Physicians who post COVID-19 vaccine misinformation may lose license, medical panel says

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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    True.

    However, I suppose they might sign something promising that false practice in this case will be prosecuted.
     
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    We.are still collecting data on adverse events on the vaccine and there is many coming in. The list is growing at a staggering level, and yes, they are rare in nature, but growing. That's not disinformation but fact as the vaccines are STILL in clinical trials. Just have a HUGE patient pool.

    There has been Bels palsy, Guillaume Barre syndrome, myocarditis, blood clotting and many more and we still do not fully understand potential autoimmune disorders in the long term. And for God sakes, let hope that doesn't happen or getting COVID will be the least of your problems.

    I've never claimed the vaccines as dangerous, but being in the field of clinical trials and reviewing data, ther is a trend and I rely on data. Ww normally capture as little as 3 years, to one study that has been open since 2005 and has 28 arms toed to it.

    I've stated here MUTLIPLE times that mRNA therapy will revolutionize the medical field. However, even thought it's been in clinical trials for 30+ years, we've never had an approved mRNA treatment.

    I vae 3 trials currently in cancer clinical trials. 2 are still in phase I and 1 which finally moved to phase II, but the science is still growing.

    All I'm saying and have stated ad nausea is I need data. Data will tell us allot but it takes time to gather the data needed.
     
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    Where have I said that? There is an industry standard and if you want to keep your registration you have to uphold that standard
     
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    Exactly. And the CDC/FDA is powering through them on a continuing basis. They set up this system in order to log all possible anomalies so they can get serious examination.
    Whether ANY of these preported events have to do with COVID vaccines is what is being studied. Being reported is NOT proof of that - even slightly. In fact, doctors are REQUIRED to log post-vaccine issues even when they don't believe it has to do with the vaccine.
    You can read the issues with the vaccine that the CDC/FDA has identified by looking at the CDC site, including the number and seriousness of the issue, etc.

    Then, you can divide the number of detected events by 353,000,000 doses administered in order to get the problem rate.

    Then, you can compare that to the problem rate for other drugs, the problem rate represented by COVID-19, etc.
     
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    I'm quite aware how clinical trials and adverse events work. I'm also aware that a clinical trial going from Phase I to Phase III in a matter of months is 100% unheard of. Especually an mRNA treatment.. The reason we have long renditions of phases is to data collect. If you don't think this is unprecedented, then you missing the Gorilla in the room.

    Can you tell me the last clinical trial that has gone from phase I to Phase III in a mere 10 months (on a pharmaceuticaldrug)? Can you also tell me the quickest an mRNA treatment has been approved?
     
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    If you know all of this why have you not done the research?


    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-03626-1

    We were lucky - if it had been, say Hendra virus at present we would be looking at a far emptier world, one with virtually no horses and no vaccine
     
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    I don't remember you focusing on testing dimension issue in your previous posts. Did I get you confused with someone else?

    Anyway, for this particular case, the FDA decision has proven to be correct. My bet is that they were influenced by the success of mRNA development before COVID came around, by the seriousness and scope of the problem, and by the results of the large amount of testing that took place from early spring 2020 to the end of the year.

    My understanding is that some of these drug companies had their candidate mRNA vaccines created within a matter of a few short weeks of when they got the genome. That was due to the incredible progress that has been achieved in science based medicine.

    I'm pretty sure all the phases we've seen are pretty much record breaking.

    One exception might be the the polio vaccine got thorough distribution with clear dedication to getting everyone vaccinated without the pushback of antiVaxx BS. At least that's one place I'd look for competition in the distribution phase.
     
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    Amen.

    And, we're also lucky that this particular version of SARS that has caused COVID-19 was no worse than it is.

    There are versions of SARS in Asia that would have killed us at FAR higher rates had they been the ones that found their way into the human population.

    The reason we know this is because of the work done by the Hunan lab that we supported for this very reason.


    I hope we remember that.
     
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    And you should have better reading comprehension. The FDA isn't preventing anyone from using it but.....BUT....it DOES mention (just like the report you liked) that it has only been used in animals. So.....there's that but you go ahead and tell your doctor you want it.
     
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    And you can be misinformed.
     
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    I guess it all depends on what is considered "misinformation." Since this virus is new, we're all still learning. Nothing should be censored.
     
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    You should actually read more of what you post. Again, the ONE link you provided clearly states that prescribing the drugs is NOT banned. The others are just probably more of the same BS
     
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    No, you have clearly demonstrated that you don't. An abortion offers no risk to anyone else.
     
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    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

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    Do better.
     
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    Since the vaccinated can spread Covid, what's your point?
     
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    https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-cov...data-on-covid-19-vaccinations-race-ethnicity/
    As observed in prior weeks, Black and Hispanic people have received smaller shares of vaccinations compared to their shares of cases and compared to their shares of the total population in most states.

    Try again......or stop making stuff up.
     
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    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

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    Sure, and if you aren't vaccinated and get the Delta variant you're in the deep do do. But you go ahead and play stupid games.
     
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    Surely we agree some things are misinformation? Vaccines make you a magnet for example?
     
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    Do you think every doctor graduated at the top of their class. Like anything else, there are bad doctors but you seem to like what they have to say. Why?
     
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    Still have a 99.9+% survival rate. You can still die from Covid if vaccinated.
     
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    This exact same issue is going on in Canada. Here's a couple of videos that get to the heart of your OP from a press conference held by a Canadian MP.

    First one is the MP (Derek Sloan) and a professor of viral immunology (Byrum Bridle).



    This one is Dr. Patrick Phillips from the same press conference speaking about treatments (vitamin d and also ivermectin) and threats of losing his license.



    Byrum Bridle has been vocal about the risks from the vaccines. Video of him talking about it at these links.

    https://omny.fm/shows/on-point-with-alex-pierson/new-peer-reviewed-study-on-covid-19-vaccines-sugge

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.yahoo.com/amphtml/doctor-did-early-research-covid-035801303.html

    Do a little digging and you'll see that a LOT of effort is being put into debunking Byrum Bridle. Here's an extensive one. I don't find it convincing for several reasons, but YMMV.

    https://healthfeedback.org/claimrev...ection-and-vaccination-misrepresents-studies/
     
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    This says it all.
    "The list is growing at a staggering level, and yes, they are rare in nature,..."

    Rare problems does not equal "staggering"! :roflol:
     
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    Considering data is still coming in, what is the acceptable adverse events you would be comfortable with? If your child stands a .001% of dying from COVID, but a 5% chance of a heart attack, what percentage do you prefer or lasting effects to their heart?
     
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    How insane have the vaccine fascist gotten? This insane.

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