"Prove God Exists"

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  1. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

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    It's a FACT.

    Run a search on the word APE.

    Human's are Great Apes.

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    Well you can Biochemically.

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  2. Beast Mode

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    Ignore my question if you want to, but, so what? J.K. Rowlings made a neat story about teen wizards. There's no connection to say that Harry Potter should care if she exists? I don't see the connection between existance and purpose.

    Whom? Which "Him" imaginary creature are we talking about know?

    It must suck, for you, to always be on the side of the imaginary? :blankstare:
     
  3. Swensson

    Swensson Devil's advocate

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    Believers in God is proof that belief in God exists. Just like secular humanists are proof that secular humanism exists, and Nazis are proof that Nazism exists. That in itself has no bearing on whether it is true.

    What other avenues do you propose, which good reason to believe can be derived from?
     
  4. Goomba

    Goomba Well-Known Member

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    I just want to make sure we're on the same page. We are dealing with God as a concept now- not a being. So, evidence has nothing to do with it.
     
  5. Questerr

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    Sure. We are dealing with one of the millions of concepts of God.
     
  6. Goomba

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    I answered your daft question. The problem here is that you- as an atheist- cannot help but mock and ridicule. It's completely natural, so don't you worry.
     
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    I'd like an answer...."Which 'God'?"

    Could it be "Zeus" or "Shangdi"...

    or does it ONLY apply to the entity described in the Old and New Testaments (who Himself is portrayed as having dual personalities, one tribalistic and vindictive...the other loving and merciful and inclusive)?
     
  8. Goomba

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    You say that as if it means something.
     
  9. Questerr

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    It does mean something. When you are dealing with various concepts of God, "superior" is subjective.
     
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    I still don't see the difference between the Bible and fiction. You can say that your faith doesn't come from the Bible and that would be consistant. But if you claim there is something that is special about that particular fiction then that comes with it's own Pandora's Box of problems. The least of which is the historical claims, not to mention the metaphysical claims. Note I used the word "claims", because that's the foundation of what it is.
     
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    I agree, everybody knows God exists in their heart, they just refuse to admit it. Full of lies and deception, while at the same time knowing God is watching. Merely making excuses for the behavior they wish to proceed with. God said He created earth and everything therein, so that we are without excuse. People know just by observing and taking in life on earth, and how everything must work together for life to continue, is in itself self evident for everybody of God the creator. They are without excuse, yet full of them.
     
  13. Goomba

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    Not when the attributes and inherent nature of God prove to be dominant over anything else.
     
  14. Goomba

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    So choose.

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    I didn't bring religion into it, and I'm not a Christian.

    I'm talking about God, end of.
     
  15. Ronstar

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    this is a joke, right?

    or maybe an Islamist attempt at sophistry.

    you cannot honestly or intellectually compare the belief in a super-natural higher power that talks to persons and controls daily events on earth, to a political belief system.
     
  16. Ronstar

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    communism is an idea.

    is God now merely an idea?

    no, God is supposedly an entity that has measurable properties, unlike ideas that are mere thoughts.

    so unless God is merely an idea, this thread is silly.
     
  17. Goomba

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    Well, sure, but whether it is true or not doesn't make people stop believe in these things. It just so happens however that only God is the Truth.

    I don't understand (perhaps I do) why atheists think that just because there are so many truths out there, there's no point in considering God.
     
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    Again, entirely subjective. There are thousands of concepts of God that includes omniscience and omnipotence.
     
  19. Junkieturtle

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    If someone could prove God existed, God would be part of science, not religion.
     
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    Alright, I'd like you to provide me with a solitary concept of god that can equate to the majesty of God.
     
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    let us know when there is any evidence for his physical/measurable existence in the Universe
     
  22. Goomba

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    Reread the entire thread and come back to me.
     
  23. Ronstar

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    i did.

    there is no physical or measurable evidence for the existence of your so-called "God".

    admit it, and move on
     
  24. Goomba

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    If you did, you would have realized that that wasn't the point whatsoever.

    But I'll give you this: Prove to me there is only one reality.
     
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    Beleif systems have nothing to do with whether the object of the beleif exists.

    God may not exist but Belief in God exists. Many people beleive that Communism is possible..I think Its nonsense.
     

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