Rand Paul tweets NY DA ‘should be put in jail’

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  1. Steve N

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    They wrote it off as camping expenses. Let me guess, but that’s different.
     
  2. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Now you’re just making up nonsense. Is there any law Trump could break that you’d say it’s ok to hold him accountable?
     
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    Okay quick question. What if during the Trump era we discovered that Obama had personally embezzled millions in taxpayer dollars. Perhaps by using millions white house discretionary funds to purchase a million copies of one of his book? Would you say that Trump prosecuting him in that instance would set a dangerous precedent? I suspect not.

    If a former president has committed a crime, he or she shouldn’t get off scot-free just because the other side is in the White House.

    the better question is whether this is a crime worth prosecuting. I’m not 100% sure it is in the is instance.
     
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    From the first time I heard Rand Paul speak, I knew he was a dimwit.

    His partisanship has either grown, or at least become more manifest, over time.

     
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    And there's the sharp turn, on your conspiracy tour bus, which is my sign to get off.
     
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    And more than few Republicans, seem
    to feel the need to hurl inflammatory
    charges at "Democrats," writ large,
    sans any sense of obligation
    to back up their libelous allegations.
    (Yup).
     
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  7. Steve N

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    What Obama did was give a publishing company a huge contract and in turn they gave Obama a $28 million dollar book deal.
     
  8. Steve N

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    Yes, if he deleted 33,000 subpoenaed emails on a server he should not have had…just like you did. Wait, you didn’t.
     
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    How could the district attorney's actions, even possibly, be "criminal?"

    As this seems a far less provable stretch, than Trump's intent, in silencing Daniels, and so depriving voters of knowledge of this story-- which, according to multiple Republicans, here, invalidates an election result, when they allege that it is some story about Biden (or, usually, his son Hunter) which has been squashed-- it is hard not to laugh at your presumption, that anyone might believe that DA Bragg, is "above the law."

    Good irony there, though.
     
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    Sad you choose to ignore the findings of that investigation. But what else to expect from a group that thinks the clintons are serial killers?
     
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    Sad that you choose tales from the same people who told you about the Steele dossier, German banks, Russian mafia, and everything else that was in plain sight. It doesn’t matter to me if you think the Clintons are serial killers, what matters to me is how one is a rapist and the other destroyed the lives of the women who spoke about it. Except Paula Jones, Clinton paid her off. Sound familiar or am I going to get a dose of what difference does that make?
     
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    That was like a mad lib of RW gibberish. If you’re trying to make an actual point, you failed badly.
     
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    What part is gibberish? I have links, maybe from CNN.

    the best part is you always respond without a point but a deflection.
     
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    Rand Paul is right. Jail this Soros Bastard Prosecutor, Bragg: 'Major dissension' within Bragg's office as grand jury is told to stay home for the day

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    This prosecutors office, both houses of congress, the media organizations, have all entered into multiple nondisclosure agreements over sexual matters, but, suddenly when it involves Trump its now only termed 'hush money' not a nondisclosure agreement.

    'The Manhattan ‘hush-money’ grand jury has been told not to come in on Wednesday, a cancellation that comes on the brink of a possible historic indictment vote of former President Donald Trump, according to two law enforcement officers.'

    These blind sources and leakers.

    'And while nothing beyond Wednesday is set in stone, it is unlikely that the grand jury will meet at all this week, said one of the law enforcement sources.'

    This is after 'Robert Costello demonstrated to the Grand Jury that Bragg’s star witness, Michael Cohen, is a liar.'

    '“I’ve listened to Michael Cohen stand in front of the courthouse and say things that are directly contrary to what he said to us,” Costello said.

    '“Let them see exactly who Michael Cohen is and was at that moment,” Costello added, referring to the grand jury. “Now he’s on the revenge tour. I understand it but I don’t condone it. And that’s why I went in there today to tell these people who the real Michael Cohen is and what he was actually saying at that moment in time.”'

    In addition to Costello destroying the star witness, 'even the NY Times has repeatedly suggested is based on a relatively untested legal theory. The NY Times published a lengthy story about that today. Here’s' a sample:

    'A New York Times review and interviews with election law experts strongly suggest that New York state prosecutors have never before filed an election law case involving a federal campaign. Bringing an untested case against anyone, let alone a former president of the United States, carries the risk that a court could throw out or narrow the case…'

    The underlying charge is a mere misdemeanor with an expired statute of limitations. To turn it into a felony, this Soros Bragg puke 'must show that Mr. Trump’s “intent to defraud” included an intent to commit or conceal a second crime.' They're trying to claim that a violation of campaign finance law meets that bill, but, the FEC never charged it.
     
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    :roflol:
    Unfounded Conspiratorial BS...Lmao!
     
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    Sounds Good...
    Trump can afford lawyers (paid for out of his Slush Fund)...
    Let him fight it...
     
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    What law has Bragg broken that you think deserves putting him in jail?
    Be specific.
     
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    The pattern with George Soros is very clear. He has put up a million dollars or so in each race to get radical DAs, who refuse to prosecute violent felons, elected around the country. They are in New York City (Bragg), New York State, Philadelphia, St. Louis, Missouri, Los Angeles and formerly in San Francisco. It’s a bargain for him because for short dollars, for him, he gets to disrupt the lives in many communities.

    Why does he do it? Perhaps he is using the anarchists strategy of making thing bad so that an authoritarian, law and order government, will become popular. Perhaps he thinks that prosecuting violent criminals is racist because a disproportionate number of them are Black and in prison. Perhaps he just wants to play god and hurt people.

    The man is very twisted, but since he’s “a progressive thinker,” he’s one of the left’s heroes. If the left really cared about people, they would have an intellectual curiosity about what Soros’ goals are, but they don’t. Like the “MAGA Republicans,”they only support him like a cult leader.

    If you have any curiosity, you should read “The Man Behind the Curtain” by Matt Palumbo.
     
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    Yes, I agree. You don't understand the issues.
     
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    Inflammatory you say.... Have you seen the language of your own team? LOL.. I suppose the real difference is we don't see conservative folks out there burning cities down.. Just y'all... You might want to brush up on the term defamation...
     
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    Evidently, Cohen's attorney admitted that Cohen made the payment to Stormy, and Trump never reimbursed him. Cohen's lawyer put this in the public record. Your marketing seems chock full of holes. I suspect that you're not being able to follow the argument about active collusion between the FBI and social media and conventional media could lead you to this misanalysis and comparison. I don't suppose that the assertion that public foreknowledge would have changed the votes of 18-20% of voters who voted for Biden

    I suppose you can't see the difference here. I'm not surprised. So laugh away. I hate to point out that you're likely laughing at yourself, but who are we to stop you from having such a good time at your own expense?
     
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    You didn't answer the questions, which were based on "if". The criminality question can turn on the abuse of power. Did Bragg use government funds to advance a political hit job against Trump?
     
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    I've lost count how many years MAGAs have brought up Hillary, even when she is no longer in politics.
     
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    George Soros......shhhhhhhh! I think you like him.
     
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    But that is not laundering money, is it? That is what every publisher does. They give huge advances in the beginning and in return recuperate those advances bit by bit in those book sales. That is the risk the publisher takes. Trump has made published books and has received advances too. No one is saying that is illegal. What is illegal on Trump's side is falsified business records and to the extent, if it meets the felony criteria for that charge. If yes, then is it worth pursuing? That answer can only come from the DA after looking at all the evidence and the possibility that the jury would be swayed to provide a guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

    What 3Link is suggesting is hypothetical but not going into much detail while pointing out would the same facts and circumstances that trump is accused of doing is hypothetically what Obama would be accused of doing. I think what 3link was pointing out is the hypocrisy on both sides, more so now on the conservatives and their arguments that a former president should be above the law no matter what if he violated the law prior, during, or after he was POTUS.
     

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