Prove Flight 93 was a bunker buster

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  1. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    thats it

    planes that hide underground.

    It has a new warhead!

    People armed bunker buster?

    Lets see how many planes can be a bunker buster?

    dang it I cant find even one example, not one photo, not a one.

    another 911 fantasy?! LOL
     
  2. NAB

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    A++

    Would read again.
     
  3. DDave

    DDave Well-Known Member

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    The stench of dirty socks is getting overwhelming.
     
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    suede Banned

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    Lol, nice! But did you read how they said the plane crashed and buried? Check this nonsense out:

    "The explanation was, when the plane came in, it was coming low. It banked at a 90deg angle -- allegedly from the people, from the struggle in the cockpit.
    The right wing hit the ground right there were the impact area is and as that happened, it took the front end...[does cartwheel hand gesture].
    The front 1/3 of the plane, including the cockpit, slammed into the ground off of the wing and the front 1/3 broke off and flew up into the trees and there was a fireball behind it and the remaining 2/3'rds went down in the ground." - Wally Miller, interviewed by Dominick DiMaggio (Sept. 2008 )

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsJ0EFezBW4"]Wally Miller gives official explanation how Flight 93 allegedly crashed - YouTube[/ame]

    I can't believe the skeptics believe this bull(*)(*)(*)(*)! :-D
     
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    Skeptics, do you believe that's how 93 crash?

    Do you have any evidence almost all of it buried?
     
  6. Hannibal

    Hannibal New Member

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    Evidence Summary: 10 Points

    1) The four hijackers purchased tickets under their own names and boarded the plane. One was randomly selected for and passed additional security screening. Ziad Jarrah was a licensed pilot and had recent training on professional large jet flight simulators. United flight 93 was scheduled to depart at 8:00 am, but left 42 minutes late due to airport traffic. Aboard were 33 passengers, 7 crew members, and 4 hijackers.

    2) Several passengers and crew called from the plane, spoke with loved ones, described the hijackers' attack, and related their plan to try to retake the plane so that it would not be used as a suicide weapon against a populated area. All but two of these calls were made using the plane's seatback Airfones.

    3) The cockpit voice recorder recorded the hijackers' attack and apparent murder of the pilots and a flight attendant. Air traffic controllers heard a radio transmission by a man with an Arabic accent, warning of a bomb on board. Passengers reported that one of the hijackers had what appeared to be a bomb strapped to him.

    4) After learning about the other attacks, passengers and cabin crew attempted to retake the cockpit but were apparently unable to gain entry. The sound of their attempts was recorded on the CVR. The CVR also recorded the hijackers' decision to end the flight, followed by repeated shouts of "Allahu Akbar!" ("God is greatest.") until the plane crashed. Families of victims heard the CVR recording.

    5) Flight 93 was tracked by radar until it went down.

    6) Many people in Pennsylvania saw the Boeing 757, traveling at low altitude and high speed, roll to the right and plummet upside-down, nose first, towards the ground. Many people witnessed the subsequent enormous explosion and fireball. Val McClatchey photographed the mushroom cloud.

    7) Hundreds of first responders (mostly volunteer firefighters) and crime scene investigators were quickly on the scene. They saw human remains, aircraft wreckage, personal effects, jet fuel, etc.
    The cockpit voice recorder and flight data recorder were recovered and had usable data, all of which is consistent with the other evidence.

    8 The remains of every victim was positively identified. Somerset County Coroner Wallace Miller personally collected many remains and made 12 identifications through fingerprints and dental records. Personal effects of most passengers and crew were recovered and returned to their families.

    9) Hijacker identification documents and personal effects were recovered, along with the remains of four people identified as the hijackers through the process of elimination.

    10) Nearly all of the aircraft was recovered by professional investigators and by civilians. The debris was returned to United Airlines after being examined for evidence of explosives use.

    At Shanksville, which was by far the smallest of the three 9/11 crash scenes, over 1,100 people from 74 agencies and organizations worked at the scene. Including civilian volunteers, many of whom joined an organized effort to collect aircraft parts, the number of crash scene workers reaches well over 1,500.

    On 9/11 alone, these included: • 8 Police Departments • 7 EMS Services • 8 Fire Departments • 10 Emergency Management Agencies • NTSB • ATF • FBI • CISM • Red Cross • United Airlines

    Contact information for some flight 93 crash scene responders

    Shanksville Volunteer Fire Co, Shanksville, PA 15560.

    Somerset County Emergency Services 100 East Union Street, Somerset, PA 15501

    Westmoreland County Dept. of Emergency Management 12 Court House Square Greensburg, PA 15601

    Pennsylvania Emergency Management Agency Harrisburg, PA 17101
     
  7. suede

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    Skeptics, do you believe that's how 93 crash?

    Do you have any evidence almost all of it buried?
     
  8. Hannibal

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    So easy just to contact the people who were there.

    Unless you have a different agenda, that is.
     
  9. suede

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    Skeptics have and hard time reading. Let's try again:

    Skeptics, do you believe that's how 93 crash?

    Do you have any evidence almost all of it buried?
     
  10. Hannibal

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    Yes. The evidence is with the sources provided to you. Repeatedly.

    Fear not; contact them and see for yourself.
     
  11. l4zarus

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    Congratulations. You did a Youtube Search for Wally Miller and cherry picked one of the troofer videos in the results to support your preconceived ideas. Here's another one:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkYOk3zxf54"]9/11 : The Shanksville Files Vol II : Wally Miller [preview] - YouTube[/ame]

    But why not this one?

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIGDaBwf0Ko"]WHAT 'WALLY MILLER' REALLY SAID - YouTube[/ame]


    All the so called "discrepancies" are pretty much laid to rest.

    Or one could(crazy idea) talk to the people who were at the scene.
     
  12. DDave

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    "Cherry picked" and "truthers" go together like peanut butter and jelly. They've made quite a lot of noise cherry picking facts and quote mining statements to support their little charade.

    Problem is when all you do is sit around and yell "We don't really know how it happened but we know it didn't happen the way the "government" said it did", before long people stop listening.
     
  13. l4zarus

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    True. A follow up google search has the first result is a slightly less crazy looking wiki as the first result : 911review.org/Wiki/Flight93Somerset.shtml

    but the main website is um "out there" to put it politely: http://911review.org

    And has ads for conspiracy shirts and gothic clothing. Not that anything is wrong with that...

    I guess the question that comes up is why is Wally's testimony or whatever even in question? Where did this idea come from? It looks invented by a handful of kooks.
     
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    Just noticed this: the Wally Miller Video links to a video debunking something called September Clues

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=823734902101057550&h l=en-CA

    Which has got to be a joke or parody....never seen anything so inane...I mean insane...
     
  15. JohnO

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    At one point I was skeptical about the plane crashing into the Pentagon, but after doing my own research and getting past the conspiracy nonsense you do find pictures of wreckage. I do think there is a reason the government does not show video of it crashing though and just an explosion.
     
  16. DDave

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    Because the truther kooks have no evidence to refute it.

    Truther kooks.

    Yep.

    It's been 10 long years and they've been completely unable to convince anyone who matters of their crazy theories.

    Pretty much sums it up.
     
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    Skeptics, do you believe that's how 93 crash?

    Do you have any evidence almost all of it buried?
     
  18. DDave

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    Do you have any evidence that the debris were planted?
     
  19. NAB

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    You should totally start a thread on that topic.
     
  20. suede

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    Skeptics, do you believe that's how 93 crash?

    Do you have any evidence almost all of it buried?
     
  21. Hannibal

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    Sources have been provided, why do you continue to flee and spam?

    Don't be a coward, go directly to the sources.
     
  22. DDave

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    Do you have any evidence that the debris were planted?
     
  23. suede

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    Right, don't be a coward and answer these questions you continue to sidestep:

    Skeptics, do you believe that's how 93 crash?

    Do you have any evidence almost all of it buried?
     
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    Yes I do.

    Now...

    Skeptics, do you believe that's how 93 crash?

    Do you have any evidence almost all of it buried?
     
  25. Hannibal

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    Answered and sourced.
     
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