pride parade canceled because KIDS aren't allowed

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  1. Green Man

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    That's just a public librarian's union march.
     
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    Humans are very arrogant self centred animals. I get tired of them sometimes. The very idea that they coined the word "humane" to mean good... is pretty sick.
     
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    LMFAO :) Do you write your own material :)

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    Democrats importing scab labor won't help either.
     
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    Woops!

    But, that is a clear and thoroughly analyzed example of the failure of the direction proposed - an important trial of that kind of direction.

    That isn't an accusation against Trump. The methods he used are commonly proposed by right wingers who simply do not understand capitalism and the FACT that there is a global economy of which we are a part.
     
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    I support the direction on that proposed by the Comprehensive Immigration Reform bill of 2013 which was created by bipartisan committees in the House and Senate.

    The truth found during that exercise is that business interests in America were absolutely DEMANDING of temporary employment for periods of more than a year by citizens of other countries - primarily Mexico. They want to be able to discard this labor at their full discretion, resulting in immediate deportation. Clearly there is a long list of problems with this direction involving healthcare, taxes, how to ensure payment of wages, the inability to lobby for better conditions (as that is solved by deportation), Etc.

    Claiming that is a Democratic party direction is nonsense. This demand came from the US Chamber of Commerce and other strong right wing business interests. Plus, it's long been known that agriculture depends on this labor. Agricultural requires skilled labor - we just don't recognize the skills involved.

    As for me, the plans for having foreigners come here for short term labor have giant holes.
     
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    Whatever LMAO ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    Of course the Chamber of Commerce endorses scabs
     
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    And a global economy from which we should disengage.
     
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    Scabs are workers who defy unions.

    The 2013 immigration reform bill provides a controlled process for use of temporary foreign labor. It includes methods of reducing the conflict with citizen labor and includes tracking to ensure reasonable return (as temp labor can be abused by those who come here and then simply don't leave).

    Entirely resisting that isn't in the cards due to the needs of certain sectors, primarily agriculture. But, it can be controlled such that it isn't nearly as competitive with citizen labor and isn't just a way through the door.
     
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    That is not even slightly possible. It should not even be discussed any more than the idea that America is about to move to Mars.

    We depend on the world market as both suppliers and consumers.

    All our significant corporations have serious business involvement around the world, and we're not going to destroy those businesses.

    Our national security is involved in this trade, as it creates partners and dependencies.

    Our standard of living depends on this world market, as does the standard of living of other countries.

    Not even our founders were interested in economic separation from the world market as was clearly laid out in our Declaration of Independence. We didn't even want economic separation from England - with whom we were about to go to war.
     
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    Because with these weirdos it’s all about acceptance and victimhood. Sprinkle in a little fetishism and you have the entire movement in a nutshell. There would not be such a thing as transweirdoism if there were no one around to point and laugh thereby claiming some victimhood. This is why it’s such a big deal for them to be seen. Secretly they don’t want acceptance. They want the victim status much more.
     
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    I haven't seen evidence that they are obsessed with kids.

    And, the idea that they want to be "victims" of something is just plain stupid.
     
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    If they weren’t obsessed with kids we wouldn’t need to make laws protecting kids from their drag shows.
    And yes they do require victim status
     
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    '#Antifa and supporters of children’s pride events retreated following a fight outside Saticoy Elementary in Los Angeles. Mostly Armenian-American families gathered to protest the school’s pride celebrations.'

    Anti-Grooming parents lawfully pushed the lawbreakers into the arms of the police.
     
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    Then laws forbidding adult sex shows aimed at children shouldn't be a problem for them.
     
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    Yes - they gave deference to the community.

    But, there is no "grooming".

    That's a concept that has been shown to be totally without validity.

    In fact, various religions have tried to have facilities to change a kid's sexuality through all means, including brutality. It just doesn't work.
     
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    It's not us trying to change their gender through pharmaceutical and surgical conversion therapy. Just leave the kids ALONE. Did it ever enter your mind that they might simply be gay or lesbian and that they actually don't need their peckers and breasts sliced off by the Gender Surgery Industry?

    Not even a lot of the Left buys this radical Trans Cult crap.

    Most Americans Oppose Transgender Agenda

    '71% of American Adults agree with the statement that "there are two genders, male and female."

    It's not us claiming that a bunch of greedy quacks with drugs and knives can change someone's gender, they cannot. Though they can destroy the child and make a LOT of money doing it. Why do you buy in on every one of these obviously crazed fads?

    'By a 3-to-1 margin, Americans believe there are only two genders, and a majority support laws against transgender treatment for minors.'
     
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    This agenda stuff is nonsense. You can't change a kid's sexuality. As I pointed out, religious groups have put a LOT OF EFFORT into doing that. They resorted to hugely abusive techniques and everything else they could possibly figure out. And, they FAILED.

    If those religious groups can't do it, then some public school certainly can not do it. Period.

    Yes, there are a lot of people who aren't aware that the "only two genders" thing is just biologically false.

    And, that IS a problem.

    Anytime we start writing laws against who a person IS in terms of their physical composition, it's a blatant civil rights problem.

    And, failing to know biology is not an excuse.
     
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    Then why slice them up?
     
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    The Link Between Transgenderism And Nazism

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    'Erwin Gohrbandt, who performed sex changes at Hirschfeld's clinic, went on to perform medical experiments on concentration camp prisoners at Dachau for the Nazis.'

    'Trans Healthcare and the Nazis. The LGBTQ+ lobby likes to claim trans people were a key target of the Nazis. They weren't. In fact, trans healthcare was pioneered by a champion of eugenics, and a surgeon who designed experiments at Dachau. His victims there were not trans.'

    'Magnus Hirschfeld, the Jewish, gay sexologist is constantly lauded by the LGBTQ+ lobby as the first ever prophet of "gender reassignment" medicine. What is often ignored is that he was also a passionate campaigner for the sterilisation of those he considered "unfit to breed".'
     
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    That is an ENTIRELY separate issue.

    If you want to campaign against that kind of surgery, then do that.

    But, you haven't been doing that. You have been denying that LGBTQ exists AND suggesting that someone's sexuality can be changed by contact from a teacher in a classroom or seeing a parade!!!


    I might not oppose you on the surgery issue, depending on exactly what your position is. But, in checking hospital policy I find that doctors are HIGHLY resistant to sexual assignment surgery on prepubescent kids, requiring a range of alternatives, counseling, wait periods, etc., before considering that.

    You can't just ask a doctor to cut something and expect that they will do that - even as an adult. It just doesn't work that way.
     
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    I am, and against adult sex shows aimed at children.
    Fake news. I never claimed that Lesbians, Gays and Bi's don't exist.
    More fake news. Like nearly all Americans, I don't want children groomed into gender confusion by the radical teachers unions and put into the surgical pipeline for genital destruction by the Gender Surgery industry. They aren't actually changing anything, they are just amputating perfectly healthy body parts and destroying their health, they remain male and female as coded in their DNA. It's you who are promoting conversion therapy, I'm say leaving the children the hell alone.
    Good! Prohibitions on slicing up minors shouldn't be an issue.
     
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    Yes, there is a horrible history of treatment of those who are LGBTQ.

    Even today, we have countries like Uganda, where those who are same sex oriented may be executed.

    The difference is that first world nations are far better informed on the biology and are interested in equal treatment under the law.
     
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    Well, let's not groom and slice up the kids. And let's not have adult sex shows that perv on children.
     

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