Physicians who post COVID-19 vaccine misinformation may lose license, medical panel says

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  1. Bowerbird

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    Well seems Rand Paul has his own board

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rand_Paul
     
  2. Bearack

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    I specifically stated that this was a recently published in my comments for the fact that the research has been ongoing. If it makes you fell better, here is a peer-reviewed study that was published in August, 2020. I can go even older if you need. There are several open to accrual and closed to accrual trials out there.

    Effects of Ivermectin-azithromycin-cholecalciferol combined therapy on COVID-19 infected patients: A proof of concept study

    Also, the current vaccines are showing to be a leaky vaccine, meaning that the vaccinated are still contagious and can still transmit the virus. Studies (2015) are showing that these types of leaky vaccines could actually potentially enhance the transmission of these virulent strains. Do you think this is something we should investigate? Or do you consider this junk science because it wasn't told you by the MSN?

    Imperfect Vaccination Can Enhance the Transmission of Highly Virulent Pathogens
     
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    Thanks for the update. Hopefully something good will come of it.
     
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    Condor060 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't know of anyone claiming Hydroxy alone is a cure for Covid. That claim is reserved for those who try and discount the combination of Hydroxy and Zinc by isolating Hydroxy by itself for a political agenda.

    Hydroxy and Zinc went into trials in April of 2020.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7202847/
    https://www.researchgate.net/post/Is_a_combo_of_chloroquine_and_Zinc_a_cure_for_coronavirus


    Newly Published Outpatient Study Finds that Early Use of Zinc, Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin Is Associated with Less Hospitalizations and Death

    Hydroxychloroquine's main function within this treatment approach is to allow zinc to enter the cell. Zinc is the virus killer, and azithromycin prevents secondary bacterial infection in the lungs and reduces the risk of pulmonary complications.


    https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rel...ess-hospitalizations-and-death-301094237.html

    Hydroxychloroquine used by Korea for Covid-19 while US is divided
    Trump has repeatedly touted the drug and received significant pushback from the media and the Democratic Party, with the governors of Nevada, Michigan and New York even going so far as to issue executive orders restricting how doctors can use HCQ to treat patients suffering from Covid-19.

    When have you ever heard of Governors restricting doctors from using any treatments in the history of the US? Especially when Korea was having such success.

    Medical treatments have traditionally been a private decision between patients and doctors, but now it seems politicians are usurping their right to choose. According to Dr Jeffrey Singer, a general surgeon and Cato Institute fellow, this threatens the integrity of the medical profession and indirectly imperils patients, by denying them emergency options when no other alternatives are available.

    Moreover, the politicization of treatment options would not help Americans, given the fact countries such as Belgium, France and South Korea have used HCQ to treat Covid-19 with a good degree of success.

    https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/hydroxychloroquine-used-by-korea-for-covid-19-while-us-is-divided/
     
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    I'm not sure how it could possibly help when you have Governors issuing executive orders restricting how doctors can use HCQ to treat patients and the left calling for medical boards taking medical licensing from Doctors who promote Hydroxy/Zinc or even show results.

    Even with absolute global positive results.
     
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    Perhaps your memory needs a little jogging. It wasn't the vaccine that Dems were doubting - it was the speed of delivery which Trump was demanding and the politicization of it. He insisted that it be delivered prior to the election.

    The FDA has proposed that volunteers who received a vaccine be monitored for two months after their final dose to be sure they did not develop serious side effects. White House chief of staff Mark Meadows — a Trump loyalist and very much not a scientist — objected to this deadline. The Times reports that Meadows complained that the FDA’s commissioner “was overly influenced by his agency’s career scientists.” Recall that Azar and Slaoui had soothingly assured the public that those same career scientists at the FDA would be in charge.
    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/202...errules-fda-election-coronavirus-science.html
     
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    I don't think anyone who heard Biden questioning whether a coronavirus vaccine approved by the Trump administration would be safe thought he was talking about speed and no amount of back peddling will change that.
     
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    Speaking from his home base of Wilmington, Delaware, on Wednesday, Biden argued that such a vaccine should only be approved by adhering to rigorous safety standards.

    “Scientific breakthroughs don’t care about calendars any more than the virus does. They certainly don’t adhere to election cycles. And their timing, their approval and distribution, should never, ever be distorted by political considerations,” he said.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-biden-idUSKBN2671NW
     
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    Its called undermining public confidence in a vaccine if the vaccine emerges during the Trump administration.
    Biden and Harris were talking down Operation Warp Speed claiming any such effort pushed by Trump was untrustworthy. A claim so patently false that even Anthony Fauci denied it.
    Harris claimed in debates she wouldn't get the vaccine.

    Then, After the election Biden claimed if you get the shot you won't get the virus. Funny thing is, the vaccine came from the same efforts employed by OWS.
     
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    You can interpret things as you wish - I have provided two links that talked about Trump wanting to disregard the FDA. Oddly, it is now his supporters who are against the vaccine citing the fact that it has not been FDA approved.
     
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    You provided your interpretation of what Trump claimed. Now your claiming its oddly Trump supporters who are against the vaccine? More disinformation when you currently have 65% of the Black community and Latinos refusing the vaccine. Last we all checked those are Biden supporters.
     
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    Of course we can't know the personal details of the posters here, but I would be shocked if all the anti vax folks here at PFF are Black or Latino.

    As for my interpretation - it isn't the case. Trump was patently disagreeing with the FDA's guidelines of testing times. He wanted to roll out the vaccine before the election. That is not an interpretation, that is a fact.
     
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    And I'd be curious to if you put me into your "anti vaxx" category since I'm still gathering data and have questions around the vaccines?
     
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    PFF subscribers? Who was talking about PFF subscribers? Where did that come from? Oh, I get it. You don't like the fact that the majority of Blacks and Latinos in the US are refusing the vaccine (Biden supporters) as it doesn't play into the anti vaxxing Trump supporter narrative. Nice try but no banana.

    And without OWS, you wouldn't have a vaccine that could be delivered in the US right now. Go figure.
     
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    Curiosity is important. Reading and learning is encouraged always. Those who are deemed 'anti vax' are those who are just that - anti vax. If you are not in that category, then I don't consider you anti vax.
     
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    Ok, so in response to saying that has been suppression of things that could have headed off the pandemic you go to a report that was just released and admit that is so but just can't admit that there has been so suppression of anything.
    Do I think everything should be investigated....of course. Does the paper you submitted prove your point about "leaky" vaccinations....no, it doesn't.
     
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    There are plenty of those out there claiming HQC alone is the cure. If you want to backstep to ......Oh, it has to be with zinc......knock yourself out but it doesn't change the fact that overall it is minimal at best.....which is what has always been said. The vaccine is better. Get the shot.
    Hell, I would go further. If you think thoughts and prayers are going to help.......you shouldn't be allowed to go to church anymore and to keep your thoughts to yourself.
     
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    I am in favor of stripping these dipshits losing their medical license as they spout complete horseshit.
     
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    Just posting that on Facebook or Twitter and see what happens. Heck, they are out to cancel Joe Rogan.... again, for just this very case study he mentioned on his pod cast. How is that not suppression?

    And the case study I provided I never advocated anything of proof but if these vaccines are indicative of being in the realm of a leaky vaccine and that the potential of us creating a way more virulent variant that could be even more damaging down the road, then it truly should be investigated. That is responsible science!
     
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    I was hoping you would bring up that very point, well done!! Clearly the MSM and their avid feeders don't want or will tolerate any substance contrary to the road they have committed themselves to...

    addressing negative effects scares then so bad they'd rather not know, and they want EVERYONE to follow as blindly as they are doing... I guess someday we will all know what rules supreme Vaccine or Human Immune systems ;)
     
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    I think this is a fantastic idea. Let's start with the Woman's right to make her own medical decisions in regards to abortion. You in?
     
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    Simply because they don't meet your preferred brand of propaganda. You clearly would condemn A DOCTOR(s) because they have evidence and finding other then being jabbed six months and then told to wear a mask..

    And you don't see a real problem with that?
     
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    Really, who would that be? The only people out there claiming that I have seen thus far are those trying to stop it usage.

    Hydroxy doesn't cure anything. Its only used to make the cell wall more permeable so the cell will accept Zinc supplements. Once in the cell, Zinc lowers the PH level of the cell thus killing the virus. So tell us again who is claiming Hydroxy alone is curing Covid?

    Heil 9royhobbs
     
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    Well that was surrender :) :truce:
     

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