Part 2 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    This one.
     
  2. taikoo

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    Is it even possible that you cant tell the difference between something that affected the climate around the world, and a flood that put the entire world under water?

    Really?

    Seriously?

    And we are to think that you are somehow in possession of deep knowledge about god? :D

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    We suspect powerful waves of confusion.
     
  3. Mitt Ryan

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    Well, it's obvious then you misunderstood entirely what I was saying...what else is new?...lol

    Worshipping the Lord is one thing that we will be doing which is obvious, however to say 24/7 meaning every second of our existence there is clearly a misunderstanding by you, making it sound like everyone in heaven will be massed into a large group and for every second of our existence there (24/7) we are going to be praising the Lord and singing beautiful gospel songs for His pleasure...lol

    You misunderstood perhaps because you have difficulty in comprehending what you read and then you assume things that are false.

    Like I said in my previous post, the bible reveals very few concrete details about heaven and furthermore there is no Scripture stating that we wil be worshipping our Lord 24/7...like that's the only thing we will be doing.

    I'm sure our Lord will have plenty for us to do besides worshipping Him for all eternity!
     
  4. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    The Jesus character thought that some people were righteous. I guess the guy who wrote Matthew 9:12-13 (CEB) missed Paul's memo.
    [SUP]12 [/SUP]When Jesus heard it, he said, “Healthy people don’t need a doctor, but sick people do.[SUP]13 [/SUP] Go and learn what this means: I want mercy and not sacrifice. I didn’t come to call righteous people, but sinners.”
     
  5. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Let's hope so. Most people go buggy after an hour in church. If they had to do it 24/7 for eternity they would gladly jump into the lake of fire.
     
  6. GraspingforPeace

    GraspingforPeace Well-Known Member

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    You keep claiming people are miscomprehending what you say, but I really don't think that's the case. You still haven't explained how it was ME miscomprehending what you were saying when you declared that God could never do evil... And then declare in the very next paragraph that he uses evil to combat evil.
     
  7. AlphaOmega

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    I honestly think I could explain their side better than they can at this point. Im more fascinated by why it takes so long to answer a couple questions.
     
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  9. WanRen

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    How do you know Discovery Channel is not reliable you can't even bother to watch the whole segment or other segments about science and history this really and clearly show you are not interested in the truth.

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    Flood covering the whole world.
     
  10. GraspingforPeace

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    I can't watch them. I asked you to name one piece of evidence from those clips, can you really not do that?

    That isn't what you told me.
     
  11. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    I did answer that, God was sorry that is why He promise never to destroy human kind again. Did God knew men will become evil? No, because after God created men with free will and gave them the responsibility to rule over the world He distant Himself from knowing what men will do, will men or will men become evil or not, because God originally created men to be good. It was Satan who corrupted men (garden of Eden story).

    Now you will ask, didn't God knew that Satan is evil? No, God created Satan original name Lucifer with free will and all good with free will means no interference from God. Lucifer chose to go against God and because God love Lucifer so much He refuse to destroy him instead He cast him to hell, now you will ask so God created hell? Yes, God created hell because of Satan and Satan expanded that hell to try to destroy Heaven. Before there was only Heaven.

    Is evil sin? Yes, evil is the driving force that make us commit sin.
     
  12. WanRen

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    Flooding and climate change goes hand in hand that is what your own science teaches, strange that you are now contradicting and denying science.Talk to Bill Nye he explain everything in the most practical and easy to understand
    http://www.billnye.com/

    [video=youtube;lO6OnoSDIQE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO6OnoSDIQE[/video]
    [video=youtube;oLDZ8rUzoM4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLDZ8rUzoM4[/video]
     
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    Can you morally justify Abraham's intention to sacrifice Isaac?
     
  14. WanRen

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    Nope, you are just making excuses, if you are really interested in the truth you will make the effort, maybe go to your neighbour or public library I am sure they have full access to You Tube and Discovery Channel don't be lazy.

    Read my lips or read my post FLOODING THE WHOLE WORLD
     
  15. AlphaOmega

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    oooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh so now you say god did destroy man? You said he didnt before, you said man caused it. Now you admit and I quote "He promise never to destroy human kind again." Keyword being "again". Promising not to destroy humankind again proves he did it before. IF he did destroy mankind then he committed acts of murder.
    Murder is evil.
    Evil is not God.
    This is why you shouldnt believe everything other men write on paper at face value. You have failed arguing your point because of simple logic. Go back and re-read your posts. You keep saying one thing then the opposite a few posts later. Dont you guys ever wonder why you have that problem? If you're correct your logic should always prevail in the argument.
     
  16. WanRen

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    Yessssssssss, you still can't get it. God destroy men after men become evil if men did not become evil God will not destroy men. Yes key word "again" because this time God will not let men force Him to destroy them AGAIN.
    Yes MURDER is EVIL, that is why God destroy men to stop them from murdering other men.
    Evil is not God, correct evil is not God evil is Satan...finally at least you got one right and correct.
    The problem is with you just can't accept truth.
    My logic already prevail that is why you guys can't even agree with your own science.
     
  17. AlphaOmega

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    Youve already failed at the argument. Its over. By your own admission god as you believe killed people. Man does not have the power to force God to do anything. God "chose" to kill man (an Evil act) and it is no harder to understand than that. A loving God would not do that. Ever.

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    Now if you could move on to the next question. Can dogs get into heaven?
     
  18. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I just had to point this out. So basically because men were killing men, Gods solution in his infinite wisdom and infinite power in order to stop men from killing men.......was.......wait for it...........to kill men.
    A perfect hypocrisy.
     
  19. Mitt Ryan

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    Well yes I am when it's warranted, I do claim people are miscomprehending what I say and you are one of them. Are you related to dairyair somehow?...lol

    And yes of course you are going to be in denial. So let me explain it as thoroughly as I can be to help you understand that God does not do anything evil, He does only good.

    When God uses evil (nation of Babylon) to combat other evil (people of Judah), He in essence is using one evil to punish the other evil because of their sins. The result of this is that the one that's being punished (people of Judah) will turn away from their sinful ways and start living the right way.

    And eventually the evil that was doing the punishing (nation of Babylon) will be judged and also punished until God conquers all evil and righteousness will ultimately prevail.

    Now below is part of the post that you obviously misunderstood, read it again, I have highlighted key parts in bold to help you focus on what is being said. If you still can't understand it then you sir definitely have a problem with comprehending what you read and I would suggest that you take a class in improving your reading comprehension skills.

    God does not do anything reprehensible, people who view some of His actions as reprehensible just don't understand Him, everything that He does is for the overall good that comes out of His actions.

    In our human perspective some of us just can't grasp the understanding and the necessity of His actions. He is always fighting evil and yes sometimes He has to use evil to fight evil for the overall good that comes out of it.

    As we see in the Book of Habakkuk in the Holy Bible, Habakkuk was troubled by two things: why God allowed the people of Judah to sin, and how God could use a sinful nation like Babylon to punish Judah. Desperate for answers, Habakkuk took his complaints directly to God.

    God answered Habakkud's questions, asserting that He would judge all people but also that righteousness would ultimately prevail. It might not happen immediately, but it would happen. This assurance, along with his glimpse of God's sovereign rule, gave Habakkuk the courage and hope to trust in God's plans regarding the dark day ahead.

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    Well yes I am when it's warranted, I do claim people are miscomprehending what I say and you are one of them. Are you related to dairyair somehow?...lol

    And yes of course you are going to be in denial. So let me explain it as thoroughly as I can be to help you understand that God does not do anything evil, He does only good.

    When God uses evil (nation of Babylon) to combat other evil (people of Judah), He in essence is using one evil to punish the other evil because of their sins. The result of this is that the one that's being punished (people of Judah) will turn away from their sinful ways and start living the right way.

    And eventually the evil that was doing the punishing (nation of Babylon) will be judged and also punished until God conquers all evil and righteousness will ultimately prevail.

    Now below is part of the post that you obviously misunderstood, read it again, I have highlighted key parts in bold to help you focus on what is being said. If you still can't understand it then you sir definitely have a problem with comprehending what you read and I would suggest that you take a class in improving your reading comprehension skills.

    God does not do anything reprehensible, people who view some of His actions as reprehensible just don't understand Him, everything that He does is for the overall good that comes out of His actions.

    In our human perspective some of us just can't grasp the understanding and the necessity of His actions. He is always fighting evil and yes sometimes He has to use evil to fight evil for the overall good that comes out of it.

    As we see in the Book of Habakkuk in the Holy Bible, Habakkuk was troubled by two things: why God allowed the people of Judah to sin, and how God could use a sinful nation like Babylon to punish Judah. Desperate for answers, Habakkuk took his complaints directly to God.

    God answered Habakkud's questions, asserting that He would judge all people but also that righteousness would ultimately prevail. It might not happen immediately, but it would happen. This assurance, along with his glimpse of God's sovereign rule, gave Habakkuk the courage and hope to trust in God's plans regarding the dark day ahead.
     
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    Do dogs get into heaven? Its a simple question. Why does it take you catechists forever to answer?
     
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    You keep claiming that his doing evil is okay because in the end it is for an overall good purpose. How is using evil NOT evil just because you claim the ends justify the means?
     
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    You think that "climate change" regardless of how much or what kind is exactly the same thing as going under hundreds of feet of water.

    No wonder you find you can believe the bible; you are really seriously out of your mind.
     
  23. GraspingforPeace

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    I've already seen the History Channel video so I KNOW it doesnt support what you support.
     
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    Go to class to improve your comprehension skills.
     
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    No, that's wrong.
     
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