Part 39 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. trevorw2539

    trevorw2539 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is no such proof. There is no evidence to prove Jesus rose from trhe dead. What you have is a book of words. I can show you that Harry Potter rescued Ginnie Weasley from Tom Riddle (Voldemort) in the secret chamber under Hogwarts. It's all there written down for you to see. We don't know who wrote the Gospels, but we do know who wrote Harry Potter so the story must be true.
     
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    I trust the one true God, whom I know by his spirits knowledge of me. How many Gods do you suppose were the cause of Mary's conception.
    Why can't the truth be plain and simple. Why confuse it with sophistry. What is lost by acceptance of the truth. Deceit is always abundant. If you shut out the storm, what is lost in the comfort and quaintness of peace? What matters is the truth.
     
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    Doesn't make any difference what it presented to you, your fragile minds just can't handle the truth.
     
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    Do you have any scientific evidence that some rotting corpses crawled out of their graves and wandered around down-town Jerusalem when Jesus was executed (Matt 27:52-53), and if so, where did they go to after they wandered around Jerusalem, and did they go fishing too (John 21)?
    Or is that just another imaginative story in a book like Harry Potter or Tolkien's stories?
     
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    Where was it written they were rotted?

    You are but a figment of God's imagination.
     
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    If they were dead, then their corpses were in varying stages of decay including some skeletons. Or were they vampires and just sleeping during the day in order to wander around Jerusalem at night?
    What scientific evidence do you have to support your claim, or is that just words in a book too?
     
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    I have no evidence for God but my testimony that I know he lives. And he isn't only the biblical God, but the eternal God of all creation.
     
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    Where does he live, and have you ever seen him?
     
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    Posting a video . one that does not even say what you are claiming "Defacto Proof it was Jesus - Proof of the Resurrection" is really absurd -- again with the Parlor Tricks .. guess where the pearl is under which of 3 shells ..

    Base not the foundation for your faith on Snake Charm Serum Brother Todd .. instead hearken to the life giving word of Lord Jesus and on this rock your foundation build..

    Brother Todd --- Mr. "Fragile minds just can't handle the Truth" - Let us understand one thing .. if nothing else Brother Gift = Gifted Scientist .... Brother T = Not Giftedone -- Let us not confuse you .. with Me .. one of those fragile minds who can not handle the Truth of the living word of Jesus and so they run from the word of the Father towards parlor tricks .. and snake charm serum as opposed to me who at every instance implores you to the Truth .. the One Lord .. the One Christ .. and not that trickster God you have chosen to follow .. the God of Earthly Pleasure and free passes through the pearly gates ..and so you did not hesitate .. to follow Brother Mitt into the snake pit..

    Yes Brother Trev .. pixie dust and shake charms .. dressed up as "The word of the Father"


    Well good you dropped by Brother Mitt .. Brother Todd has another question .. hopefully you can help with this one .. is about basing one's salvation on parlor tricks and pixie dust .. a very unsound foundation you agree .. one built on sand you see .. can you help Brother Todd to find a better foundation .. one based on the rock of the Lords Word .. and not that freaky snake charmer stuff ..
     
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    Why you say you have no evidence for God .. when you claim to be able to communicate directly with God. Having such communication is evidence for God ..
    Well .. first off .. is not a "He" .. although it seemed as such .. but was just a presence .. and not sure if this place was where it lived .. but the world was like a Salvador Dali painting. but .. it wasn't like I could converse with the Most High .. was asked a question in my head .. Do you want to stay or go back- I responded in my head .. go back .. . in the morning woke up -- Fever that nearly killed me .. "or did kill me ???" completely gone ..

    Now ..whether that is evidence of God or a the vivid imagination of a 9 yr old back in the 70's .. we do not know .. but Direct Communication .. that is something .. now we can finally prove God exists of Injeun will just ask God to give us some answers to a few "Tough Questions" :)
     
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    I don't know where you live, and have never seen you. So your existence is somewhat uncertain to me. But I know that God lives by the visitation of his spirit who awakened me to a remembrance of him and to the knowledge that my true life is in him.
     
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    IOW you have no evidence that gods exist except in your imagination and dreams.
     
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    Row row row the boat .. gently down the stream .. merrily merrily merrily merrily life is but a dream :)

    Are we now a Philosopher Brother Todd ..
     
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    Right . and truth is clearly lacking .. not just truth though .. sincerity , integrity .. The spirits in which you trust are not from the womb of Mary .. Your one true God commands that we kill the child for the sin of the Father Yes or No. Is this the God of the Bible you are referring to ? .. the God that you claim to know .. but know not the name of this God .. .. or is this God not of the Bible .. Shiva or Thor perhaps .. and do you still claim to be able to communicate directly with this God ..
     
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    This just shows the Turin Shroud is from a crucified man around the time of the FIRST CENTURY.. No-one knows how big Jesus was, How tall he was. nothing about him physically. So this proves nothing. It could be anyone whose family cared enough about him.
     
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    What is this "God of the Bible" stuff you keep repeating. You are caught up in the brambles. God doesn't live in the Bible. There is one God who is the God of everything. If he covenants with the Jews, and they keep records in scripture. It is to keep him in remembrance for those who love him, not as a means for his enemy to fault or crucify him. That would be an aberration or counter intuitive to purpose. But if it's considered charity to advocate for the vanquished, then it becomes us to stand in advocacy with Jesus Christ for the salvation of mankind.
     
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    It was a one time, irreproducible event.. the time, the place and the wounds all match what has been stated in the Bible for 2000 years. Prove you exist outside of the hateful stuff you post.
     
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    So what I know... or surmise... matter does not exist without motion. and cannot be divided past a certain smallness, hence it is digital. In the beginning God said.... therefore His voice added motion, an essential ingredient of matter. God's voice created the universes. I believe He imagined the whole of universe before he spoke, all of the variations possible by freewill, every "butterfly" effect. Nothing is impossible for God.
    Last part i just a guess, but if God so willed, any part of history and any event in history and especially any person could vanish with no trace and no thought that they had ever existed... complete annihilation, except for their immortal soul. These non-believing fools face an eternity of hell, and for what? Even Pascual figured if a Christian is wrong, then there is nothingness and it doesn't matter, but if an atheist is wrong... it's eternal anguish. So who are the smart guys now, who are the rational beings?
     
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    i see Him everytime I look at Creation.
     
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    They reject anything to do with God for if they accept what is presented to them that would mean a change in their lifestyles which is something they cherish the most and are not willing to easily give it up. Yes, turning away from their sinful lifestyle habits are just too hard for them to give up because that is what it would take to believe in Almighty God and so they continue to live in disbelief...so sad indeed!...for their eternal destiny that awaits them will not be a pleasant one when they will be separated from God for all eternity to receive the just punishments for their sins that they have committed their entire lives while living on Almighty God's green earth.

    But anyway brother Todd, I thoroughly enjoyed the video you presented. I was riveted for the whole 1 hour, 2 minutes and 54 seconds presentation of this video. So interesting what the nuclear engineer Bob Rucker had to say in regard to the Shroud of Turin. Basically he said through scientific investigations the Shroud is the burial cloth of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

    Excellent point brother Injeun...here!here!

    Ok thanks brothers Todd & Injeun for your posts. Keep up the great work! :salute:
     
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    Indeed there are those who believe that God does live in the Bible -- .. that "God's Word" is contained in the Bible .. either in part or in whole .. but OK .. I get that Your God does not live in the Bible .. the one you think who is the only God .. and so none of the covenants in the Bible are relevant to your God.

    Which covenant is from your God .. if any ? Prophets .. if any .. book or books containing the teachings of this God "if any" ?

    The "brambles" here is this "God of Everything" gibberish .. meaningless bravado about that which you don't know .. my God is "everything" and since my God is much better than You .. your God doesn't exist. .. ridiculous silliness of a thought stopping kind .. which we have discussed before.

    Is it every Book Injeun .. every book contains the teachings of your God .. because your God is Everything .. :) Right Ha ha ha.. Crucified .. this meaningless God of Everything.. or did you mean to say . God of Nothing .. which is a synonym for meaningless in this context Right !

    I await your answer .. and also since you claim direct communication with this God .. and presumably there are others like you .. has any of this been written down over the last 24 years .. lets keep it recent to this millennium .. new revelations ford the 3rd millennium
     
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    Who is "They that reject anything to do with God" - via his Son Lord Jesus Brother Mitt ?! "for if they accept what is presented to them that would mean a change in their" Belief system .. "which is something they cherish the most and are not willing to easily give it up" -- to quote

    Is this not a fine log of projection Brother Mitt -- who is the "they" who reject the teachings of Jesus .. as is predicted in Scripture Matt 5-7 . These "wolves in sheeps clothing" crying out "Lord Lord" -- but these snake charmers .. worshipers of Idol Martin know him naught .. rejecting the life giving word of Jesus ... for the misinterpreted musings of Paul -- and in fact usurping "The Word" .. with the hand of man .. that mans hand under the influence of Ha Satan...

    Tell me it is not so Brothers Mitt .. some round here .been guilty of this doing .. right Brothers Todd & Injeun .. doing a little log in own eye exercise on the side projecting these dark actions on to others.. the mysterious "They" who reject Lord Jesus .. and in doing so .. rejecting God's Word .. rejecting God .. the Father .. Hallowed be thy name ... and those who do not know the Father .. include those who do not know his name.

    Is this the "They" Mitt .. Todd .. Injeun .. anyone know this God that y'all love to rejects name ? I mean if you are going to blaspheme .. should at least know the God's name Right ?
    Me Too .. just like Simba in the Lion King .. cept its a her not a hymn mate :)
    Yes Injeun .. blaspheme the Lord Jesus all you like .. it matters not to my salvation .. but let it not be said I did not at least warn of the hazzard on the Golf Course !
     
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    And does he have blue or brown eyes?
     
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    You are gullible. You believe all you are told that agrees with your belief. The video does not claim this was Jesus shroud. Just that it was a genuine shroud. The wounds are similar to wounds of many crucified men. No-one knows what Jesus looked like, how big he was etc. That's why we have so many paintings of different looking Jesus's. Jesus. The one in the shroud looks much older than a 33 year old man.
     
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    Our Creator Almighty God is Omnipresent and so He is everywhere.

    Ok thanks Kode for your post.
     

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