Planned Parenthood's former president says she was instructed to say 'abortion' in every interview.

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  1. FoxHastings

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    Well, golly darn, then you SHOULD be able to POINT it out and prove your silly claim "" that's their number 1 priority. More abortions.""
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Abortion is not murder.
    ( IF YOU THINK IT IS THEN WHY HAVEN'T YOU CALLED THE POLICE???????????????????)


    A ZEF is not a legal person with rights.

    A ZEF is part of, and connected to, the woman it's in.

    Even IF it was a person it would NOT have the right to harm another without their consent.


    :) Obviously you had nothing better to say......no refutation, no facts...nothing.
     
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    They absolutely can be enforced. Just as much as any law that we currently enforce that a person can try to do to themselves that's harmful.
     
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    So in other words, about as much as you have said so far?
     
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    Reeks of misogyny...."make dem wimmens pay for their lose ways!!! Or be smote!!!"

    LOLOLOLOLOL
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How?
     
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    :) Tax deductions for ZEFs ?



    With rights come restrictions....NO one is allowed to use another's body to sustain their life, YOU want a ZEF to have more rights than women which is quite misogynistic(and not a surprise)..

    IF a ZEF is ever deemed a legal person then the woman has every right to kill it as it's harming her without her consent.
    Now, I think you would approve of women being harmed without their consent but it IS against the law.


    A human ZEF is human, it is NOT A human as in legal person.

    A live ZEF is alive....so it my toe.
     
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    They could try like they did during prohibition, but when you try to legislate such things the situation often goes from bad to worse. Contraption and education is a proven way to reduce abortions.

    Politically speaking I doubt GOP wants abortion to go away because it's a golden wedge issue which brings in tons of votes from the evangelical voters. To be honest, I doubt they can win without it, unless they find something else they can use during election cycles.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Abortion is not murder.
    ( IF YOU THINK IT IS THEN WHY HAVEN'T YOU CALLED THE POLICE???????????????????)


    A ZEF is not a legal person with rights.

    A ZEF is part of, and connected to, the woman it's in.

    Even IF it was a person it would NOT have the right to harm another without their consent.




    :) Obviously you had nothing better to say......no refutation, no facts...nothing.


    :) Ohh, sounds like someone ran out of any argument.....and AGAIN , can't address a post with those scary FACTS in it...:)


    ( IF YOU THINK IT IS THEN WHY HAVEN'T YOU CALLED THE POLICE???????????????????)


    If you haven't then you are ignoring your civic and legal duties :)
     
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    True. It will only make things worse like gun laws and the war on drugs.
     
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    Nope. Still here and fairly resolved in my stance on what the act of abortion is and why it is morally corrupt. Through the course of debating this with you, beyond your over abuse of the enter key we have discovered that you would be ok with abortion up until birth. lol.
     
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    If you willingly put it there then you must bare the responsibilities of your actions. You do not get to willfully create life just to end life. That's being morally corrupt.

    :)
     
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    Ohh, sounds like someone ran out of any argument.....and AGAIN , can't address a post with those scary FACTS in it...:)


    ( IF YOU THINK IT IS THEN WHY HAVEN'T YOU CALLED THE POLICE???????????????????)

    If you haven't then you are ignoring your civic and legal duties :)
     
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    :) Well, that's your opinion and what it's worth is seen in the FACT that abortion is legal......must gall to know all those women are having sex anytime and any way they feel like it without your permission :)
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    :) Tax deductions for ZEFs ?



    With rights come restrictions....NO one is allowed to use another's body to sustain their life, YOU want a ZEF to have more rights than women which is quite misogynistic(and not a surprise)..

    IF a ZEF is ever deemed a legal person then the woman has every right to kill it as it's harming her without her consent.
    Now, I think you would approve of women being harmed without their consent but it IS against the law.



    A human ZEF is human, it is NOT A human as in legal person.

    A live ZEF is alive....so it my toe.


    .

    No one needs to be bare to accept repsonibility...fully clothed is fine....and women DO bear the responsibility and some do it by getting an abortion....YOU said it, it's THEIR responsibility NOT YOURS.



    NO one can willfully get pregnant, they have sex and either get pregnant or not....

    Oh, them evil wimmens...must be controlled.....
     
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    :applause::applause::applause::applause::applause:

    Great post and true!!!!

    Misogyny is based on fear of women having power....
     
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    Part of our combined history as a species is the mystery of birth and procreation. Women have the secret, they have always been revered as the source of all that is good and new, they make life. That has scared the **** out of men for eons.
     
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    Sadly, some people can't tell the difference between a ZEF and a legal born person.....and HAVE to go off topic ;) ;)
     
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    You can't claim to be moral suggesting that it's ok to willfully create life just to end life because your tinder date wasn't that great.
    A human ZEF is human, it is NOT A human as in legal person.[/quote]
    It's human. It's not a cat or a dog or a plant or a frog or anything else other than a human. And It's alive. And if allowed to grow will become a full fledge adult in 25 years.
    Your toe will not grow into a full grown adult in 25 years. I mean...if you need me to explain the difference between your toe and a baby then your understanding of biology is even more broken than I had originally thought. lol!
    Oh no ma'am. Someone has too. The problem here is you are asking the doctor to take responsibility by murdering that which you willfully created.
    There is only one. Count em! ONE method of getting pregnant. Last I checked it can't happen if it's stuck up your ass or down your throat or rubbed in your hands or on your tits. Biology 101. If you elect to have sex in the ONE way that can result in getting pregnant, then the consequences of that choice were willfully committed by you, the participant. If you didn't want to get pregnant then you could have opted to have sex in the many other ways one can that makes it IMPOSSIBLE to create another person. So ya. You willfully made that choice. Just because you didn't like the results of that choice shouldn't give you the right to murder that which you willfully created.
    If I could hold men as accountable for their actions of just pumping semen into anything that breathes without a thought about the consequences, I would. Unfortunately due to biology, women have to BEAR the responsibility of the action they both partook in.

    How's that enter key holden up for ya? Good?
     
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    As in, to ensure that zero elective abortions take place?
     
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    So you think that this is a fake story?
     
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    What logic? YOUR logic? I just used YOUR 'logic' against you! You said, "if you don't like abortion, don't have one."
     
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    Define "health."
     
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    The ZEF has unique DNA. So yes, they are a separate individual! I don't see why pro-abortion folk can't acknowledge that they are a separate individual even if at the same time they say that they should be able to be killed because it's not fully developed, or it cannot survive outside the womb, or some other bad reasoning.

    This is usually the pro-abortion 'it's not viable' argument. I don't see how it's an argument against the reality that it's a separate individual.

    You say that as if reproduction is always the GOAL of having sex. The majority of sexual activity is not
    for reproduction. And the only reason that so much of it can even take place is because of contraception and abortion.

    Perhaps you mean that SEX is a basic human activity, which would be consistent with your rule number 1 of human behavior. This rule is inconsistent with your proclamation that "reproduction is a basic human activity." If rule 1 was, people will REPRODUCE, then it would be consistent.

    People are free to have sex, but they need to deal with the consequences of it if any arise. If abortion was banned, and people have sex and a pregnancy results, but abortion is unavailable, who is responsible for the pregnancy? Answer: the people who did the act which caused the pregnancy! This is what we on the right call: PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY! The left seem to be unaware of this concept!
     
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    Health of either the baby or the fetus not surviving the pregnancy.
     

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