Practical firearms discussion

Discussion in 'Firearms and Hunting' started by Xenamnes, May 12, 2018.

  1. An Taibhse

    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    Now, you see, this is why discussions of weapons, weapon selections, etc. for SD would be interesting on this forum.
    While we are in agreement regarding the 1911 (many aren’t), my guns are set up to suit me, and both tested and I train exactly as I carry. As for speed, (and reliability) I have tested that as well. I don’t have a huge battery of guns anymore (I don’t hunt for sustanence or money these days) but those I have retained are extensions of me, particularly my hand guns, and that because of the frequency of my training with them and they fit me. Most are natural pointers for me. When I carry, I am completely consistent in carry condition and I have never stumbled in use. Before I carry a gun, I need to know it well and it must pass two 100% reliability tests, one of them being me with that gun.
    I was raised in an environment where adrenaline was constant to the point that it became normal and have survived where I needed, as have you.
    My use of the rattlesnake anaology is based on being meticulous with safety. I have been on rattle snake hunts, know how they behave, how to handle them safely, and that the game requires awareness and focus. But I suppose I use that analogy because it was used on me when I was first taught to shoot by my Da, that and the repeated mantra, that when not looking guns load themselves. With any gun, in handling, I am focused, redundant in maintaining safety, and when I teach safety I probably go a bit overboard to stress safety awareness, hopefully driving home vigilance...particularly regarding finger discipline. I have mental devices that work for me, whether they make sense to anyone else or not.
    An original 1873, in .44-40, no longer by me, was one of my favorite guns, but I didn’t carry mine with 6 rounds for the reason you’d understand. Just as an aside, my favorite gun, also no longer owned by me, for point shooting was an 1851 navy reproduction with a Richards conversion...balanced perfectly for me; something within 30-40’ of me, I could point, shoot and hit it without thinking.
    I have used, tuned, built, repaired, carried, a broad range guns for nearly 60 years. I have developed what works for me. What works for you, works for you, that it has is obvious from your posts.
    BTW, one thing prize in people, is someone that is both honest and tells me straight up their thinking whether it agrees with me or not. Makes for good debate, and is basis for friendship.
     
  2. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

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    Can such not be made at home by melting down copper wiring, and pouring it into easily available bullet molds in the desired caliber?
     
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    Bottom line was that you were unable to describe in any detail DA/SA operation. We all noticed. It was really a very simple question that was beyond you to answer.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Quite easily. Isn't that illegal though?
     
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    Not at all. Buffalo Bore, Barnes and Cor-Bon make commercial copper based bullets/cartridges.
     
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    Excep You never asked me about the trigger action. You asked me how it was for target shooting. To which I replied it was fine and even explained how some think the trigger pull is a bit heavy and that there is some trigger creep. Only a gun owner would know about trigger creep. But of course you ignored that and accused me of not answering you. You’re being disingenuous and you know it.
     
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    I like the Beretta 84 in 380

    easy to shoot accurately
    13 round capacity
    has the best safety system going, You can carry it hammer down with a 1911 style safety ON. this makes it a perfect gun for appendix carry assuming you can master the longer heavier trigger pull and wiping the safety off.

    the New Sig with double stack magazine is getting rave reviews

    I won't carry something like the Glock or an M&P in an IWB since there is no positive safety.
     
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    a satin finished 469 is what i used to end a mugging 33 years ago. great gun
     
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    I asked you to describe the trigger. You couldn't.
     
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    I am your freind first.

    And I know I am not as proficient as you.

    I need simple.
    And the fastest first shot.
    N.Y. reload, a second loaded firearm. lol,
    Works if a semiautomatic jams too.
     
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    No you didn’t. You asked me how I liked it for target shooting. And again, I talked about trigger creep and how heavy some felt the trigger was. You just choose to ignore that and keep saying I never answered you.
    It was only when I came in here and saw your snide remark to another poster that I saw what you really wanted to know but never actually asked. Once I knew that I explained it was DA/SA with a de-cocker and no safety. You’re just playing games and everyone sees it.
     
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    Are they solid?
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    After a small amount of research, it appears the ATF tried to ban solid copper or brass in certain calibers some years ago and got hammered so hard for it that they dropped the whole thing. Ill have to verify that, but... sweet.
     
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    Except he is not playing games and I respect his knowedge.

    You said I was suspect for being attacked, that truly shows your distinct lack of acumen.
     
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    You can turn brass and copper bullets in a lathe easier with better consistency, maybe experiment with different cores too.
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    I sense affinity.
    As for me being more proficient, it’s not a contest and who knows; I know a major factor is you are still with us, and have survived what many armchair... not hard to see that. In Ireland we have a saying,
    ‘Aithníonn ciaróg ciaróg eile’, it means, One beetle recognises another. There are a few here that write from knowledge and experience and many that repeating the stuff of indoctrination; over time it’s not difficult to figure who knows what.
    I sometimes have along a NY reload, a .22 mag NAA Pug that is almost always in either my front pocket or by my wallet; my magic gun... it can suddenly appear with with a bit of a slight of hand...carried for many years as a last ditch hedge, but I have never actually deployed it... hope I never have to.
    BTW, one thing few talk about, but I suspect you know, speed is not just in the draw and operation of the weapon you are carrying, but also a factor of commitment. A quote I remember from a John Wayne movie, the Shootist, has his character say something similar to, ‘some men will hestitate just before they kill you; I won’t’. In any action, whether with fists, knives or guns, that is the edge. Many without the experience don’t know what they do, those that have survived an experience know what they are capable of doing and have the edge.
     
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    No, no...as usual you don’t understand. What I think is suspect is that you seem to get attacked quite a bit going about your day. Never known anyone who gets ‘attacked’ as much as you.
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    Rather than make an insinuating statement you could have asked the circumstances, some he’s posted. I doubt his being attract was his first choice.
    I have been in a lot of altercations, more than most I know. They were the product of being raised in conflict in the North of Ireland on a conduit street between two antagonist groups, later in life because I owned a pub/night club, in part because I am of smaller stature, and because I don’t run from threats or trouble.
    I have never initiated a violent confrontation, victimized another, nor have I failed to render assistance to someone being victimized when I have observed it. But despite that, I have become proficient at de escalation (attributed to my years as a pub owner).
    There is underlying insinuation of your ‘suspect’ statement not unlike blaming a victim for being raped.
     
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    No what I was referring to actually
     
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    You've never owned a bar.
     
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    No, HP's, however Buffalo Bore makes hard cast solids that will get you where you want to go.
     
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    This is my EDC and I love it...

    Smitth & Wesson M&P 9 Shield
     
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    And? Never owned one but worked many all through college and many years after.
    But your getting off topic as usual
     
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    No, a real bar, not a college hangout or fru fru place. Waterfront, blue collar, ethnic or various foreign locales.
     
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    I don’t know what a fru fru place is. Apparently you’re familiar though

    And again....you’re getting off topic of the thread.
     
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