People furious as star athlete insults Islamic prophet Muhammad

Sorry, I meant to word that differently. Like as in if you are Islamic and know the hedonistic culture in USA thats just getting crazier and crazier every day, why move here?; I mean if you are gonna be in a place where you will be offended at every turn (even by heaven forbid a woman showing some ankle) then why the heck even come?

 

Muslims have similar beliefs as Christians, in fact both believe in the exact same God, Jesus, Mary and a host of other characters

http://www.islam-guide.com/ch3-10.htm

(Remember) when the angels said, “O Mary, God gives you good news of a word from Him (God), whose name is the Messiah Jesus, son of Mary, revered in this world and the Hereafter, and one of those brought near (to God). He will speak to the people from his cradle and as a man, and he is of the righteous.” She said, “My Lord, how can I have a child when no mortal has touched me?” He said, “So (it will be). God creates what He wills. If He decrees a thing, He says to it only, ‘Be!’ and it is.” (Quran, 3:45-47)

 

Muslim migration has been relatively recent as opposed to Hindu or Sikh (in UK) so I'm guessing most of the Muslims are relatively recent refugees from lands being obliterated by NATO. In London for example, it all Iraqis and Afghans honestly.

So that said, they're probably war refugees or NATO snitches. Either way, when they get here (the west) they probably expected something else idk what lol.

 

You disagree that Islam, unlike the other major faiths, is a political movement? Do tell. As far as the "single historic example" jive - okey dokey, Smokey:

When Charles Martel fought off a Muslim invasion at the Battle of Tours in 732, it wasn't a "single historic example." When Constantinople had its name changed to Istanbul in 1453, it wasn't the result of a friendly negotiation, nor the byproduct of "single historic example." When the Venetians fought an invading Muslim fleet at Lepanto in 1532, it wasn't a "single historic example." When the Austrians and Germans banded together to do it again in 1683, they discovered to their misery it wasn't a "single historic example." When Thomas Jefferson and John Adams failed in their attempt to negotiate with Muslim states in the Mediterranean, they were not responding to a "single historic example."

Every POTUS of my lifetime - on both sides - have taken pains to identify the moderate, modern Muslim nations. Saudia Arabia figures prominently on that list. In moderate Saudi Arabia, distributing Bibles will land you in one of their moderate prisons. Rejecting the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad (Propeller Beanie Upon Him) will earn you a public beheading in Riyadh. Today. Not 700 years ago.

There is no Christian analogue to Sharia law as practiced by the moderate House of Saud - never mind the less moderate states like Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Somalia, Nigeria, Yemen, Egypt, Pakistan, et al. Nor are there contemporary Christian corollaries to 9/11, Charlie Hebdo, Salmon Rushdie, Barcelona, Ariana Grande's concert, Boston Marathon, Bastille Day in Nice, Madrid, etc etc etc etc...

There is also no Western parallel to United Nations Resolution 16/18 - the latest in a long line of anti-blasphemy resolutions calling upon the entire world to criminalize any and all criticism of Islam. Its signatories include every Muslim nation on earth, including those whom you & your ilk assure us are “moderate” members of the world community. Their governments believe you should be punished, should you spout off against anything they do.

Islam - unlike the other major faiths - is not just a religion. Its followers have slaughtered hundreds of millions in the pursuit of theocracy for more than a millennium, and they're still at it. Denial of that reality is - at best - breathtakingly ignorant. At worst, it's tacit support of their objectives.

 

You read it correctly. Glad it entertained you.

 

Not even remotely close to the thousands of people jihadists/takfirists have killed in the name of Islam.

 

And when we catch them, we put them away for life. See: Eric Rudolph. That's categorically not the case in the Muslim world. They didn't take out Bin Laden. We did.

 

I disagree that Islam is one singular movement at all. There are certainly political movements, be they governments or independent, which have Islam at the core and plenty more where it is a lesser element. That is true of other religions as well, though it is undeniable that Islam typically has brought more significant and extreme issues than other religions. The point is that those political movements are far from the be-all and end-all of Islam. There are plenty of non-political Muslim organisations and millions of individual Muslims who have no connection with any of the political ones. It is the big political organisations that get all of the attention though.

Islam clearly needs to modernise and reform, and is much further behind in that process that most other religions, for all sorts of socio-political, political and geographical reasons. The problem is that if Islam is treated as a singular entity, judged on the actions of the worst and most extreme, even looking way back in history, it is presented as uniformly and irreconcilably bad. On that basis, how can all of those Muslims who would like to see their faith modernise and improve be encouraged and supported in doing that?

 

The sports star from the OP is wrong. Since God doesn't exist he can't be the one true path. LOL!

 

Do you care about equality? Point stands that people let the Amish and orthodox Jews be in the US, while have a problem with orthodox Muslims... while they all have rather much the same degrading perception on what the place of women are in society. So those people are not treated equally, and you're part of that.

 

because you get away rather easy by being anti-Muslim, unlike being anti-Semitic.
While Arabs are Semitic people as well.

 

Oh get real. They support it. They use their Torah texts to show they got their divine right to live there.

 

The west, particularly the UK appears to have a hierarchy of racism, with anti semitism deemed the worst offence and anti black racism as the least serious. This was the conclusion given by an independent inquiry into politics in the UK entitled, The Forde Report.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/forde-report-jeremy-corbyn-keir-starmer-b2130074.html?amp

 

Many white Jewish women in UK are not allowed to work, watch TV or read newspapers. Where's the outrage in MSM?

 

It happened. All you can do is accept it. They might have been high-fiving since God was on their side, while the Egyptians were keeping them as slaves, but can you blame them?

 

yup.
Indonesia is by far the biggest muslim nation. And your pic shows I am right about the average Muslim.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_views_on_homosexuality
the majority of Orthodox Judaism puts male-male anal sex in the category of yehareg ve'al ya'avor, "die rather than transgress"

 

It's been many years since I read the Old Testament, but I seem to remember God giving people up to their desires and urges all the time. It seems God was more about "yeah, whatever, I'm going to look away." After God got over his murderous rages, he seemed to mellow out.

 

Woke ends up to be more and more a code word of demanding to that you get to discriminate / mock / mistreat people. And the black community knows it.

 

It's very safe to say it did not happen at all. There is simply no evidence that a lot of Jews were enslaved in Egypt, the 7 plagues etc etc. ... while those people wrote down all their affairs. But that hasn't stopped the religious Jewish community behave like ISIS with their claims on the "holy land", and not forget the Christian community helping them out with it at the expense of Arabs.

 

whatever

 

Neither is Christianity. So what? You have to reach back nearly a millennia for the Crusades.

For 9/11, Charlie Hebdo, Salmon Rushdie, Barcelona, Ariana Grande, Boston Marathon, Bastille Day, Madrid, etc, all you have to do is pick up a newspaper.

In the here & now, one is objectively worse than the other, by an order of magnitude.

 

Many would say that these white Jewish Europeans were invented in 1200ad and are in no way related to the biblical Jews of Aegypt.

 

I'd say Iraq, Syria and Libya alone, obliterated by Christian militant warlords, like Blair bush macron Cameron et al is by far the more serious transgression than islam in the entirety of its religious history

 

You said Islam is a political movement. How can that be true if Islam isn't a movement at all?

I totally agree that the extremist terrorist incidents you refer to are real, recent and valid, and they're all at least in part committed by people who think they support Islam or justify them on the basis of their interpretation of Islam. The difference is how we address these facts, along with all the others you don't mention. Do we use is as a basis to condemn Islam as a singular concept, wholly and unconditionally with no apparent redemption, carrying the unspoken implication that the only resolution is to somehow eliminate the faith entirely? Or do we consider Islam as something that could and should be reformed and could then continue as legitimate part of civilised society, just like most other major religions have been doing?

My opinion, based on observation of all news and history (not just the dramatic tragedies) and, maybe more significantly, based on my personal interactions and relationships with many people who happen to be Muslim, I feel the latter is very much possible. And I don't think that the subset of the facts you're choosing to exclusively focus on is a valid reason to change my opinion.

 

Careful, I along with many insult christianity and christians. I have absolutely no problem at all respecting Christianity and Christians, it's those others that I have utmost contempt for.

Yes, my punctuation is intentional and correct.