Physicians who post COVID-19 vaccine misinformation may lose license, medical panel says

I have to think on that for a while.

 

LOL!

 

Again, you may have the type of conspiracy driven dialogue you crave in the appropriate section of these forums.

 

Or information you don't want to read or even know about Hey I get it, "In for a penny in for a pound"....

 

I realize Dr. Raoult is just one doctor that you are using as an example of the fact that not all individual doctors fully agree with the CDC. BUT, this doctor is embroiled in serious accusations concerning methods and results.

So, I'll ignore your specific doctor and discuss the more general issue of the opinions of single doctors in general.

First of all, the situation of this one doctor is one of the factors that makes accepting the results of one doctor to be not advisable.

Next, none of the single individuals has the level of power of science that the CDC, WHO or other major groups of science based medicine have throughout the world.

For example, they can't run controlled testing of a magnitude that is required. They can't run meaningfully sized and designed studies involving serious scientific controls. They can't even study the experiences of thousands of other doctors in order to develop survey type results.

As for the anti-Vax crowd, they are demanding that we ignore the results of 4.5 BILLION vaccinations. So, at least for those folks, their willingness to accept ONE doctor's experience hits me as just plain disqualifying these anti-Vaxers of any opinion that they have.

 

There is absolutely nothing "fake" about that report. It's backed by the CDC, WHO, and others.

It does not ignore the use of that one substance in conjunction with others. Science based medicine has found no advantage regardless of how it is used - alone, in conjunction with others, or as a prophylactic rather than treatment.

I don't really care if you think you know more about zinc than science based medicine does. If you think you know something, please cite it. Vague references to other countries are just more nonsense.

And, don't bother citing Brazil. What's going on there is well known and not even slightly supportive of your claims.

 

I don't see a way to suggest that we're putting too much trust in big pharma. The testing and reporting being done do not have big pharma involved.

As to your "8 months", the first medical testing of mRNA vaccines against COVID were administered on human populations more than a year ago.

What has been found to date does NOT justify allowing people to die of COVID while watching the population of those infected allow for new strains to evolve.

 

Again, yes, pharmaceuticals are responsible for reporting. Clinical site get and enter data into the sponsors EDC (electronic data collection) and it's responsibility to report their findings to the FDA. If the FDA finds laps in the data, the FDA will issue a site audit or even a study on hold or even a suspension. Again I think many of you here just do not see how clinical trials work.

Yes, but your now implying that all doses were administered a year ago. Remember, the role out was methodical and only certain people were granted access to the vaccine. There were various phases of the roll out. Even then, there is such a huge pool of data, interpreting the data from patient who received dosages a year ago and then patient having a potential AE or SAE would need to be investigated to see if it is correlative with the vaccine. As I stated before, my mother was diagnosed with ILD shortly after her second dose. Their initial assessment is that it was coincidence and not vaccine related. However, more patients that come down with ILD, then researchers will need to revisit her prior diagnosis.

You and I 100% unequivocally agree! That is why I am so perplexed why they are not offering these other, vastly tested treatments to those in dire need to save lives? Many other countries are, just like India that has very little access to the vaccine (was like 3% total vaccinated, yet their death rate went down SUBSTANTIALLY. And yes, they were using various cocktails of ivermectin and HCQ. Granted, I suspect many will claim there is no correlation, however I am open to their analysis of how their death rate and infection rate plummeted, yet only 3% of their population had been vaccinated.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/india/

 

CDC, WHO, the FDA and everyone else has serious involvement in these tests. Suggesting that they represent "trusting big pharma" is just not an acceptable description. Plus, we have the vaccine reporting system that is a MAJOR source of data today, where big pharma is not even in the loop at all.

No, I'm saying that we have significant test cases that have been vaccinated well more than 8 months ago.

The patents are owned by specific companies. Our government has been working on ways to work around that problem so that world wide distribution can grow to what it absolutely does need to be - even if one doesn't just consider fairness.

As you point out, the situation in other countries that have very low vaccination rates does not form more than a correlation.

One would have to study what has gone on in those countries.

 

Your fake report isolates the use of Hydroxy on its own. There is nothing in that report about the combination of Hydroxy with Zinc or any other PH controller. In fact, they knowingly LIE about Hydroxy being the PH controller.
Anyone who graduated basic high school science knows Zinc is a PH controller used in just about every aspect of the human body.
Since nobody in the medical field would use Hydroxy on its own to fight Covid, (or has used Hydroxy on its own) your report is nothing but political banter. Fake information. In other words, red meat for those who don't know any better.

Then why don't you quote the part that doesn't ignore using Hydroxy with Zinc or any other PH controller of the cell.
I'll wait right here.

Now you're just trying to BS your way around. It only proves how clueless you really are. Since you are the same guy who didn't even know any governors were banning Hydroxy, and for some odd reason could only force yourself to read one single line, I doubt providing your with additional information will be fruitful but I will just the same.

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rel...ess-hospitalizations-and-death-301094237.html
https://www.researchgate.net/post/Is_a_combo_of_chloroquine_and_Zinc_a_cure_for_coronavirus

Dr. Rick Bright, Ph.D. Director Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA) Office of Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response (ASPR) U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) 330 Independence Ave, S.W. Room 640G Washington, D.C. 20201

Chloroquine phosphate and hydroxychloroquine sulfate are currently recommended for treatment of hospitalized COVID-19 patients in several countries, and a number of national guidelines report incorporating recommendations regarding use of chloroquine phosphate or hydroxychloroquine sulfate in the setting of COVID-19. FDA encourages the conduct and participation in randomized controlled clinical trials that may produce evidence concerning the effectiveness of these products in treating COVID-19. FDA is issuing this EUA to facilitate the availability of chloroquine phosphate and hydroxychloroquine sulfate during the COVID-19 pandemic to treat patients for whom a clinical trial is not available, or participation is not feasible.

Countries that use Hydroxychloroquine may have 80% lower Covid death rates.
https://wentworthreport.com/2020/08...oroquine-may-have-80-lower-covid-death-rates/

BREAKING REPORT from John Hopkins Journal: GREAT NEWS on Hydroxychloroquine + Zinc
https://thewatchtowers.org/breaking-report-from-john-hopkins-journal-great-news-on-hydroxychloroquine-zinc/

Study shows hydroxychloroquine and zinc treatments increased coronavirus survival rate by almost three times
https://news.yahoo.com/study-shows-hydroxychloroquine-zinc-treatments-210300816.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

Thousands of Doctors: Yes, Hydroxychloroquine Works Against Wuhan Coronavirus
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katie...en-recovery-with-hydroxy-chloroquine-n2566409

A New Study Shows, Again, That Hydroxychloroquine Works
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2021/06/09/hydroxychloroquine-study-n2590700

An Effective COVID Treatment the Media Continues to Besmirch
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/08/04/an_effective_covid_treatment_the_media_continues_to_besmirch_143875.html#!

Doctors who use Hydroxychloroquine say it’s the best hope for treatment of the virus globally
https://www.independentsentinel.com/doctors-who-use-hydroxychloroquine-say-its-the-best-hope-for-treatment-of-the-virus/

Would you like a few hundred more or is this sufficient.

 

You are citing WATCHTOWER??? And, that article is based on a cite from several months MORE than a YEAR ago!!

The same goes for your TownHall cite.

The same goes for your IndependentSentinel cite.

The YouTube thing is about a TINY study, not the massive and controlled studies that are required by the FDA, WHO and others.

You aren't even TRYING to find the real situation.

It's well known that their was initial hope for hydroxycloroquine.

What is also well known is that those hopes did not come true.

 

So John Hopkins, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Dr. Anthony Cardillo, CEO of Mend Urgent Care Dr. Mohammud Alam,an infectious disease specialist affiliated with Plainview Hospital Dr. Stephen Smith, founder of The Smith Center for Infectious Diseases and Urban Health, the 6,227 physicians surveyed in 30 countries, and the observational study, published by medRxiv, finding that antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine, along with zinc, could increase the coronavirus survival rate by as much as nearly 200%. ALL OF WHICH have prescribe Hydroxy Zinc clarifying their outcomes are all lying crockpots because you know better.

Think I'll go with Occams Razer here
Thanks

 

There are thousands of convictions for conspiracy in the US every year.
That is a fact not a theory.

The Crime of Conspiracy Thrives in Decisions of the United States Supreme Court, By Paul Marcus, College of William & Mary Law School, Faculty Publications Faculty and Deans, 2015.
https://scholarship.law.wm.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2837&context=facpubs

 

In fact, Fauci is a fully exposed liar.
Given that fact is Fauci still credible?

 

Wow, you should live in Vegas.
The breakthrough rate is miniscule.

 

So the above is your answer to this
9royhobbs said: ↑
Tell you what......if you're unlucky enough to get Covid bad enough to go to the hospital will you argue with your doctor and tell them to give you whatever you think is the best remedy or just let them do their job. I can pretty much guarantee that whatever you think will cure and/or mitigate you situation is not what will be used......but best of luck to you.
Anyone can see that your answer in no way touches on the question put to you. That's not a dodge, or a strawman or anything else but simply having no answer at all.
A surrender.

 

You cherry picked 1 line to make a false point and you know it.

 

Abortion doesn't kill babies but since that is also a medical question as is the vaccine and if one should take it you continue to show your ignorance on the subject of medicine and science.

 

Not difficult but a waste of time. You proved that by saying to read more than one. You knew you were wrong.

 

Yeah, Just going to let that ignorance speak for itself

 

It's science. Facts are facts. Your posts prove you have little interest in those.

 

Says the guy who claimed no babies are killed during abortions.

 

Yes, yes I did.

 

None are....in abortion embryos/fetuses are killed....

Don't fear science...

 

If they are not humans in the womb then they are not humans out of the womb. I say abortion up to 18 years old then.