Putin says Russians will 'go to Heaven as martyrs' in the event of a nuclear war as he would only us

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  1. vis

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    Sure he is, but the smart thing would be in this case to keep the mouth shut down.
     
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    I think your list misses General Vlasov. Russians fought Russians.
     
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    1. ENGLISH IS THE OFFICIAL LANGUAGE OF THIS WEBSITE

    We warmly welcome members from all over the world, and value their insights and perspectives. And, we understand that communicating in English can be difficult for people who did not grow up speaking the language. Nevertheless, we ask that people post their public messages in English so that everyone can understand them, and that material linked on Youtube or other websites also be in English.

    Sorry, but we don't support the language of alcoholic, vodka-swilling peasants here. Go English or go home...
     
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    I think Putin views this as a green light to produce any weapons he likes.
     
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    whatever you say man, I will follow you orders as long as you present a document that you are my manager or police officer on duty. It would also helps if you provide a proof of your IQ, just to make sure that your credentials fit your position.
     
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    Are not you Russian yourself?
    The nick name TheDimon has a special meaning.
     
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    Those ROFL smilies seem rather hysteric compared to your reality in Russia... So sad : (

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    My cradensials are private. Zorry.
    Spasiba...
     
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    Russians"will die as martyrs"??

    Well we know these Asian vatniks will die, in huge numbers, as they always do......but as "martyrs", is laughable.
    Russkis are like lemmings.....they'll follow their dear leader off the cliff, only putinka will be on the ledge under the cliff watching his moskalis fall off....:roflol:
     
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    I'm not surprised. Putin loves Muslims. He even speaks Turkish. It's okay for him to agree on the whole "martyrs in Heaven" thing.
     
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    Shut the hell up liar !
    Take a good look at them, RUSSIAN SOLDIERS right before raping a German girl, probably a 10 year old !

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    Soviet Army troops raped these women and children in a German village before killing them.

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    "Red Army soldiers don't believe in 'individual liaisons' with German women," wrote the playwright Zakhar Agranenko in his diary when serving as an officer of marine infantry in East Prussia. "Nine, ten, twelve men at a time - they rape them on a collective basis."

    The Soviet armies advancing into East Prussia in January 1945, in huge, long columns, were an extraordinary mixture of modern and medieval: tank troops in padded black helmets, Cossack cavalrymen on shaggy mounts with loot strapped to the saddle, lend-lease Studebakers and Dodges towing light field guns, and then a second echelon in horse-drawn carts. The variety of character among the soldiers was almost as great as that of their military equipment. There were freebooters who drank and raped quite shamelessly, and there were idealistic, austere communists and members of the intelligentsia appalled by such behaviour.

    Even many young women soldiers and medical staff in the Red Army did not appear to disapprove. "Our soldiers' behaviour towards Germans, particularly German women, is absolutely correct!" said a 21-year-old from Agranenko's reconnaissance detachment. A number seemed to find it amusing. Several German women recorded how Soviet servicewomen watched and laughed when they were raped. But some women were deeply shaken by what they witnessed in Germany. Natalya Gesse, a close friend of the scientist Andrei Sakharov, had observed the Red Army in action in 1945 as a Soviet war correspondent. "The Russian soldiers were raping every German female from eight to eighty," she recounted later. "It was an army of rapists."

    Drink of every variety, including dangerous chemicals seized from laboratories and workshops, was a major factor in the violence. It seems as if Soviet soldiers needed alcoholic courage to attack a woman. But then, all too often, they drank too much and, unable to complete the act, used the bottle instead with appalling effect. A number of victims were mutilated obscenely.

    The subject of the Red Army's mass rapes in Germany has been so repressed in Russia that even today veterans refuse to acknowledge what really happened. The handful prepared to speak openly, however, are totally unrepentant. "They all lifted their skirts for us and lay on the bed," said the leader of one tank company. He even went on to boast that "two million of our children were born" in Germany.

    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2002/may/01/news.features11

    Let's keep reading:

    "In March 1945 near Racibórz, 30 women captured at a linen factory were locked in a house in Makowo and raped over a period of time under the threat of death. The woman who gave her testimony to the police, was raped by four men. German and Polish women were apprehended on the streets of Katowice, Zabrze and Chorzów and gang raped by drunken soldiers, usually outdoors.[3] According to Naimark, the Red Army servicemen did not differentiate along the ethnic lines, or between victims and occupiers.[8]

    Polish and German women in Warmia and Masuria endured the same ordeal, wrote Ostrowska & Zaremba.[3] One letter from the Recovered Territories claimed that in the city of Olsztyn in March 1945, practically no woman survived without being violated by the Soviet rapists "irrespective of their age". Their ages were estimated to range from 9 to 80. Sometimes, a grandmother, a mother and a granddaughter were among the victims. Women were gang raped by as many as several dozen soldiers. In a letter from Gdańsk dated 17 April 1945, a Polish woman who acquired work around the Soviet garrison reported: "because we spoke Polish, we were in demand. However, most victims there were raped up to 15 times. I was raped seven times. It was horrible." A letter from Gdynia, written a week later, said that the only resort for the women was to hide in the basements all day.[9]"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_during_the_Soviet_occupation_of_Poland

    And then the Polish youth takes action in every encounter:

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    Infidel Russian troops even ganged raped CHRISTIAN NUNS in Poland:

    Raping nuns is no different then raping the mother of Jesus... Godless Russian army...

    Forgotten story of Polish nuns gang-raped and made pregnant by advancing Soviet troops and cared for by a French female doctor revealed for the first time in 70 years

    "As Hitler's troops withdrew from Poland in 1945, Stalin's Red Army advanced towards Berlin. Instead of liberation, the Soviet troops raped and pillaged as they followed the retreating Nazis.

    In January 1945, as the war continued, French authorities sent Dr Madeleine Pauliac to Moscow to assist with the efforts to repatriate any French prisoners of war discovered by the Soviets.

    By the time Dr Pauliac had traveled to Warsaw, the city was in ruins. An insurrection against the Nazis between August and October 1944 led to the deaths of more than 20,000 Polish fighters and 180,000 civilians.

    Stalin ordered his troops to halt their advance while the Nazis ruthlessly crushed the insurrection. As soon as his men continued their march, tales of widespread brutality and systematic rape began to emerge.

    As a French Red Cross doctor, her primary focus was supposed to be French nationals. But after arriving in Poland, she became immediately aware of the whole scale abuse of women by Soviet troops.

    In April 1945 she was named the chief doctor of the French Hospital in Warsaw.

    During her tour of duty, Dr Pauliac found Polish women in maternity units who had been raped by the Soviets while in labour or moments after giving birth.

    But, she also discovered pregnant nuns living in convents who had been gang-raped by scores of troops in quick succession.

    Some of the women were murdered while others were allowed to live.

    According to her nephew Philippe Maynial: 'She gave medical care to these women. She helped them to heal their conscience and save their convent.'

    Tragically, Dr Pauliac died while on a mission in February 1946.

    Her story has been made into a film, The Innocents, by director Anne Fontaine.

    Writing at the time, Dr Pauliac noted: 'There were 25 of them, 15 were raped and killed by the Russians, the ten survivors were raped, some 42 times, some 35 or 50 times each... None of this would be anything if five of them were not pregnant. They would come and ask my advice and to speak of abortion in veiled terms.' "


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...nch-female-doctor-revealed-time-70-years.html

     
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    What happened to the Israeli flag you were flying proudly as your profile pic?

    Here, you can use mine if you'd lost it:

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    Russians are dogs you understand....one small step above animal tendencies.

    Moskalis didn't know what toilet bowls were until they entered Konigsberg....first they tried to wash potatoes in them...then their feet, until someone mentioned that they were for plopping your arse down for a comfortable dump....and dump they did.....proceeded to plug the sewers for months after.....could you imagine the stench....all that Russian ****...LOL.
    Funny, how come Asiatic vatniks unscrewed light bulbs from Berlin apartments in April 45??? and sent them back to muscovia....to their villages ...with no power and coal oil lamps?? What did they do with the bulbs?? Screw them into their anal orifice?LOL....
     
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    It was a bad joke people didn't get it, forget about it!!! No Greek thanks
     
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    So where did soviets saved americans, at the battle of Bulk, in which acording to Your source Patton stopped German advance ar the end of december(Soviet Odera offensive started at january 12.) or near Strasbourg? Did you know, that Ardens and Strasbourg are different locations? Do you read Your own copy/pasts?
     
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    I agree that such statements are made only in exceptional cases. But Perhaps the situation in the world is so explosive that Putin was forced to warn the hotheads about the inevitable retaliation.
     
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    Yes. Of course there were traitors among the "Russians." These are now. Just like in any country in the world. But in this case we are talking about people of other nationalities. Traitors - this is a consequence of the war.
     
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    But for some reason you write in this language. That's why I asked you to write in literary English.
     
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    Putin speaks several languages. Perhaps even in Turkish. The Russians most often fought with the Turks. Therefore, knowing the language of enemy is good. By the way, it was the Russians who freed the Bulgarians from Turkish slavery. True, the Bulgarians fought against the Russians in two world wars. Who do you think is more worthy of contempt - an open enemy or a betrayer of his savior?
     
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    You will laugh after, after the "Satan" arrives to you.
     
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    This is because you have a lack of education. :roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    A handful of very interesting, cherry picked photos do not erase facts related by every reliable historian I've read and eyewitness account I've heard.


    "Red Army troops raped even Russian women as they freed them from camps"
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wo...sian-women-as-they-freed-them-from-camps.html
    EXCERPT "THE Red Army's orgy of rape in the dying days of Nazi Germany was conducted on a much greater scale than previously suspected, according to a new book by the military historian Anthony Beevor.

    Beevor, the author of the best-selling Stalingrad, says advancing Soviet troops raped large numbers of Russian and Polish women held in concentration camps, as well as millions of Germans.

    The extent of the Red Army's indiscipline and depravity emerged as the author studied Soviet archives for his forthcoming book Berlin, to be published in April by Viking."CONTINUED

     
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    I recognize at least 1 of the photos you displayed to be among the more infamous fake photos (the "execution" of the 2 women)(1).
    Several others have aberrant features of incongruous shadows characteristic of fakes.
    While I don't doubt that the Germans as well as every other army committed war crimes, there are perhaps more fake photos of German war crimes than any other military.
    Not only do the victors write the history, they also determine what photographic evidence to display, alter or destroy.



    (1) "What are some of the most popular faked images of World War II?"
    https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-of-the-most-popular-faked-images-of-World-War-II



    (2) "World War 2: Fake Pictures Of German Brutality"

    EXCERPT "Many lies have been told about World War II, always demonizing the German Army, the German people and its leaders. Here are just a few of the thousands of fake photographs, clearly manipulated for maximum effect."CONTINUED


    "Soviet’s Anti-Nazi Propaganda, Fake Pictures during World War"
    http://www.hoaxorfact.com/Crime/soviet-s-anti-nazi-propaganda-fake-pictures-during-world-war.html

    EXCERPT "The Soviets and the rest of the allies were in fact faking hundreds of pictures during and after the World war, as a part of psychological warfare against the German people and propagandize their own people."CONTINUED
     
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    I didnt know Israeli flag was a bad joke to you.
     

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