Psychiatrist famous for declassifying homosexuality as mental illness ...........

Well, homosexuality is not a mental illness. He did a good thing by removing it from the mental illness list, may he rest in peace.

 

No it's not. It's subconscious. I don't choose which hand I am better at using. I just am better at it.

And it isn't genetic.

 

You quoted my post that clearly discussed Christianity and homosexuality so I responded. Now you accuse me of making it about religion and putting words into your mouth......right. So dishonest.

Clearly I asked you if you had other, non-religious reason because even though you pulled a quote discussing religion, I didn't presume those were your motives. Keep up with your own rebuttals, Leeroy.

There isn't any proof that it isn't a genetic cause for being homosexual. I don't FEEL that there is. I am taking the word of gays when they tell me it comes naturally because there is no proof that it doesn't. You're the one saying they are lying and the onus is on you to prove it, not them.

 

No see im not reading the rest of this, I came at you with nothing but a simple question, stop going the bottom of the barrell route to avoid mistakes you made.

Again, where is the proof. My post had one point and it was VERY clear.

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No you chose what led to you being more comfortable with which hand. Unconscious choice or not, and that let to it being subconscious. You dont just suddenly use your left hand to do sn activity you could have never known about your entire life. No one is born knowing how to write or what writing is they are taught.

 

My post is absolutely relevant to the conversation you quoted.

If you want to change the conversation feel free but give me a heads up. Thanks.

 

The difference is personal harm. I agree wtf

Most gay people say they did not choose to be gay (there was no conscience decision). It could be hormonal in the womb, environmental, societal factors, genetics, or any number of theories.
You side has yet to prove homosexuality is a mental illness as it fails the basic methodology of classification. Which is another reason it was quickly declassified as such once it's basis was called into question.

 

There need be no arbiter. All of the various denominations have people who follow Christ's tenets and all have some who don't.

 

Do you understand how stupid the phrase "unconscious choice" is?

 

There are people who are born left handed or right handed and learn to be ambidextrous.

Homosexuality is deviant sexual behavior just as is pedophilia. Mental illness is natural. People are born with it they certainly dont choose it. So even if they are born with it , it doesnt change that

Is wanting to screw a sheep a mental illness? Its only another form of deviant sexual behavior.

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Do people choose to be pedophiles or are they born that way. How about serial killers?

 

Again, if you think rape and murder (i.e. Violations of the rights of others) are the same as consensual sex, please kill yourself before you "consensual sex" another person against their will.

 

I think he did a service to the country by getting homosexuality taken off the list of mental illnesses; other wise every homosexual in the country would be eligible for social security benefits by 'virtue' of their mental illness.

 

People die because of being homosexual . They can also lead to the deaths of others. How about bestiality? Who does that hurt?

 

It's amusing to read a thread like this in 2016. I imagine that people might research things like this thread 40 years from now just how we look at KKK manifestos from the 60's and wonder how people could be so close minded and ignorant.

At least the bigoted dinosaurs are identifying themselves. I guess repeating the lies about homosexuals and draping it in a false cloak of science is the only recourse the bigoted and ignorant among us have any more.

 

1. A person who is homosexual and does not have sex or who only has safe sex causes death how?

2. Can animals provide informed consent?

 

Just another instance of liberals trying to prove how open minded they are. To hell with the consequences as long as their intentions are good. What difference does it make if its considered a mental illness or not . Its just about making them feel normal.

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Thats the vast minority

Do we need their permission to kill and eat them? To harness them to a wagon ? Maybe they like getting boffed.

 

Actually homosexual safe sex would include almost all Lesbian sex given that they have even lower STD rates than Heteros, so no, it's not the vast minority.

Sex requires informed consent. If you do not have informed consent, you are raping someone. How (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up mentally are you cons that you put consensual sex with an adult on the same level as someone raping a child or animal.

I really (*)(*)(*)(*)ing hope you do not have kids or pets.

 

My only problem with lesbians is they wont let me join them

Now how about addressing gay men and their 20 year less life expectancy ?

 

Gay men who don't engage in behaviors that are considered risky for anyone in the population (unsafe sex, sex with many partners, etc) have the same life expectancy as anyone in their age/race demographic.

 

Again going to the small exception rather than the rule.

 

No, what I am doing again is pointing out how factors COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT FROM HOMOSEXUALITY ITSELF are the only things responsible for the harm that you claim comes from homosexuality.

 

They are not completely independent. Your not much of a homosexual if you dont have sex.

 

Just like how you aren't a heterosexual if you don't have sex? Jesus was what then?

Sexual orientation boils down to attraction not sex. Are you trying to claim that if you are heterosexual and have a dry streak, you suddenly stop being heterosexual?

 

Not much of one. How do you know if you dont try it ? If you have a dry streak you still have had sex.

Who knows. Some claim he was married to Mary Magdalene

 

Because attraction is an independent function of actually having sex. You don't have to have sex to be attracted to a gender and have an orientation. Millions of teenagers prove my case every single day.

 

It certainly helps. Millions of teens first sex is homosexual but they dont continue once they have tried a female. Again I claim we are are bi to one extent or another. Sex simply feels good and it alone can be an attraction. If Im attracted to a goat that does not make it normal.