Putin offers truce if Ukraine exits Russian-claimed areas and drops NATO bid. Kyiv rejects it

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  1. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    OK well let the war continue.
     
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    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    The war will continue as long one side issues ultimatums instead of real offers to negotiate.
     
  3. zoom_copter66

    zoom_copter66 Well-Known Member

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    What for its Ukrainian territory Mike....I see you're back here....no surprise. You're from Irkutsk?....or Novokuznetsk?.....I can't remember?

    Anyway....the bigger picture is the further decap of the RF....China's has already absorbed the Far East. Maybe Pootler will flee to NK? What says you?
     
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    If I understood what sort of a question you were asking, I might try to answer it.* The only part I understood clearly is no, I don't think "Pootler will flee to North Korea." I'm not sure what circumstances would lead to that outcome.



    * Do you write your comments in Georgian and then paste them in Google translate? If so, I don't think their translation software is quite there yet.
     
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    I think you do understand....but just choose to plead ignorance Mike.

    Ever since I outed you a while back over lying on ever being here,you pulled a disappearing act.:).

    I'm not from Georgia(former Soviet republic, that is), what would give you that idea.

    Atlanta Georgia is a great town....I've been there a couple of times.

    Well...I suspect Pootler will need to flee somewhere after this clown show is over. This isn't going to end well for the "Resource Federation"....much like the former USSR.
     
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  6. Lil Mike

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    Outed me? That's weird. And to think I pulled a disappearing act....

    Believe me, I've been all over this site lately. I don't have to go to an internet cafe in Tbilisi like you do!
     
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    That's weird....I thought internet cafes are a thing of the past, considering most everyone uses mobile devices now.

    But thanks for clarifying that Mike...seeing as how you're located in Pete or Moscow....I suspect internet cafes are still in use there?
     
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    Let’s face reality. Ukraine is doomed for sure since the events of this past Saturday have made the recent former POTUS Mr T the next POTUS after Biden either loses or the Mr. T’s forces are able to prevent certification of the November vote if by some miracle Binden wins.
     
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    ...there's a lot of if's and buts involved....the political and military and industrial calculus is pretty complex....even if the Orange crapbag gets in it's a reasonable bet that Ukraine will be able to continue their defence against a faltering Russian invasion....
     
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    Russia's population has decreased by 700,000 since the war begun, but they don't seem to give a rip.
     
  11. Lil Mike

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    I think the difference is that no one thinks that I'm not who I say I am, which is an American. In the 12 years or so that I've been here, I've posted on a variety of American issues. Meanwhile, no one believes you are from South Dakota and you've only ever posted about Russia.

    It's telling.
     
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    That's funny....I've received a few PMs from members questioning your "location"....

    I've also posted on numerous American issues, Mike, sure I post a lot on Russia. You seem to give them a "free pass"....which is telling.

    Who is "no one believes" Mike?...probably just you.
     
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    Pootler will sacrifice 10% or more of his population....human worth is worth less than toilet paper in RuZzia.
     
  14. Lil Mike

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    Heh, you have not received any PMs questioning my location!

    You should at least make your stories believable.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's weird seeing Americans support such guy, but it seems some people will support whatever they are told to support.
     
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    I receive numerous PMs Mike....whether you want to believe or not...that's on you.
     
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    I do like your optimism but the stars are not lining up too well for the land of my ancestors. Jd Vance who is the newly crowned Mr. Donald’s Veep candidate apparently is extremely anti Ukrainian and very pro Putin pro Russia. It is also true that Mr. Donald loves supporters and staff people who do not have any self respect and only mouth the beliefs of Mr. Donald. Unfortunately JD Vance has “lost” his old or prior beliefs and warnings about the radicalism of Mr. Donald and has been marching in lock step mouthing and maybe exceding the apparent radicalism of Mr. Donald which is extremely anti Ukrainian and anti NATO anti EU and pro Russia.
     
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    And or mimic the sentiment of their political heroes.
     
  19. zoom_copter66

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    Pretty much....easily brainwashed, and fed $hit.
     
  20. The Scotsman

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    ...I don't know much about this Vance guy but I'd bet he's just there to attract some demographic or another...certainly there's no room in the upper circle for anything that'll take the limelight and glory from Trump. I'd bet he's just a useful idiot put in place simply for the sake of there having to be a running mate.
    ...Trump's a very simple person. His only motivation is self glorification...he's just a petty little disruptor and basks in the glory of railling against things and people. He's not so good when things get cerebral and complicated so we can hope that those left around him with some semblance of intelligence will be able to hold his hand and point him in the right direction. Also, I'd be amazed if the Ukrainian foreign affairs and intelligence people haven't got a strategy in place to manage Trump - massage the guy's ego with some magical thinking and star spangled praise to the point where's on his tummy begging for the biscuit.
     
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    Yeah....true. Trump needs to be humored and "stroked"(not in that sense) ,but one gets the picture. Then you can probably get what you need outta him.
     
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    Putin's next offer to Ukrainians will soon be about Ukraine's unconditional surrender.
     
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    :roflol::roflol:, Ukraine just invaded and seized Kursk!!
     
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    The Pootster's war is already lost, and has been for some time. Ukraine has irrevocably turned away from Russia and toward the West. First will come EU membership, then NATO. The Pootster's foolishness has already resulted in a NATO that is bigger, stronger and closer to Russia than ever (Sweden, Finland). Ukraine's EU and NATO accessions will mark another step toward Russia's end as a great power and its slide into Chinese vassalage, recalling the period of the "Mongol Yoke."
     
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