"Prove God Exists"

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    stop changing the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing subject.

    do you have physical/measurable evidence for the existance of God or not?

    no, you do not.

    let me know when you do, cause until then your Allah can go to Hell cause it ain't real.
     
  2. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

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    Provide proof for this supposed majesty.
     
  3. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Why. You keep bringing God up as if we should know what you're talking about.
    When you are asked to clarify. You can't. Because I don't think you actually know or believe.
    You said you were an atheist, now you're a theist but can't say who God is. So choose.
     
  4. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    when did he claim to be an Atheist?
     
  5. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Many atheists have considered God. They started out in a religion that had a God.

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    What majesty?
     
  6. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    He said he was an atheist before he Muslim.
     
  7. Goomba

    Goomba Well-Known Member

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    There we go again.

    The evidence is not necessary! Believers operate under the premise that there are two realities: the present and True Reality. This Reality is called God, and God alone is the Truth that dominates all other Truths. That's the whole concept!

    Atheists believe that there is only the physical world. They have no evidence that there is one reality, but they nevertheless operate under that premise. That's the "truth" Atheism clings to, and they believe that there are no other possibilities. In other words, they worship their own god.
     
  8. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    which comic book did u read this from?
     
  9. Goomba

    Goomba Well-Known Member

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    The troll is back.
     
  10. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    sorry bro, but your comments are often just ridiculous.

    "Believers operate under the premise that there are two realities: the present and True Reality"


    wtf are you talking about???
     
  11. Beast Mode

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    Ok, I assumed it was acceptable to make wrong assumptions here. :blankstare:

    Let me rephrase it then: I don't see the difference between God and all the other imaginary things in the metaphysical void?
     
  12. Swensson

    Swensson Devil's advocate

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    I don't see how this answers my request for alternate routes of deriving reasons for belief.

    If God is many of the things he is often portrayed to be, love, truth, creator of the universe and so on, atheists already consider those things, but without putting an additional semantic label on it.
     
  13. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

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    What is value in believing something for which there is no evidence?

    What evidence do you have that there are other realities and why should I or anyone else believe they exist?
     
  14. dairyair

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    So basically saying believers are delusional. But I want to qualify that, I don't think that, I think some who believe are, and those who try to present something called truth as truth for all mankind are indeed delusional.
    There are a few in theses very forums.
    Why is delusion needed to believe in your deity?
     
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    Electron Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bold claims. Bold, unsubstantiated claims.
     
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    You know who doesn't wish a loving and forgiving GOD exists?

    And who doesn't hope and afterlife exists as well?

    But all evidence is to the contrary.

    This doesn't mean it's not possible but it is highly improbable.

    AA
     
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    For most of mankind's existence, everyone believed the Earth was flat and the Sun orbited the Earth. But truth is not found by taking an opinion survey.

    A wild guess is sometimes correct, but wouldn't bet on it.
     
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    He confuses TRUTH with FACT.

    Truth is SUBJECTIVE.

    Fact is REALITY.

    AA
     
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    So, Thor exists? Loki exists? Neptune exists? Hera exists?
     
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    Wrong.

    There ARE EMPIRICAL evidences that support creation by God. The following is an excerpt from an official statement made by the National Academy of Sciences. Go to the thread, there is more to that statement.


    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...ciences-says-there-evidence-creation-god.html


    If science says there are evidences for creation by God.....what's the basis for your opinion? None.
     
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    So you will have no problem giving us some of this evidence
     
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    Maybe God IS evident to you and that is why you need to discount his presence. You cannot disprove God's existence, so you feel comfortable denying it. Presupposing that the truth is self evident, can you explain YOUR existence? Man had to come from somewhere, ultimately, did he not?
     
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    Don't hold your breath with that one.
     
  24. tecoyah

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    As this thread is obviously directed toward the exact opposite of your statement, it is obvious your intent is to sideline. Nevertheless, human existence is a result of extremely long periods of time allowing for extremely complex and varied chemical reactions forming self replicating molecular organisms that began further adaptations over extremely long periods of time and geological changes which forced additional changes through the simple concept of survival.

    ~OR~

    Your God Did It.
     
  25. clarkeT

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    "So, why is God particular scrutinized? I think it's because atheists deliberately equate God to a being, and a being alone. They need to belittle God in order to not ***take Him seriously***."

    So who's trying to equate 'God' to a being with question and subsequent answer. But what else would one expect from a 'being' who equates himself to that of a Goomba with such moniker?
     

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