Putin Ready to Surrender to Trump

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  1. stratego

    stratego Well-Known Member

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    My sources told me that Putin is ready to surrender to Trump or face the full force of the American military.

    The offer is on the table and Putin is likely to accept. To entice Russia into surrendering these offers are made.
    • Ukraine will not join NATO for another 75 years
    • Territories Ukraine lost cannot be conquered back, but must be negotiated back within the next 75 years
    • Sanction on Russia would be fully lifted
    • US withholds further weapons support to Ukraine
    • If Russia rejects then the US would fully use its military to support Ukraine
    • To support the rebuilding of the Ukrainian economy and government, Russia must send advisors to aid in the Ukrainian government AT RUSSIA'S EXPENSE
     
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    Who are your sources?
     
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    Shutcie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nah.
    Trump is a better negotiator than this.
     
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    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Any deal with Russia is a laughable concept since it makes its move based on fabrications. Particularly 75 years in advance lol.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Got a link?

    I find the notion of Putin "surrendering" to Trump quite hilarious, so thanks for the laugh. It's also amusing that anyone believes Trump would ever use "the full force of the American military" against Putin, one of the dictators Trump admires and wants to imitate.
     
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    Umm…the nature of Russian surrender is the Russians get what they want? wow.

    Basically we’re telling Russia to accept victory or else we’ll make them lose. Lol. Bizzarro world stuff.

    …and how expensive are advisors, exactly?



    Anyways, I think this is just made up but even at that, that’s some scary imagination
     
  7. Noone

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    That is a piss poor deal. TRaitor tRump would be a fool to offer it, because it would give pUtin a victory when he's facing defeat ... so that does give your OP credibility. If the "full force of the American military" has been threatened it just on more thing that proves that nothing tRaitor tRump is credited for is factual.
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    The other option is: Ukraine fights to the end and is forced to surrender the entire country, unconditionally, to Russia. Like it, or not, that's exactly where thing are headed.
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    Ukraine's total capitulation is the alternative.
     
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    Noone Well-Known Member

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    You should know, Ukraine is winning the war, pUtin is on the ropes and his government is about to collapse.
    Which our NATO allies will never stand for; with or without tRaitor tRump.
     
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    Sheesh. What have the Ukrainian people done to you that you would wish Putin on them? Is Putin a hero or something?
     
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    That sounds more like Trump surrendering to Putin, than vice versa, since it has everything Russia wants and nothing for anyone else
     
  13. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    I'm not "wishing" anything. I'm just pointing out the reality of the situation. And the reality is: Ukraine cannot win the war and force Russia out of all occupied real estate.
     
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    In other words, Trump is threatening Putin with the total and unconditional surrender of Ukraine!
     
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    Hide and watch.
     
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    I don't know how you figure that.

    If the European countries want to get involved, then that's their prerogative. I doubt they do, though.
     
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    I am watching and Ukraine is slowly loosing. The Russians are steadily advancing.
     
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    I read and listen.
    They AbsaByGodLutely do and will.
    No, they are not. Russia is at the end of it's rope, it's barely holding on to what it's gained. NATO will not stand for a Russia takeover of Ukraine.
    No! What cannot and will not happen is tRaitor tRump forcing a bad peace deal on Ukraine. IF tRaitor tRump try's to force the OP deal on Ukraine, Ukraine and NATO will laugh at him.

    All that remains to be seen is where pUtin and aSsad end up after Russia kicks their ass's out.
     
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    You have bad sources.

    They best hurry, because time is running out fast.

    Not only is Russia holding its gains, it's taking more real estate.

    Not nearly as bad as the alternative.
     
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    We'll see.
    For pUtin
    No, it's not.
    NATO and Ukraine will not stand for anything like what's described in the OP.
     
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    Even if Trump cuts off all US aid to Ukraine, I doubt all of Europe will do the same. Many European nations are aware of the evil of Putin. The reality is that Russia and Ukraine BOTH get weaker every day this war continues.

    "Former President Donald Trump on Tuesday [in 2022] described Russian President Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine as “genius” and “savvy,” praising his onetime counterpart for a move that has spurred sanctions and universal condemnation from the U.S. government and its trans-Atlantic allies.

    “I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, ‘This is genius.’ Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine...as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful,” Trump said in a radio interview with “The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.” “He used the word ‘independent’ and ‘we’re gonna go out and we’re gonna go in and we’re gonna help keep peace.’ You gotta say that’s pretty savvy.”

    Trump calls Putin 'genius' and 'savvy' for Ukraine invasion - POLITICO
     
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    France and Germany are not, and then there is Britain, Poland, the Swiss, Austria ... . :)

    IF Russia continues, which they can't ... NATO is just getting warmed up.
     
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