Pastor CAUGHT Selling Weed & Mushrooms

Hmm ,,, Another supernatural know-it-all is caught in a compromising situation but this time his pants were zipped. So no zipper-gate this time. Ha Ha Ha ... What do we make of this???
Was he using "God's house" as a cover for peddling narcotics??? What a novel ruse!!! WTF???

 

Is smoking weed a sin?

 

Dealing drugs is a crime, and willfully committing crimes is sinful.

 

What if I don’t inhale?

 

Then you can be anything, even president. This day and age it might even improve your chances.

 

I’m from Soviet Canuckistan.

 

People have been using weed and mushrooms for to treat emotional issues and have spiritual experiences since before recorded history.Banning them is far more of a 'sin' than using them could ever be.

Granted they need to be used responsibly, but thats up to the individual.

 

Do you have a scriptural reference for that claim?

Romans 13 is contextually problematic, btw, if thats where you were going.

 

Romans 13 makes is pretty plain: "Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities". That rule applies always, except then man's law contradicts God's law.

Is pot smoking sinful if it has been legalized? The Bible says Christians should remain sober minded, so I guess being baked out of your mind falls in the same category as being hammered from booze. And yes, there is a difference in drinking a beer or two vs being so drunk you can't walk.

If I had cancer and my doctor advised me to try it and see if it helps, I would have no problem with it.

 

Hummm. Is this fundamentally different than a shaman taking you on a psychedelic journey really? Hell with so much stuff out their just burning through the population, weed and shrooms are the least of our problems. They have been around generations.

 

That's what God made weed for.

Now go eat your mushrooms....

 

I've heard shrooms are an extremely spiritual experience. Weed doesn't do much for me except make me relax, crave Funyuns, and think Seth Rogan is funny.

 

have no issue with anyone using either of those

time to end the war on drugs

 

Romans 13 (YLT)
Let every soul to the higher authorities be subject, for there is no authority except from God, and the authorities existing are appointed by God,

2 so that he who is setting himself against the authority, against God's ordinance hath resisted; and those resisting, to themselves shall receive judgment.

3 For those ruling are not a terror to the good works, but to the evil; and dost thou wish not to be afraid of the authority? that which is good be doing, and thou shalt have praise from it,

4 for of God it is a ministrant to thee for good; and if that which is evil thou mayest do, be fearing, for not in vain doth it bear the sword; for of God it is a ministrant, an avenger for wrath to him who is doing that which is evil.

5 Wherefore it is necessary to be subject, not only because of the wrath, but also because of the conscience,

6 for because of this also pay ye tribute; for servants of God they are, on this very thing attending continually;

7 render, therefore, to all [their] dues; to whom tribute, the tribute; to whom custom, the custom; to whom fear, the fear; to whom honour, the honour.

Romans 13 was part of a series of letters sent from Paul to some Christians living in the Roman Empire in the AD50s. This was right before (or perhaps at the beginning of) the reign of Nero, when Rome was still (generally) concerned with maintaining order, stability and rule of law. It was shortly after these letters that Nero went nuts and took the Roman govt with him. This was also just before Rome (or Nero, really) started targetting Christians for execution.

While its widely suggested that Romans 13 pertains to 'all governments', there isnt really any scriptural basis to make that assumption. Not in the original text anyway. Later 'translations' might word it differently to suggest that conclusion, but those versions were heavily influenced by Roman Emporer Constantine some 200 years later, who decided that Christianity would be a more useful tool for political and social manipulation than Paganism had been, and 'converted' The Roman Empire to his version of Christianity on that basis.

But Paul's original writings can only objectively be viewed in the context of advice to early Christians in the Roman Empire prior to the reign of Nero, assuming we can accept that some parts of the Bible were included for historical context and the entire thing isn't to be taken 100% literally word for word. 'Bible literalism' is more often a practice of people interested in criticizing Christianity (or using it to manipulate people) than it is a practice of Christians, because Bible literalism doesnt really make any sense and creates of multitude of simple and obvious contradictions.

Sin, I think, is a bit more complicated than we make it as well. Or perhaps its more simple than we make it... Sin is violating the Laws of God which are recorded in the 10 Commandments. Nothing in there about being intoxicated. Sure there's plenty of scriptural basis for God not liking us getting intoxicated, but I dont think its a 'sin' in-and-of itself. It does tend to render us more susceptible to sinning, and it could be argued that seeking to lose self control and engage in sin could be sinful itself, and thus people who seek intoxication so they can let themselves sin are probably sinning just by vecoming intoxicated. But for people who maintain their self control and/or intoxicate themselves without violating God's laws, I don't think there's any scriptural basis for that being sinful.I also don't think its a sin to disobey the govt, even if that govt is promoting order and prosperity, if your breaking (man's) laws without breaking God's laws. Though I think it would be reasonable to say that God generally frowns upon breaking man's laws.

 

I have read it many times. I told you.

No, there is nothing in 10 commandments about drinking. There is nothing about rape or sodomy either, but then again, those commandments are the mosaic law while we are under new covenant.

What are you arguing anyway? That committing crimes is not sinful?

PS I do agree about the instruction about intoxication, and I think its there because drunkenness' opens doo to all kinds of silliness: Angry words, fights, adultery, accidents etc

 

I heard Jesus turned water into wine

 

My SB church told told me it was just turned into grape juice, though the text provided other details showing this was a bullshit excuse.

 

My argument is that committing crimes against man's law is not necessarily sinful. Clearly God values the order and stability that rulers tend to uphold, but violating man's law is not like violating God's law ...though certainly its common that the two are aligned, historically anyway.
Obviously God doesn't view intoxication or disobeying the govt fondly. Its like premarital sex, homosexuality, gambling and even telling jokes to some extent. These things arent technically sins in my view, though they tend to be unwise and clearly God doesn't like them. But I think thats a different category than 'damnable to hell.'

 

This guy knows how to get people like me to church.

 

Like speeding? Sure, there are infractions like that which would not be sinful.

 

Speeding could be sinful. Speeding through a neighborhood where kids are playing because you don't care if you happen to hit one- I think thats a sin even if none ofem get hit. Clearly you're not loving thy neighbor while doing that...

But if you're speeding to the hospital with someone whose about to die, the opposite is probably true. Its still a risk, but the intent is to help.

Man's laws can't really allow for such things. We have to judge people without knowing their intent. We can't really know the true purpose behind what someone does. God can.

Obviously God doesn't view intoxication or disobeying the govt fondly. Its like premarital sex, homosexuality, gambling and even telling jokes to some extent. These things arent technically sins as I understand it, though they tend to be unwise and clearly God doesn't like them. But I think thats a different category than 'damnable to hell.'

 

Then you may not be able to exhale?!

 

The only thing which will damn you to hell is going to your grave after having rejected God while living.

 

A blasphemous falsehood coupled with fallacy. Stellar

 

Think there is something in there about rape .. so wrong on that front .. and there is no new covenant .. wrong on that account as well.