Part 38 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. Dirty Rotten Imbecile

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    My question:

    Has the American evangelist movement crowned Donald Trump their modern day messiah?

    He is widely regarded to be the solution to restore past success.
    He has promised to return to lead his faithful followers.
    He is widely prophecied about.
     
  2. Mitt Ryan

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    Again below is what you called Him which are your own words, there is not a single verse in the Book of Genesis that is quoted saying anything of what you've been quoted saying.

    Just admit it, that is your view on how you depict Him to be after reading about the true historical event the Great Flood of Noah in the Book of Genesis.

    My view on how I depict Him after reading about the true historical event the Great Flood of Noah in the Book of Genesis is totally 180 degrees opposite of how you view Him.

    You might ask why is that? Well because I believe in Him to be totally righteous in everything He has done as written in the Scriptures of the Holy Bible whereas you don't because you're an unbeliever of Him.

    You believe in a false god and not in the Christian God. You were quoted saying your god is not the same as my God. Well my God is the Christian God so then your god is a false made up god of your own liking. Below is your quote.

    It is not a nasty depiction, you see it as a nasty depiction because obviously you have misinterpreted what you've read, in other words your interpretation is flawed. The entire Holy Bible is the Word of God, it is not just the parts you like as being the Word of God.

    Who are you to pick and choose which parts of the Holy Bible are true and not true? A person of true faith and trust in Our Creator Almighty God believes the entire Holy Bible is the Word of God and so the entire Holy Bible is true.

    Of course I do, all Christians should know what it is, the unforgivable sin is not believing in Our Creator Almighty God, the Christian God, the Trinity, the Father, Son, Holy Spirit. All other sins are pardonable.

    I agree with you that saying nasty things against Our Creator Almighty God would not be the unforgivable sin.

    It is unbelievers of God who say nasty things about Him, who mock Him, ridicule Him,...etc...etc.

    Well these unbelievers of God could finally wake up and convert and become Christians in the future. So they will be forgiven of all their sins, which of course includes the sins when they were mocking, ridiculing God in their past when they were unbelievers.

    However for the unbelievers who continually say nasty things against God, who continue in their other sinful ways all the way up to their eventual deaths they will not be forgiven of their sins. So that's the unforgivable sin...to go to your death being an unbeliever of Our Creator Almighty God.

    In closing up, the unpardonable sin is the state of continued unbelief. There is no pardon, either in this age or in the age to come, for a person who rejects the Spirit’s promptings to trust in Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ and then dies in unbelief.

    We Read in Scripture:

    36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him. John 3:36 ESV
     
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    Once again afull of deception and falsehood - this is what one expects from a follower of the great deceiver - not one who follows the Truth.

    Your claim that YHWH is not depicted as engaging in Genocide is a desperate act of self deception - and completely false - even "Focus on the Family" - an fundamentalist organization with beliefs similar to yours does not engage in such deception.

    CHRISTIAN STRUGGLES WITH BIBLICAL ACCOUNTS OF GENOCIDE AND “HOLY WAR”
    https://www.focusonthefamily.com/fa...h-biblical-accounts-of-genocide-and-holy-war/

    Then you accuse me for doing exactly what you are doing. You are the one who is saying the Bible is not True - I merely told you what the Bible says .. and it depicts YHWH as a xenophobic genocidal flip flopping God with the most petty and nasty of human characteristic.

    You have consistently denied this fact - and denied scripture in doing so. You are the one who runs from scripture you do not like .. I address scripture head on .. so quit projecting your failings on to me.

    Have you never read the Bible ?.. How is it that you are so unaware of its contents. How do you explain the fact that you continually deny the fact that YHWH is depicted as committing Genocide. It is you who is cherry picking parts you like - and ignoring and denying parts you don't like.

    Down the dark path of deception you have wandered.
     
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  4. Mitt Ryan

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    Sorry but I have no idea what you're talking about...a modern day messiah? The only Messiah there is and will ever be is Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ. Who according to Scripture will return in His 2nd coming. When that will be? No one knows only Almighty God the Father knows when that will be.

    We Read in Scripture:

    Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ said,


    36 “However, no one knows the day or hour when these things will happen, not even the angels in heaven or the Son himself. Only the Father knows.

    37 “When the Son of Man returns, it will be like it was in Noah’s day. 38 In those days before the flood, the people were enjoying banquets and parties and weddings right up to the time Noah entered his boat. 39 People didn’t realize what was going to happen until the flood came and swept them all away. That is the way it will be when the Son of Man comes. Matthew 24:36-39 NLT

    I just presented a part of Chapter 24 from the Gospel of Matthew, the whole chapter has 51 verses, a very interesting read about Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ foretelling us the future.

    But anyhoot since you brought up our last President Donald John Trump's name permit me to make a few more comments.

    It's just so sad for our country that we are stuck with this illegitimate president crazy uncle joe biden, who is not only crazy but senile as well running the country, I actually should say who will be ruining this great country for another 3yrs. & 3 more months...ouch!

    Everything he has done so far has been a total failure. He left Americans behind in enemy territory, inflation is going up through the roof, everything has gone up, gas prices, food, you name it, it's up. People are being fired because of his crazy vaccine mandates...I can go on and on and on.

    Yes, let's bring back our great former President Donald John Trump in the next Presidential election to lead us once again. At least with him we know what we're all going to get... a robust economy, low gas and food prices, increase wages for all, a strong military, other countries respecting us again....I can go on and on and on.
     
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    I love equality of all people, as well as all those who defend equality.

    That love creates a hate bias against all who do not see all people as equal before the law and are led to homophobia and misogyny by religious law and dogma.

    Depending on the denomination of the supernatural brain dead god religion, I hate the right wings who do not recognize our equality.

    The left wingers have repented and should be praised, --- while being advised to leave their vile and immoral religions.

    Watch our friend. He did lie about what I said.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    I disagree. The roots of religion and scripture sprang from the words of ancient prophets who experienced clairvoyance, visions, channeled messages, trances, etc. While much of their original conveyances can be considered as having been divinely inspired, a lot has happened to scripture since then.

    Human nature being what it is, ulterior motives and self-interests have contaminated the Bible.

    Also, some content geared towards particular locations and time periods becomes obsolete.
     
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  7. Mitt Ryan

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    But you certainly did hurt other people that you've encountered in your life's history. C'mon now we all have, are we to believe you're some kind of a sweet, little innocent teddy bear that wouldn't even hurt a fly?...lol

    We have all hurt others because we are all sinners. To sin is to do something that is wrong/evil that hurts others including ourselves.

    You know all the sins that you've committed and Our Creator Almighty God knows all about them as well. Our sins not only hurt people and ourselves but it also hurts Our Creator Almighty God because sins are a transgression against Him. He gave us laws to live by to help us with our daily lives so that we can live in harmony but when the laws are broken the results can only be bad outcomes. So wrongdoing is deserving of punishment.

    Neither did the rests of mankind but He did it voluntarily because He loved all of us to save us from deserved punishment. So all of our combined sins were put on Him, He took our punishment that we deserved upon Himself so He paid our sin debt by voluntarily shedding His innocent blood on the cross and it was the perfect payment for everyone's sins. That's what you call true love to die for others so they could be spared punishment!...wow!...such Divine love!

    Let me now present one of the NLT Bible's mini prologue that adequately explains God's plan.

    God's plan is for you to live with Him in heaven.

    Before Adam and Eve sinned (Genesis3), they had a good relationship with God. Therefore, they were not ashamed to come into God's presence. But after they sinned, their relationship with God changed, and they were ashamed to come into God's physical presence. Sin had separated them and the entire human race-including you-from God. But God did not want sin to keep people from having a relationship with him. So he provided a way in which people could be cleansed of their sins and live with Him in heaven forever. He gave His only Son, Jesus, as the perfect payment for everyone's sins.

    We Read In Scripture:

    Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ said,

    16 “For this is how God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life. 17 God sent his Son into the world not to judge the world, but to save the world through him. John 3:16-17 NLT

    So in closing, it's all up to you Alek. Do you want to accept what Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ has done for you or do you want to just carry on with your current status of disbelief? Oh and thanks for your post it was a pleasure for me to respond to it.
     
  8. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    I think I'll just carry on with my rational beliefs in the same world that most priests and pastors believe in though they will never tell us that. I hope your invisible sky fairy treats you better than he has most people who have devoted their lives to him
     
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  9. Mitt Ryan

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    Your disagreement is duly noted. Thanks for expressing your talking view points, however they were not convincing nor were they adequate enough for me to alter my belief so my belief still stands firm in that a person of true faith and trust in Our Creator Almighty God believes the entire Holy Bible is the Word of God and so the entire Holy Bible is true.

    Now permit me to express my talking view points on why I disagree with you.

    Let's consider some facts about the bible.

    The Bible is not just one single book. It is a collection of 66 books. These 66 books were written by 40 different authors, all coming from a variety of backgrounds. For example, Isaiah was a prophet, Ezra was a priest, Matthew was a tax-collector, John was a fisherman, Paul was a tentmaker, Moses was a shepherd, Luke was a physician etc. And most of these authors never knew one another personally.

    These books were written over a period of 1500 years and so it reminds us that many of these authors never knew or collaborated with one another in writing these books.

    These books were written in three different languages, written in the ancient languages of Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic.

    These books were written on three different continents, Europe, Africa, and Asia. These books share a common storyline, the creation, fall, and redemption of God's people. And a common theme of God's universal love for all humanity. A common message that salvation is available to anyone who repents their sins, believe and trust in God with all their heart, soul, mind and strength.

    The bible is the inerrant Word of God, and so it has no historical errors or contradictions. It would be impossible for anyone to go to any library and find 66 books which match the characteristics of the 66 books in the Bible.

    Considering you must choose 66 books, written by 40 different authors, over 1500 years, in 3 different languages, written on 3 different continents and they must share a common storyline, a common theme, and a common message, with no historical errors or contradictions.

    If anyone could produce such a collection of books, then I will admit that the Bible is not the inspired word of God. Is anybody up to this challenge? I don't think so!

    In conclusion the entire Bible, from Genesis to Revelation, we can say without any doubt, is the Divine inspiration of Our Creator Almighty God!

    We Read in Scripture:

    20 Above all, you must realize that no prophecy in Scripture ever came from the prophet’s own understanding, 21 or from human initiative. No, those prophets were moved by the Holy Spirit, and they spoke from God. 2 Peter 1:20-21 NLT

    16 All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right. 17 God uses it to prepare and equip his people to do every good work. 2 Timothy 3:16-17 NLT
     
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  10. Mitt Ryan

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    Does not matter which version, they all are the Word of God. Below is an article from one of my favorite Christian site that thoroughly explains what are the different English Bible versions and the primary reasons for the different English Bible versions. So please enjoy their thorough in-depth explanation.

    Depending on how one distinguishes a different Bible version from a revision of an existing Bible version, there are as many as 50 different English versions of the Bible. The question then arises: Is there really a need for so many different English versions of the Bible? The answer is, of course, no, there is no need for 50 different English versions of the Bible. This is especially true considering that there are hundreds of languages into which the entire Bible has not yet been translated. At the same time, there is nothing wrong with there being multiple versions of the Bible in a language. In fact, multiple versions of the Bible can actually be an aid in understanding the message of the Bible.

    There are two primary reasons for the different English Bible versions. (1) Over time, the English language changes/develops, making updates to an English version necessary. If a modern reader were to pick up a 1611 King James Version of the Bible, he would find it to be virtually unreadable. Everything from the spelling, to syntax, to grammar, to phraseology is very different. Linguists state that the English language has changed more in the past 400 years than the Greek language has changed in the past 2,000 years. Several times in church history, believers have gotten “used” to a particular Bible version and become fiercely loyal to it, resisting any attempts to update/revise it. This occurred with the Septuagint, the Latin Vulgate, and more recently, the King James Version. Fierce loyalty to a particular version of the Bible is illogical and counterproductive. When the Bible was written, it was written in the common language of the people at that time. When the Bible is translated, it should be translated into how a people/language group speaks/reads at that time, not how it spoke hundreds of years ago.

    (2) There are different translation methodologies for how to best render the original Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek into English. Some Bible versions translate as literally (word-for-word) as possible, commonly known as formal equivalence. Some Bible versions translate less literally, in more of a thought-for-thought method, commonly known as dynamic equivalence. All of the different English Bible versions are at different points of the formal equivalence vs. dynamic equivalence spectrum. The New American Standard Bible and the King James Version would be to the far end of the formal equivalence side, while paraphrases such as The Living Bible and The Message would be to the far end of the dynamic equivalence side.

    The advantage of formal equivalence is that it minimizes the translator inserting his/her own interpretations into the passages. The disadvantage of formal equivalence is that it often produces a translation so woodenly literal that it is not easily readable/understandable. The advantage of dynamic equivalence is that it usually produces a more readable/understandable Bible version. The disadvantage of dynamic equivalence is that it sometimes results in “this is what I think it means” instead of “this is what it says.” Neither method is right or wrong. The best Bible version is likely produced through a balance of the two methodologies.
    Listed below are the most common English versions of the Bible. In choosing which Bible version(s) you are going to use/study, do research, discuss with Christians you respect, read the Bibles for yourself, and ultimately, ask God for wisdom regarding which Bible version He desires you to use.

    King James Version (KJV)
    New International Version (NIV)
    New American Standard Bible (NASB)
    New King James Version (NKJV)
    English Standard Version (ESV)
    New Living Translation (NLT)
    Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)
    New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)
    New Century Version (NCV)
    What is The Voice translation of the Bible?
    New English Bible (NEB)
    American Standard Version (ASV)
    Good News Bible (GNB) / Today’s English Version (TEV)
    Amplified Bible (AMP)
    Today’s New International Version (TNIV)
    New English Translation (NET)
    Lexham English Bible (LEB)?
    Revised Standard Version (RSV)
    Contemporary English Version (CEV)
    God’s Word Translation (GW)
    Common English Bible (CEB)
    What is the Recovery Version of the Bible?
    New International Readers Version (NIrV)
    Easy-To-Read Version (ERV)
    Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)
    Bible in Basic English (BBE)
    Berean Study Bible (BSB)
    21st Century King James Version (KJ21)
    What is the Modern King James Version (MKJV)?
    What is the Modern English Version (MEV)?
    World English Bible (WEB)
    Revised English Bible (REB)
    Jerusalem Bible (JB)
    New American Bible (NAB)
    The Living Bible (TLB)
    The Message (MSG)
    Pure Word Bible (PWB)
    Young’s Literal Translation (YLT)
    Wycliffe Bible
    Tyndale Bible
    Coverdale Bible
    Matthew Bible
    Great Bible
    The Bishops' Bible
    Douay-Rheims Version (DRV)
    What is the Luther Bible?
    Geneva Bible
    https://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-versions.html

    So I hope this has adequately answered your question, and thanks for asking your question it was indeed a pleasure for me to respond to it.
     
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    Very good Brother Mitt.. I evaluate everything it's accordance with the Scriptures, if it contradicts Scripture. then it is not true and the ultimate source is the Father of Lies.
     
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    Thanks Brother Todd! Thanks for your well said, sage input...always appreciative of them!
     
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    Do you want to accept helping Jesus do his next genocide of man? Armageddon?

    That last of yours is true, but few of us are genocidal, homophobic and misogynous, --- the way your genocidal but oh so good god is.

    Regards
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    Much on genocide, homophobia and misogyny has been written.

    Most of it negative, yet Christians adore those character traits.

    Can you explain why?

    Regards
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    Your bible belies what you say.

    Liar comes to mind, but you lie so often that you don't care.

    It shows Jesus being chosen. That is not the same as volunteering.

    Do I need to get you the quote?

    Regards
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    That was during his pre-theory of general relativity discovery days when he didn't believe in a living personal God.

    But soon after his theory of general relativity discovery he was quoted saying,

    "I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts; the rest are details."

    He finally realized there was indeed a living personal God who created the universe and everything in it and so he wanted to know how He (God) created this world.

    It would be nonsensical for him to be asking nature how it created this world, with nature responding back to him with its explanation and thoughts...etc. That would be absurd.

    Does nature have "thoughts"?...ah....nope!

    So one of our most admired and respected theoretical physicist Albert Einstein who developed the theory of general relativity, finally believed/realized there was indeed a Creator, an Almighty God who created the universe. Albert probably began to appreciate the first two verses of the Holy Bible as truth and nothing but truth! Oh and of course the rest of the Holy Bible as well because he became a deeply religious man.

    “Peter Bucky—the son of one of his few intimate friends, grew up knowing Einstein and often chauffeured him—writes that Einstein ‘composed a number of songs to honor God, which I heard him sing to himself many times.

    We Read in Scripture:

    The Account of Creation

    1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 The earth was formless and empty, and darkness covered the deep waters. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters. Genesis 1:1-2 NLT
     
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    It always amazes me how some people can’t see how very ****ed up the above is.

    1. You deserve to suffer forever? Why? Because you must have done something bad one time. And if you didn’t? Well your ancestor did, so you should suffer. Eternal suffering for finite wrongdoing.

    2. That “wrongdoing” doesn’t even have to be anything unethical. Mere disobedience to the cosmic dictator counts.

    3. You can escape this punishment that you so very much deserve, because somebody else, an innocent volunteer offers to suffer in your place. So you won’t be punished. And somehow you escaping taking this personal responsibility is just(??).

    4. This person who “died for the sins of all mankind” then rises again, so it’s more like having a bad weekend for your sins.
     
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    As usual - a terrible answer from the fundamentalist snake charmer site trying to apologize for all the changes made to the Bible by mans hand over the years .. desperately trying to edit Israel's belief in the divine pantheon - out of the Bible - as you have been shown on numerous occasions.

    KJV Deut 32:43
    LXX Deut 32:43

    "O heavens, rejoice with Him
    Bow to Him, all sons of the divine


    O nations, rejoice with His people
    and let all angels of the divine strengthen themselves in Him.


    For He’ll avenge the blood of His sons,
    be vengeful, and wreak vengeance and recompense justice on his foes
    And the Lord will Cleanse His people’s land"


    So Mitt - Skill testing "Tough Question" Who's land does God say it is ?

    and one more - what happened to all the other divinities - "sons of th divine" in the KJV ?
     
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    Well I really don't know about that if they have equally as much or more so faith than theists but what I do know/believe because of my faith in Our Creator Almighty God is that their faith is on the wrong side of the faith totem pole.

    They will be saved in that not so hospitable place where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth separated from Our Creator Almighty God for all eternity if that's what you mean...then yeah, they will be saved there.

    But it's more appropriate to say they will be condemned there instead of "saved" there. "Saved" is usually reserved to identify Christians who will spend their eternity in Our Creator Almighty God's Kingdom of Heaven to live there happily ever after in blissful joy!

    We Read In Scripture:

    4 He will wipe every tear from their eyes, and there will be no more death or sorrow or crying or pain. All these things are gone forever.” Revelation 21:4 NLT

    Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ said,

    16 “For this is how God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life. 17 God sent his Son into the world not to judge the world, but to save the world through him.

    18 “There is no judgment against anyone who believes in him. But anyone who does not believe in him has already been judged for not believing in God’s one and only Son. 19 And the judgment is based on this fact: God’s light came into the world, but people loved the darkness more than the light, for their actions were evil. 20 All who do evil hate the light and refuse to go near it for fear their sins will be exposed. 21 But those who do what is right come to the light so others can see that they are doing what God wants.” John 3:16-21 NLT

    The Narrow Door

    22 Jesus went through the towns and villages, teaching as he went, always pressing on toward Jerusalem. 23 Someone asked him, “Lord, will only a few be saved?”

    He replied, 24 “Work hard to enter the narrow door to God’s Kingdom, for many will try to enter but will fail. 25 When the master of the house has locked the door, it will be too late. You will stand outside knocking and pleading, ‘Lord, open the door for us!’ But he will reply, ‘I don’t know you or where you come from.’ 26 Then you will say, ‘But we ate and drank with you, and you taught in our streets.’ 27 And he will reply, ‘I tell you, I don’t know you or where you come from. Get away from me, all you who do evil.’

    28 “There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, for you will see Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and all the prophets in the Kingdom of God, but you will be thrown out. 29 And people will come from all over the world—from east and west, north and south—to take their places in the Kingdom of God. 30 And note this: Some who seem least important now will be the greatest then, and some who are the greatest now will be least important then.” Luke 13:22-30 NLT
     
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    push come to shove, theists have a secular record of JC and his death as a heretic, which as far as evidence is concerned seems to lean slightly in favor of the theist camp.
     
  21. Mitt Ryan

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    Hi Koko, thanks for your input, yes I agree with your statement. Hey I've read many of your posts and to me in my humble opinion your are a very wise intelligent person, a very good debater who wins arguments that's why I liked many of your posts.

    I know you have said that you are agnostic, and agnostics are very truthful, honest people, most of the ones I've come across. So you are what we call straddling the fence...so to speak...lol

    You would be the type because you are very wise, intelligent and honest to someday become a Christian, a follower of Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ....just sayin! Ok take care Koko!
     
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    All because we follow our natures, that the religious think comes from God.

    We are thus punished for being and doing exactly what god's great plan tells us to do and that we cannot deviate from.

    Catch 22 and **** all souls, says god.

    Christians are too stupid to see it.

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    He, nor you, can win an argument that justifies you abdicating your responsibility for your sins.

    That is quite immoral and you immorally think that Jesus would have you sin to be saved.

    You follow Satan.

    Let me remind you two fools of what Jesus taught.

    On Jesus dying for Christians. Try to think in a moral way.

    It takes quite an inflated ego to think a god would actually die for us, after condemning us unjustly in the first place.

    Christians have swallowed a lie and don’t care how evil they make Jesus to keep their feel good get out of hell free card.

    It is a lie, first and foremost, because, like it or not, having another innocent person suffer or die for the wrongs you have done, --- so that you might escape responsibility for having done them, --- is immoral.

    To abdicate your personal responsibility for your actions or use a scapegoat is immoral.

    Christians also have to ignore what Jesus, as a Jewish Rabbi, would have taught his people.

    Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

    Deuteronomy 24:16 (ESV) "Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin.

    Psa 49;7 None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him:

    There is no way that Christians would teach their children to use a scapegoat to escape their just punishments and here you are promoting doing just that.

    Jesus is just a smidge less immoral than his demiurge genocidal father, and here you are trying to put him as low in moral fiber as Yahweh. Tsk tsk.

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    Let me just answer the question, "Why is Christianity the one and only true religion"? The way your question is framed it's kind of incoherent in my view.

    Religion is man's attempt to reach up to God, but Christianity teaches that God has reached down to man...so Christianity is not a religion in this sense so to speak.

    So that alone that God has reached down to us is the basis of why Christianity is the one true religion, and it stands alone.

    Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ who is the Son of God, who is the second Person of the Trinity, took on human flesh and during His time on earth was literally God reaching out to us.

    We Read in Scripture:

    Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ said,

    36 why do you call it blasphemy when I say, ‘I am the Son of God’? After all, the Father set me apart and sent me into the world. 37 Don’t believe me unless I carry out my Father’s work. 38 But if I do his work, believe in the evidence of the miraculous works I have done, even if you don’t believe me. Then you will know and understand that the Father is in me, and I am in the Father.” John 10:36-38 NLT

    30 “The Father and I are one.” John 10:30 NLT

    Our Creator Almighty God revealed many things to us in His Best Selling Book of All-Time, the Holy Bible. He revealed to us His first created human being was a man, who is essentially our first biological dad Adam. Then came our first biological mom Eve. So they were our first biological parents. Makes logical sense, it all started from the first two, a male and a female, and now look at us today, a tad over 7 billion people world-wide. Wonder how many people in total if we were to add all those who have passed...wow! it has to be astronomical! Yes, when our Creator Almighty God told us to be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth we surely didn't disappoint Him that's for sure...lol

    He also told us to govern the earth and reign over the fish is the sea, the birds in the sky, and all the animals that scurry along the ground which we have been doing.

    We Read in Scripture:

    26 Then God said, “Let us make human beings in our image, to be like us. They will reign over the fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, the livestock, all the wild animals on the earth, and the small animals that scurry along the ground.”

    27 So God created human beings in his own image.
    In the image of God he created them;
    male and female he created them.

    28 Then God blessed them and said, “Be fruitful and multiply. Fill the earth and govern it. Reign over the fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, and all the animals that scurry along the ground.” Genesis 1:26-28 NLT

    Buddha, Mohammed, Confucius, and all others never claimed to be God, they never resurrected from the dead, their bones lie dormant in the ground somewhere. So of all the religions in the world we can say that Christianity is at the top as being the one and only true religion. All others don't take you home to Our Creator Almighty God. One has to believe in His Son Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ to one day go home to be with Our Creator Almighty God is His Kingdom of Heaven to live there forever and ever in blissful joy and harmony!

    We Read in Scripture:

    4 He will wipe every tear from their eyes, and there will be no more death or sorrow or crying or pain. All these things are gone forever.” Revelation 21:4 NLT

    Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ said,

    6 Jesus told him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me." John 14:6 NLT

    25 Jesus told her, “I am the resurrection and the life. Anyone who believes in me will live, even after dying. 26 Everyone who lives in me and believes in me will never ever die. Do you believe this, Martha?” John 11:25-26 NLT
     
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    Not everyone will see things the way you do, you might ask why not? Well because not all people will be like you to misunderstand what they see. Your daddy satan/devil has blinded your mind and others who think like you.

    There are many things in this world that we do not understand. Often, people doubt God’s existence because they do not understand or agree with the things He does and allows. However, as finite human beings we should not expect to be able to comprehend an infinite God.

    We Read in Scripture:

    33 Oh, how great are God’s riches and wisdom and knowledge! How impossible it is for us to understand his decisions and his ways!
    34 For who can know the Lord’s thoughts? Who knows enough to give him advice? Romans 11:33-34 NLT

    4 Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don’t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God. 5 You see, we don’t go around preaching about ourselves. We preach that Jesus Christ is Lord, and we ourselves are your servants for Jesus’ sake. 2 Corinthians 4:4-5 NLT

    Our Creator Almighty God because He is eternal, He sees things in an eternal perspective, whether it be rewards or punishments. His thoughts are nothing like our thoughts and His ways are far beyond anything we could imagine. Just as the heavens are higher than the earth, His ways are higher than our ways and His thoughts higher than our thoughts.

    We Read in Scripture:

    8 “My thoughts are nothing like your thoughts,” says the Lord. “And my ways are far beyond anything you could imagine. 9 For just as the heavens are higher than the earth, so my ways are higher than your ways and my thoughts higher than your thoughts. Isaiah 55:8-9 NLT
     
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