Polar Bears Are Thriving

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  1. Jack Hays

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    The struggle against propaganda continues.
    New paper polar bears attracted to garbage dumps blames lack of sea ice without any evidence
    Posted on July 21, 2022 | Comments Offon New paper polar bears attracted to garbage dumps blames lack of sea ice without any evidence
    A paper published yesterday discusses polar bears that get into human garbage and cause other problems due to community attractants. Most of the incidents recounted and the issues they’ve raised have been reported by the media and are ones I’ve discussed here over the last few years in detail, including here and here, as well as in my recent book (Crockford 2019).

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    Churchill dump 2003. Dan Guravich photo, Polar Bears International handout.
    All you need to know about the motivation behind the paper comes from the authors’ acknowledgement:

    This paper developed from a meeting in Churchill, Manitoba, in autumn 2019 where the issue of dump use by polar bears arose. We thank Dan Cox [a photographer for PBI] for suggesting exploration of this issue and Polar Bears International for arranging this meeting.

    So, six months or so after my book came out in March 2019, in which these issues were discussed in detail, polar bear experts decided it was time to write a paper on the topic. The open access paper, by Tom Smith and colleagues (Smith et al. 2022), is accompanied by an online essay published the same day by the lead author and picked up at least one cheer-leading media outlet via Reuters. See what you think.

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    Too much ice is the bears' current problem.

    Thick sea ice in the Western Arctic is not good habitat for polar bears, seals, or walrus
    Posted on July 23, 2022 | Comments Offon Thick sea ice in the Western Arctic is not good habitat for polar bears, seals, or walrus
    A few weeks into the Arctic summer (July-September), sea ice in the Beaufort and Chukchi Seas is dominated by thick, multi-year ice.

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    At this time of year, multi-year ice is an important refuge habitat for many polar bears when seasonal ice melts out. However, it provides few opportunities for hunting seals. In fact, it is nearly as devoid of food as is the shore during the melt season. Consequently, most polar bears eat little over the summer whether they are on land or on sea ice due to the scarcity of seals.

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    Warmist/alarmists don't talk about Polar Bears much anymore as it is a growing embarrassment to their silly, they are doomed because of low summer sea ice levels argument which has failed spectacularly.

    Summer Sea ice has stopped declining around 15 years ago they have been quiet about that too....

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    Thank you for introducing this "cool" topic while it's a humid, 100+ degrees outside.

    I just did some cursory research and believe you're right in that the polar bear population has increased and is increasing.

    However, I'm not so sure that an increasing polar bear population, alone, is conclusive proof that the concerns of environmentalists are entirely unfounded.

    What do you think?
     
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    What's your opinion on the world's sea level; is it rising or about the same?

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    It is rising in many places and declining in others but a small overall rise, but the sea level concerns are over blown as it is goes up and down over time naturally and was around 1-3 meters higher earlier in the Holocene.

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    Are you saying that the world's sea level was actually 1 - 3m higher in the early Holocene epoch?

    I think that it's generally accepted that the Holocene epoch began around 9,700 BCE which is about the same time that a geological disturbance occurred that caused Doggerland and other North Atlantic locations to permanently flood.
    As you know, one could once walk from Holland or France to England through an area called Doggerland.

    Frequently, fishermen in the English Chanel will pull up man made Paleolithic artifacts, mammoth tusks etc so I don't see how the sea could have been at that level at that time.

    I'm more inclined to believe much of what's in the article below:

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    "Climate Change: Global Sea Level"
    https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-global-sea-level#:~:text=In 2020, global sea level,per year from 2006–2015.

    HIGHLIGHTS

    • Sea level has risen 8–9 inches (21–24 centimeters) since 1880.
    • In 2020, global sea level set a new record high—91.3 mm (3.6 inches) above 1993 levels.
    • The rate of sea level rise is accelerating: it has more than doubled from 0.06 inches (1.4 millimeters) per year throughout most of the twentieth century to 0.14 inches (3.6 millimeters) per year from 2006–2015.
    • In many locations along the U.S. coastline, high-tide flooding is now 300% to more than 900% more frequent than it was 50 years ago.
    • If we are able to significantly reduce greenhouse gas emissions, U.S. sea level in 2100 is projected to be around 0.6 meters (2 feet) higher on average than it was in 2000.
    • On a pathway with high greenhouse gas emissions and rapid ice sheet collapse, models project that average sea level rise for the contiguous United States could be 2.2 meters (7.2 feet) by 2100 and 3.9 meters (13 feet) by 2150.
     
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    What I posted is correct and true here is what I stated that you seem to have trouble understanding since I already acknowledged sea level is rising, but it was higher in the past as published papers attest, they also neglect to go before year 1880 since sea lever started rising in the early 1800's.

    I wrote this,

    "It is rising in many places and declining in others but a small overall rise, but the sea level concerns are over blown as it is goes up and down over time naturally and was around 1-3 meters higher earlier in the Holocene."

    Here are a few charts showing higher than now sea levels this has been known since the 1970's,

    The Holocene Sea Level Highstand

    Guest geological note by David Middleton

    Excerpt:

    Being a geologist, and having gone to college in the 1970’s, I was taught that Holocene sea levels fluctuated and were generally higher than present day during the Mid- to Late-Holocene.


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    More in the link with the sources included

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    Here are a few published papers,

    Sage Journals

    Influences of sea level on depositional environment during the last 1000 years in the southwestern Bengal delta, Bangladesh

    Haque and Hoyanagi

    First Published February 18, 2021

    Abstract

    This study illustrates the influences of sea-level on the depositional process during the last 1000 years of the southwestern delta, Bangladesh. Sediments of eight litho-sections from landward in upper delta plain to seaward in lower delta plain along the Rupsa-Pasur river were studied. Sedimentary facies, total organic carbon, total nitrogen, δ13C value, diatom assemblages, and radiocarbon dating of deposits were carried out to determine the paleoenvironments that were influenced by the relative sea-level (RSL) change over time. During the 850–1300 AD, RSL was reached up to +80 cm higher than the present level where tidal-influenced bioturbated light yellow to gray mud deposited in the upper delta plain area. RSL was dropped up to −110 cm during 1300–1850 AD, organic-rich bluish-gray mud, mangrove peat, and terrestrial influenced yellowish-gray mud were deposited successively in the lower delta plain area, and the terrace was formed at landward due to the lowering of the base level. RSL started to rise after the period 1850 AD where tidal-influenced sediments gradually increased and deposited in the upper part at seaward and terrestrial flood sediment deposited over the erosional surface at the landward part. The estimated average sedimentation rate (1.96–2.89 mm/year) is not enough to offset the effect of subsidence and present sea-level rise over the study area. The rising trend of the sea creates inundation in the lower delta plain area, also hinders upstream water flow. For that, terrestrial flood sediments settle over the erosional surface in landward, and tidal-influenced sediment gradually onlap upon it from seaward.

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    Lopez-Belzunce et al., 2020 Mediterranean, +1-1.2 m higher than present

    “Regarding the stabilization of the RSL [relative sea level], our data show it to be 1.20 m above the present-day level at 3000 cal yr BP and 1 m higher at 2000 cal yr BP.”

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    Brocx and Semeniuk, 2020 Western Australia, +1 m higher than present

    “The Holocene stratigraphy in the Walpole–Nornalup Inlet Estuary shows that mean sea level was 1 m higher than present some 2900–1200 years BP (Semeniuk et al., 2011).”


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    I can post many more than this that shows sea level were HIGHER than now earlier in the Holocene.



     
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    It's a good time to be a bear.

    Hudson Bay sea ice update: many polar bears are still on low concentration ice offshore

    Posted on August 4, 2022 | Comments Offon Hudson Bay sea ice update: many polar bears are still on low concentration ice offshore
    Almost half of all tagged Western Hudson polar bears are still out on the ice of Hudson Bay, even though much of it is broken up in pieces: as of yesterday, 10 out of 22 bears were still offshore.

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    Mother and cub near Churchill last year, 30 October 2021.
    This is shaping up to be a great year for Hudson Bay bears!

    It also appears none of the bears onshore are causing problems in Churchill, as the Polar Bear Alert Program weekly reports for Churchill have not yet begun. Last year the first report was issued for the first week of July, while in 2020 the first report didn’t come out until the end of August.

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    More fakery from an AGW activist, exposed.

    Fact check: Polar bears breaking through thin ice is not evidence of climate change, it’s a drone chase

    Posted on September 3, 2022 | Comments Offon Fact check: Polar bears breaking through thin ice is not evidence of climate change, it’s a drone chase
    This morning, self-professed ‘climate campaigner’ Mike Hudema posted a short video of two polar bears seemingly struggling to survive as they repeatedly break through newly-formed ice, with the message “Polar bears are up against a huge problem. They are losing their habitat. As the Arctic becomes increasingly warm & sea ice disappears its harder to find a mate & food.

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    This was clearly designed to elicit an emotional response from viewers but it’s every bit as manipulative and false as the video of the emaciated polar bear shamelessly promoted by National Geographic as ‘what climate change looks like’, which I describe in detail in my new book, Fallen Icon (Crockford 2022a).

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    What a pathetic individual
     
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    Yup when they manipulate and lie a lot about climate stuff it is because the truth doesn't support their narrative.
     
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    The bears don't like too much ice.
    Polar Opposite: Polar Bears Require Thin Ice Or Open Water To Survive
    By Kenneth Richard on 5. September 2022

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    Abundant polar bear remains dating to 8000 to 9000 years ago have been found on Zhokhov Island, which is today surrounded by year-round sea ice (even in summer). This Arctic latitude (76°N) is too cold and thus too ice-covered for polar bears to inhabit today.
    During the Early Holocene CO2 concentrations ranged between 255 to 265 ppm, and yet the Arctic was 5-7°C warmer than it is today and many regions that are now sea ice-covered were sea ice-free.

    For example, Zhokhov Island is tundra and treeless today. It’s surrounded by permanent sea ice, making it inaccessible to wildlife.[​IMG]

    Image Source: Wikipedia
    But during the Early Holocene Zhokhov was so warm that water fowl, birch forests, humans and their domesticated dogs, polar bears, reindeer…all inhabited this terrain. Today’s northern boundary for birch is located 600 km south of Zhokhov Island.

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    Image Source: Pitulko et al., 2019 and Makeyev et al., 2003
    A new study on polar bear evolution documents the requisite access to thin ice or open water – polynyas – for polar bears and seals to survive. The author details fossil evidence of an abundant polar bear presence on and around Zhokhov Island during a period (Early Holocene) that was “warmer than today.”

    This seemingly uncontroversial conclusion (that polar bears thrive in polynya environments) does not align with the popularized viewpoint that polar bears drown and die off when sea ice thins or in open-water habitat.

    The reason polar bears cannot survive on Zhokhov Island and similar sites today is because it is too cold and the sea ice is too thick. Polar bears are rarely found in areas with “thick offshore ice” because thick ice precludes the survival of seals – and thus polar bears.

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    Image Source: Crockford, 2022
    The study also details just how different the polar bear habitat is today relative to just a few thousand years ago. For example, the sea levels around Hudson Bay and Churchill were about 165 meters above present about 7800 years ago, and still 25 meters higher than today 2000 years ago. Thus, polar bears had a much more limited range of occupation at this time.

    These seemingly impossible relative sea level heights are linked to extreme vertical crustal movements, as a kilometers-high ice sheet had been sitting atop the Churchill region for millennia. To put these values in context, another Canadian shoreline site has been determined to have 90 meters higher sea levels during the late last glacial (Letham et al., 2021).
     
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    Here is the FULL video showing that Mike is a bald-faced liar and pushed his climate voodo over and over on his stupid twitter site.

    It is obvious that the two bears are just following the drone with land not far behind them and their population numbers are still higher than they were in 2005 as shown in the link with reference sources listed:

    STATE OF THE POLAR BEAR REPORT 2020 Susan J. Crockford

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    More nonsense debunked.


    Frozen Planet II repeats Attenborough’s climate change scaremongering that began in 2015

    Posted on September 12, 2022 | Comments Offon Frozen Planet II repeats Attenborough’s climate change scaremongering that began in 2015
    A new Sir David Attenborough-narrated BBC six-part documentary, Frozen Planet II, has just hit TV audiences in the UK with a fresh litany of sob stories about Arctic and Antarctic animals designed to amplify the ‘save the planet’ rhetoric that Attenborough has been pushing for years, which I described in detail my book published earlier this year, Fallen Icon: Sir David Attenborough and the Falling Walrus Deception. h/t Toby Young.

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    Filming of Frozen Planet II series began in 2018, which suggests it was part of Attenborough’s relentless ‘climate change’ and ‘tipping point’ messaging agenda that started in 2015 with the inception of the WWF/Netflix ‘Our Planet‘ blockbuster series and the infamous Russian ‘falling walrus’. I’m sure it’s no coincidence that the second episode of this new series (Frozen Ocean) is set to air next week, around the time that Arctic sea ice will reach its lowest extent for the year.

    Frozen Planet II: Sunday [11 September], 8pm, BBC One

    Penguins! Gerbils! Seals! The fluffiest (and grumpiest) cats in the world! David Attenborough returns with another epic exploration of the world’s frozen regions. One minute you’re screaming at a grizzly bear chasing a muskox calf that’s lost its parents, the next you’re weirdly sad that a polar bear can’t hunt seals because of the melting ice – and this image nails the urgent message in this incredible six-episode series. The frozen wilderness is disappearing at a faster rate than ever before, with the Arctic predicted to see ice-free summers by 2035. Each closeup shot of these amazing animals is a reminder of what the world will lose without taking immediate action. [my bold] Hollie Richardson, The Guardian, 11 September 2022

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    Another lying warmist/alarmist slimeball comes out with easy to debunk lies.

    More and more warmist/alarmists are blatantly LYING and avoiding real meaningful debate as seen here and other forum places I visit because they the TRUTH destroys their climate delusions.

    Someone like Dr. Crockford who has courage to present the evidence to expose the lies that slimeballs like Attenborough promote even after he was broadly exposed as a big liar over the lemming claims he made that was quickly debunked a couple years ago.
     
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    Liars really don't have any choice but continue to lie. They're not qualified to get a real job.
     
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    Polar bear no closer to extinction than it was 18 years ago as Arctic sea ice resists ‘tipping point’
    Posted on September 21, 2022 | Comments Offon Polar bear no closer to extinction than it was 18 years ago as Arctic sea ice resists ‘tipping point’
    All predictions of disaster aside, in fact the polar bear is no closer to extinction than it was in 2005 as Arctic sea ice again steadfastly resists slipping past a catastrophic ‘tipping point’ — or the ‘death spiral’, as some chicken-littles continue to call it.



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    In fact, the summer sea ice trend has been pretty much flat since 2007, with ice covering about 42% less area than it had done in 1979, yet polar bears in many regions are doing better now than they were in 2005, especially in Davis Strait, the Barents and Chukchi Seas and the Canadian Arctic Archipelago.

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    The whole notion of such a tipping point is absurd, as incident sunlight is proportional to the cosine of latitude: i.e., the farther north you go, the more rapidly solar heating decreases. While the tilt of the earth's axis means it never gets to zero on an annual basis, the notion that increased CO2 can somehow overcome the effect of latitude on solar heating is risible nonscience.
     
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    New polar bear hunting habitat forming already along the coast of the Laptev Sea: A new trend?

    Posted on October 6, 2022 | Comments Offon New polar bear hunting habitat forming already along the coast of the Laptev Sea: A new trend?
    Not even three weeks after the yearly minimum of sea ice extent was reached this year, new shorefast ice is already forming off the coast of Siberia, which is critical fall hunting habitat for polar bears.

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    Polar bears on a seal kill in new ice, 31 October 2020 in W. Hudson Bay via webcam.
    So, not only was this year’s sea ice extent for September at the very lowest extreme of predicted levels for late summer, given ever-increasing CO2 concentrations in the atmosphere, new ice seems to be forming earlier in the fall as well, which bodes well for winter ice formation. It’s looking to me like the decade-long increasing trend of September ice extent since 2012 (see below) may indicate a change more biologically relevant to ice-dependent Arctic animals than the zero trend since 2007.

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    Western Hudson Bay polar bears waiting for the sea ice to freeze as tourists flock to watch
    Posted on October 18, 2022 | Comments Offon Western Hudson Bay polar bears waiting for the sea ice to freeze as tourists flock to watch
    Should only be a few weeks more until the ice forms along the western shore of Hudson Bay, it’s already been snowing. But for the tourist outfitters around Churchill, this is their time to profit from those willing and able to spend big money to see polar bears up close.



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    from the Explore.org web cam, 18 October 2022
    Those tourists are captive audiences for the global warming propaganda provided by activist organization Polar Bears International: it’s virtually impossible for anyone to escape the climate change doom-mongering in Churchill and that’s a real pity.

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    Polar bear triplet litter spotted near Churchill as ice starts to form along west coast of Hudson Bay

    Posted on November 4, 2022 | Comments Offon Polar bear triplet litter spotted near Churchill as ice starts to form along west coast of Hudson Bay
    Polar bears, including a litter of triplet cubs (a sign of very good health), are gathering near Churchill, Manitoba where new ice is forming along the coast. This means the fall seal hunt will soon begin, depending on the winds (it might be a few days from now or a few weeks).

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    See below for some of the images of bears on the shore of Wapusk National Park taken by Explore.org video cams from Tundra Buggy-based cameras, as well as the most recent Churchill problem bear report.

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    Polar bear habitat update: ice forming along Hudson Bay, Wrangel & Franz Josef Islands surrounded
    Posted on November 10, 2022 | Comments Offon Polar bear habitat update: ice forming along Hudson Bay, Wrangel & Franz Josef Islands surrounded
    Western Hudson Bay polar bears near Churchill will be able to leave shore within days, at most one week later than in the 1980s, although you wouldn’t know that from the climate change activists at Polar Bears International who have spent the last week promoting some egregiously false and misleading statements. PBI controls the narrative surrounding Western Hudson Bay bears through their partnership with the biggest polar bear tourist outfits in Churchill and online.

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    Yesterday, it was “See how the climate crisis is changing their world”.



    Developing no slower than it did in 2007 (16 years of no change), Arctic sea ice is providing polar bears in southern regions with their second-most critical feeding opportunities while in areas like Wrangel Island and Franz Josef Land, they now have easy access to and from important summer refuge/maternity denning islands. And contrary to predictions of increased ‘conflict’ between polar bears and people around Churchill, there have been fewer problem bear reports there in recent years, this year included. In other words, there is no ‘climate crisis’ for polar bears, even in Western Hudson Bay, and recent models of a dire future for polar bears are based on totally implausible worst-case climate scenarios. Sea ice loss since 1979 has been so gradual that polar bears have been able to adapt, either through natural selection or changes in behaviour.



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    Hudson Bay sea ice freeze-up in 2022 like the 1980s for the 5th time since 2015

    Posted on November 17, 2022 | Comments Offon Hudson Bay sea ice freeze-up in 2022 like the 1980s for the 5th time since 2015
    This is the fifth year out of the last seven that enough sea ice has formed along the west coast of Hudson Bay by mid-November for bears to be able to head out to the ice, just as it did in the 1980s.

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    ‘Green dot’ problem bear released from Churchill holding facility on 10 November 2022. Dorota Walkoski photo.
    One of the independent polar bear guides on the ground near Churchill had this to say about the bears and freeze-up conditions this year:

    “Bears started leaving on November 10; conservation emptied the jail on the 10th as well.”

    ‘The jail’ is the Churchill Polar Bear Alert Program’s ‘holding facility’. While the Alert program folks have not released a report for this week (gee, I wonder why?), nearby tourist outfit Great White Bear Tours not only confirmed the bears were released from jail but posted a picture of a ‘green dot bear’: the mark put on problem bears released from the holding facility to keep track of them. Bears are not released before there is ample ice along shore for them to move out. Great White Bear Tours have been tracking bears moving offshore.

    This information suggests the average date for bears leaving shore will likely turn out to be 12-14 November, again earlier than the average for the 1980s (16 Nov +/- 5 days) (Castro de la Guardia et al. 2017). That makes five out of the last seven years (2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2022) since 2015 that bears have left about the same time as they did in the 1980s.

    While there are still be a few bears on the shore of Wapusk National Park that seem to be in no hurry to leave, a few stragglers doesn’t mean there isn’t ice available for hunting.



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