Rand Paul Lays Out Evidence For COVID-19 Coming From Wuhan Lab

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  1. FatBack

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    I have to wonder, why are the powers that be abandoning the "wet market" angle?
    It sure isn't from some newfound desire to be honest.
     
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    Biden wants to know the truth and is starting an investigation

    Trump should have done this a year ago if he believed it to be true, Biden is a real President

    "How Distrust of Donald Trump Muddled the COVID-19 'Lab Leak' Debate"

    https://time.com/6051414/donald-trump-wuhan-laboratory-leak/

    "Biden today released an unusual statement revealing he has ordered a review among intelligence agencies about the source of the pandemic."


    Trump's constant lying costs him the trust he needed in the time of a crisis, of course a week before he pushed this he was suggesting people drink disinfectant or some such nonsense
     
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    I don't know, it was Republican pushing the wet market angle so hard too, attacking china for having wet markets and endangering us all
     
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    BS. Total BS.
     
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    I always thought it came from the lab, but I was willing to put that debate aside for various reasons, including my willingness to entertain the possibility that it really was natural in origin. But now that the topic has been magically deemed "credible" by all the very "serious" people (who spent the past year claiming it was a "conspiracy theory" and that it was "debunked"), more evidence in favor of the lab leak theory.

    Here are the bullet points:
    • No known animal reservoir for COVID virus
    • COVID virus does not readily infect bats, only humans
    • Three people from Wuhan lab went to hospital for "COVID-like symptoms" in Nov. 2019
    Obviously, none of those facts, viewed in isolation, prove that it came from the lab. But viewed in their totality, the circumstantial evidence in favor of the lab leak hypothesis seems significantly stronger than the natural origin hypothesis. As always, I am still willing to entertain the possibility that it's natural in origin, unlike the other side who just declared the lab leak hypothesis a "conspiracy theory" or "debunked", but my confidence in the lab leak hypothesis has grown significantly in the past few weeks.

    Despite's Trump efforts to derail the pandemic mitigation, Biden seems to be working as fast as possible to put us upright. It's a shame some people are doing everything they can to undermine him.[/QUOTE]
     
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    Republicans and Vegans were united on that one
     
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    Because of China's one child policy, they are just entering a serious crisis. Basically they have too many old people. There isn't enough young people to support the retirement of the old. Google some demographics and check out how China's upside down bell (formed by the old at the top), and one will easily conclude that China benefits from a virus that kills the old, more than any other country.
     
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    I hate to tell you, but that is a fallacy. The NIS sent money to pay for proper training of the WIV technicians and supervisors in handling infectious material and for new equipment. It is clear that the money was not used for that purpose. The US has no control over how China spent the Money.

    Any culpability on the part of the US is second hand at best. First, the money was sent to the lab in spite of the fact that the lab used a technique called gain-to-function. The US put a moratorium on funding labs that use that technique. Gain-to-function is procedure where the lab increases the strength of viruses. Second, the US should have required China to submit to US oversite of how the money was spent. Third, as Rand Paul pointed out, we should not be sending grants to China. The WIV is owned by China. It is their responsibility to properly train the lab personnel, and to fund new equipment.

    It is a stretch to claim US funded the research, or was responsible for the Pandemic. Before I retired, I was a Terminal Manager for a trucking company. Part of my duties was conducting accident investigations. In determining the primary causes, secondary causes and contributing factors, I would ask one simple question. If the cause was removed from the equation. would the accident have still occurred. Applying that question to the China Pandemic situation, If the US had not sent the money to the WIV, it would not have stopped the Lab leak.. .
     
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    The Powers That Be are in some degree of narrative control, they are on the defense.

    The Official Narrative has imploded a long time ago, but lucky for TPTB the frightened masses are still in stampede.

    So they must bob and weave, and try to discover a narrative that conforms to facts and evidence.

    The only narrative that conforms to facts and evidence is the Plandemic narrative.
     
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    So now you are trying to absolve the corrupt US officials who may have financed this disaster - and then covered it up - with our tax money.

    Excuse me while I puke.
     
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    The US did not fund the Chinese research. The US sent WIV money to pay for training of personnel in safety protocols, and new equipment. That is a fact that has not been disputed. Nor, has the US tried to cover up the fact. What has happened is the liberal media has not covered the fact, because it would have distracted from the false narrative that the WIV lab was not involved.

    If you reread the post that you answered, you will see that I pointed out several problems with the US having sent any money to the Lab. But even if the US had not sent them the money, it would not have stopped the lab from allowing the virus to get out of the lab.

    Just because you hate the USA, does not make you right. It makes you unamerican. Provide me a credible source that states beyond a shadow of a doubt that the US sent money to the WIV earmarked for Virology research, and I will give your narrative some careful consideration. But that source has to state that the US sent the money specifically to fund research, and not training or new equipment.
     
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    "Those who are capable of tyranny are capable of perjury to sustain it."

    -Lysander Spooner

    All of you politicians lie.
     
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    Facebook and YouTube, etc., did more than anyone in covering up any investigation. They silenced any talk about it for a year and a half. I bet they are still censoring the topic in China at the behest of the CCP. Absolutely shameful.
     
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    I knew that they were in demographic suicide, but, I hadn't thought of that. Appreciate you sharing it.
     
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    Rand Paul has a decent sense of humor:

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    In my opinion your post was brilliant and I loved the video by Rand Paul...... he showed great courage to make those statements.
     
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    This is logical.....
    and fits with the total lack of compassion that has been shown by China to members of the Falun Gong, Christians and the Uighur Muslims.
     
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    Rand Paul has been without peer in dragging the truth out of the evil lying clown, Fauci.
     
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    The media, mainstream and social (aka lamestream and socialist) alike, have been censoring news for decades. They limit what the public sees based on their political agenda. They keep claiming that the cornerstone of the US society is a free press. That is true. But where does it say that a free press gives them the right to do their own censorship? The media is supposed to provide an objective view of what is happening. They are supposed to offer all sides to every issue. Instead the readers/viewers are subjected to biased and politically partisan angles to every story. To make things worse, they have resorted to making false claims based on non-existent "unnamed sources". And now the Social Media has joined the act by limiting what the members are allowed to post or read.
     
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    You are partly correct, but the claim that we have "a free press" is not really accurate.

    If you've studied Operation Mockingbird decades ago, you would know that.
     
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    Yup. And our Fake News Media is owned by Big Corporations that suck up to the Lying Thieves in Beijing so they can access those big controlled markets.

    Beijing a Government of Global Theft

    Chinese Fishing Fleets Invading Argentina's Waters:
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    Stealing Squid Right Out Of Argentina's National Waters.

    "6,000 foreign fishing vessels that disabled their public tracking devices for more than 24 hours along the border of Argentina’s national waters"
     
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    You need to reread my post. I never said we have a free press. I said that the media keeps insisting that we do. My point was that a free press is not one that censors the news based on a political agenda. I would put the death of the US free press, if there ever was such a thing, back in the 1800's. When William Randolph Hearst proved that he could get the US to go to war with Spain. That was when the phrase "Yellow Journalism" was coined. It has been the cornerstone of the US media ever since.
     
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    It is clear there is no free press. This man made virus is the biggest story in centuries, yet barely a peep for going on 2 years. Something nefarious is definitely afoot here.
     
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