesus Christ as their Lord Savior. These people according to Scripture will be saved.

    However the people who don't repent their sins, don't ask for forgiveness of their sins, who do not accept Jesus Christ as their Lord Savior, these people according to Scripture will not be saved, in other words they will be condemned to hell for punishment of their sins.

    Are you understanding all this now? I hope so, I made it easy enough even for a 3rd grader to understand!
     
  17. Mitt Ryan

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    You are comprehending what you read incorrectly, you need to work on your comprehension skills. Whatever your choice is, it's your choice...all I can say is choose wisely!
     
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    Your knowledge of scripture weak and your knowledge of Christianity is exceptionally poor.

    Salvation by faith alone (Sola Fide) may well be what you believe, but to claim this is agreed upon by Christianity as the last word of scripture is a stretch and an embellishment of the truth.

    There are some places in the Bible that seem to support Sola Fide and there are other places that claim something completely different.

    Salvation by faith alone was a Pauline doctrine. John also seems to support this doctrine which makes sense as John is regarded as a Pauline fusion.

    Matt, Mark and Luke have a more works based formula.

    James - Brother of Jesus and leader of the Jerusalem Church - speaks out directly against Paul's doctrine of salvation by faith alone.

    At the end of the day there is no agreement in Christianity as to how one earns salvation.

    One thing that is true is that the Majority of Christianity does not accept Sola Fide. That you accept it is fine, but to claim that Christianity in general agrees that this is what scriptures say simply not true.
     
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    So I guess you hate Stalin 4 times more than God.
     
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    "All living things" in the area or globally? Please, post the verse. You know the drill.

    - - - Updated - - -

    So you once again refuse to post the verse.....hahaha!
     
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    I'm an atheist...I don't believe in Stalin. :blankstare:
     
  22. Mitt Ryan

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    This all comes from the mouth of a non-believer...lol Surely I'm not surprised at all, I would most certainly be shocked if I receive positive comments coming from my non-believing friends!...lol

    You are indeed entitled to your opinions, however I'm sorry to say I don't agree with them.
     
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    Oh yeah I forgot. If you ignore evidence that something exists then for you it doesn't. Got it.
     
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    Well it was because sin had separated us from Him. Before Adam and Eve sinned they had a good relationship with God. Therefore, they were not ashamed to come into God's presence. But after they sinned, their relationship with God changed, and they were ashamed to come into God's physical presence. Sin had separated them and the entire human race-including you-from God.

    But God did not want sin to keep people from having a relationship with Him. So he provided a way in which people could be cleansed of their sins and live with Him in heaven forever. He gave His only Son, Jesus, as the perfect payment for everyone's sins.
     
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    Well, that's not at all a surprise considering they're atheists. Do you have something that will surprise me?...lol
     
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