Prove to me how Islam is not the most violent religion

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  1. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So will you answer the question?
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So are all MSH hypocrites because they will not call for Jews and Christians to renounce the violent sections of their books like they call for Muslims to do?
     
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    Yes, a sane person would renounce the violent offenders in those books....such as Moses (killed 3000 innocent people), Yahweh, Allah, Muhammad, David, etc. Otherwise they are like a Nazi who claims to be an ethical person but steadfastly refuses to condemn Hitler.
     
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    Christians and Jews should indeed renounce the barbaric parts of their texts, just like Muslims should do. To not do so is intellectual cowardice.
     
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    Please see post #153.
     
  6. RiaRaeb

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    So Trump is an intellectual coward.
     
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    If he's a follower of an Abrahamic faith, then yes.....so would Nancy and Chuck be, too.
     
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    So leftists are hypocrites and rightists are intellectual cowards got it. Thanks for explaining.
     
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    One has to work even harder to convince themselves that a war fought almost entirely by Christians does not prove that Christians are extremely violent.
     
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    You have failed to persuade me. I've made my point. You can disagree.
     
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    No. You missed my point. Your claim is in direct conflict with the evidence. Really.

    Why do you think Christians in the region are being singled out for slaughter?
     
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    "Death to the infidels" means God is Great? I haven't seen that interpretation before.
     
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    It was based on a culture. They also gassed gypsies and gay people.

    You might want to learn some history. The idea was racial purity. German Jews were not racially/culturally pure.
     
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    Who started WW1 and WW2?

    Show how a religion played the central role in either of those wars.

    Why not just state that the most violent people have white skin?

    Would that be fair, or would the fact humans with white skin represent the majority of the population be something to consider?
     
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    It's not hard to understand.
    But gassing Jews, was a result of WW1? If so, as one already said, then Christian countries were fighting christian countries And why did Lutheran based Germany, pick on Jewish religous people and kill them.
     
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    That did happen. What also happened in Christian countries was the flourishing of arts, literature, philosophy, medicine, technology, navigation, publishing, human rights, ship-building, trade, science, architecture, representative government, agriculture, the establishment of English common law, etc....

    The latest poll in Great Britain shows that more than half of their Muslim population supports outlawing homosexuality. They are also the fastest growing demographic in that country. If you are a liberal and do not recognize this as a serious problem for Great Britain's future, I am curious to know the reasoning behind your lack of concern.
     
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    Allah Akbar means God is great. That's always how it's translated.
     
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    I knew that before. I included two other phrases that are commonly used. I sure you saw them.
     
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    Death to infidels is BS. It's ISIS not Islam.
     
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    No gassing Jews was a result of racist Nazi ideology that considered Jews a race, subhuman, and therefore unworthy of life. I guess sending gypsies, Russia POWs, the mentally disabled, and all sorts of undesirables to the gas chambers was based on religious intolerance as well?
    Read the Nuremberg Laws, that the Nazis used to justify persecution of Jews. Never once is there any mention of religious motivations. The Nuremberg laws were all based of some pseudo racial science nonsense.
     
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    Really?



     
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    They're not! Terrorists target more Muslims than Christians.

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/mus...lobal-terrorism-researchers/story?id=48131273

    As a matter of fact, they don't even target Christians. They just target.... whoever happens to be in the crowded place.

    Think! If terrorists wanted to target Christians, why attack France, the U.K., the U.S.....? Why not attack countries with large Christian populations that are much easier targets! In just one soccer game in any Latin American country, they could do away with thousands of "infidels" in one blow. And security is much much more lax there.

    You hear about terrorist attacks on Mosques all the time. You rarely hear about an attack on a Christian Church. Muslims are the most targeted group by terrorists.

    All these facts escape you, despite the fact that they are shown over and over. The reason you don't pay attention is that the wingnut media doesn't want you to pay attention.
     
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    I didn't claim they weren't killing each other did I? So why lurch off in that direction?

    Don't target Christians?

    Explain why so many articles like this one are lying to the public?

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...lee-persecution-warn-Catholic-aid-groups.html
     
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    Depends on who you ask.

    But what cannot be disputed is that WWI and WWII were wars fought predominately by Christians against other Christians.

    As I already said, most of the people who fought in those wars were Christians. So unless you are going to argue that being a Christian is something one does casually and selectively, I'm not sure how you can deny the major influence that Christianity had to have on the initiation of those wars. I mean, aren't Christians always telling everyone that western civilization as we know it today is a direct result of "Judeo-Christian values" and the like? Yet when it comes time to take responsibility for all the wars that western civilization has fought, suddenly those same values have nothing to do with it. How convenient for Christians. They get to take credit for all the good and none of the bad.

    I'm not sure what you mean.
     
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    I made it pretty clear. Why not just pick some other abundant trait of those who fought in WW1 and 2? Why Christian. Wouldn't it be true that the majority of all who fought would be classified as White, at least in the European Theater?
     

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