Rebel offensive in Syria gains ground as Russian military presence fades.

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  1. Jakob

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    Get informed about this time, then we shall have a constructive conversation.
     
  2. Space_Time

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    Some are describing this as 'karma':
     
  3. Giftedone

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    Snowden did no such thing .. and the sexual activities of Assange are not relevant to helping terrorists. You are confusing the traitorous activities of Biden "Helping terrorists" -- and acts of terrorism .. with Snowden outing massive gov't crimes harming the security and liberty of all US citizens..

    Let us not confuse your hatred of the founding principle and love of Islamist Jihadist ideology with US - Patriotism TA
     
  4. Toggle Almendro

    Toggle Almendro Well-Known Member

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    Wrong again. Snowden exposed the methods that intelligence agents were using to track terrorists, which allowed terrorists to change their routines to avoid being tracked, which resulted in the following attacks not being stopped:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_2015_Île-de-France_attacks
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_2015_Paris_attacks
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Brussels_bombings
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Nice_truck_attack
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Berlin_truck_attack
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_Arena_bombing
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Barcelona_attacks


    They are relevant to the women he raped though.


    Oh nonsense. I'm far from being a fan of Joe Biden, but he never did anything to help terrorists.


    Snowden never exposed any crimes. All he did was tell terrorists how to avoid being tracked by intelligence agencies.


    Falsely accusing me of having strange views will not change the fact that I am correct.
     
  5. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Posting a bunch of Terrorist attacks .. and claiming these were the fault of Snowden for exposing illegal and unconstitutional spying on US citizens .. is anti American -- authoritarian rubbish on steroids. What a fallacious joke .. and falsehood to claim the Illegal spying on US citizens was not criminal;

    Your being radicalized to support Al Qaeda terrorists and Nazi Holocaust is not what patriotism is about. Your claiming that the Islamic State that Biden was helping.. arming, supplying and supporting were not "Terrorists" is preposterous falsehood on steroid.

    That you supported Biden's support for the rebels in Syria ... throughout the war in Syria is not a false accusation.. you just had no idea who it was that Biden was supporting .. but this does not change the fact that you were supporting Biden's support of Terrorism .. and your holocaust denial does not change the fact that a Holocaust occurred.
     
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    My view is that Biden/NATO sided with AQ
    Oh, just believe in fairy tales?

    He rose to leader of Syria from a lowly AQ foot soldier during the height of the fighting between the US and AQ?

    Then, not only did he renounce AQ's radical view of Islam, he commanded the respect of an army of radical Islamists enough to convince them to also abandon their ways, and side with the US?

    And, although we are in the midst of the biggest conflict between NATO and Russia in history, and the army was organized in our NATO ally Turkey, and Syria is Russia's 2nd best friend, we should believe that the organization and actions of the above army were completely independent of the Biden administration, and were not a US sponsored regime change?

    Is this why I shouldn't believe Biden sided with AQ to spite Russia? Because I'm not buying it.
     
  7. Giftedone

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    There is no debate in serious circles that Biden - and Obama's coalition of 30 willing nations - sided with the Islamic State in Syria during the war in Syria 2011 to 2017 and as of late 2013 .. the Islamic State was the only force fighting Assad .. Obama's "Moderate Rebel Lie" .. propaganda nonsense on super-charged steroids.

    The claims that these IS Rebels who recently took Damascus are "Moderates" just as absurd nonsense .. akin to the White Helmets false flag doublespeak.
    Syria is being turned in to a Strict Sharia theocracy .. along the lines of El Saud ideology .. loud speakers telling people about the new policies .. just like the Brown Shirts did.

    Who was funding this latest Al Qaeda spawn uprising .. same as was funding the Old with Turkey - El Saud .. and the Gulf States in the loop .. They came out of Idlib .. the Turkish protected Zone in Syria .. but also these terrorists were thriving in the US protected Zone .. although this is far more grey .. the US divided between protecting the Kurds who were enemies of the Islamic State in Syria .. and protecting their IS proxy fighters from Assad ..

    It is clear that the US knew of what was brewing ..and that support from members of the Obama coalition of the willing was flowing .. but, also that Israel was in the loop .. ISIS also being allied with Israel throughout the war in Syria and beyond.

    It is a mess of strange bed-fellows this one..
     
  8. Toggle Almendro

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    Wrong again. Blocking the ability of intelligence agencies to track terrorists, led directly to those terrorists not being stopped before they carried out their massacres.


    There was no spying on US citizens. At least, not without a warrant.


    I support neither. You are lying about me to distract from the truths that I tell.


    I never said that Islamic State were not terrorists.

    And wrong again. Joe Biden never supported Islamic State.

    Bashar al-Assad was the one who backed Islamic State.


    Sure it is. Joe Biden was not even president when the war was being fought.

    And I never expressed support for the imaginary support of someone who wasn't even president at the time.


    I had a pretty good idea that, since he wasn't even president when the fighting was going on, he wasn't giving support to anyone at all.


    This imaginary nonexistent support is anything but a fact.


    I have never denied the Holocaust. You are just lying about me in order to distract from the truths that I tell.
     
  9. Toggle Almendro

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    Even if Joe Biden was directly behind this guy in Syria renouncing al-Qa'ida and becoming a moderate, it remains a fact that he has renounced al-Qa'ida and become a moderate.

    That's not a bad thing. If Joe Biden actually is responsible for it, good for him.
     
  10. Toggle Almendro

    Toggle Almendro Well-Known Member

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    Wrong again. Obama and his coalition were the ones who attacked and destroyed Islamic State.


    Wrong again. Islamic State did nothing to try to remove Bashar al-Assad from power.

    Bashar al-Assad created Islamic State and was their primary backer.


    Wrong again. They are not Islamic State. And they certainly are acting like the moderates that they claim to be.


    The white helmets are a real organization that tried to protect the Syrian people from Bashar al-Assad's genocide.


    I doubt it.
     
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    Holy false made up backwards History TG ?? Obama and his 30 Nation Coalition were arming .. supporting .. and supplying the Islamic State in the war against Assad and what was left of Syria in late 2013 when a new Islamic State in Syria was created .. The Islamic State was Obama's proxy Army .. who was intent on removing Assad from Power.

    Everything you have said is false History .. you have it backwards .. to the point of made up nonsense propaganda that even the mainstream media did not parrot .. even while peddling the now famous "Moderate Rebel Lie"

    Happy New Year TG .. in 2025 let us make it our new years resolution to be taken seriously ... and learn about what it is you speak before opening mouth as opposed to after.
     
  12. Toggle Almendro

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    Wrong again. Islamic State was created and backed by Bashar al-Assad, who believed (apparently correctly) that gullible people would react by ignoring the genocide that he was perpetrating against the Syrian people.

    Barack Obama was the person who attacked and destroyed Islamic State.

    I personally believe that this was an error, and that Islamic State should not have been attacked so long as Bashar al-Assad remained in power.

    But the fact remains, Barack Obama was the person who attacked and destroyed Islamic State.


    Wrong again. Everything I say is true. That is why no one can point out anything untrue in my posts.


    I always know what I am talking about. That is why no one can point out anything untrue in my posts.
     
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    Sorry Toggle .. According to the Pentagon, Obama .. and your beloved Biden .. The Islamic State was our Ally in the fight against Assad. Please provide support for your claim that it was Assad who was backing and arming the Islamic State that .. Syria - Russia and Iran were fighting against in the war in Syria.

    One thing you are correct about is that only the most gullible and completely out of the loop individual would ignore the genocide being perpetuated by the Islamic State.. against the people of Syria .. You just have it completely wrong and backwards as to who was backing the anti Assad forces .. know as the Islamic State in Syria. a new state that came into existence in 2013 .. until its defeat at the hands of Russia in 2017.

    Support this ridiculous nonsense claim of yours that goes against recorded History.
     
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    ...military over stretch is a bitch....hubris clashing with ability

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    ...so after a decade of continuous conventional submarine ops the Med is now untenable for Russia following them being kicked out of Tartus. All Putin's feudal court can do now is smooze up to Erdogan and hope he'll have some influence in Syria to aid it's return ....Erdogan will no doubt be rubbing his hands at his new found little position of influence. In fact, Erdogan's star is rising in the court of Putin at the moment! After the somewhat luke warm apology for shooting down the Azerbaijani airliner (for Putin any sort of apology is amazing but in this case not surprising), Putin needs Erdogan's offices to smooth the relations between Ibrahim Aliyev and Russia. Azerbaijan being crucial for laundering Russia's oil and gas to Europe....so at the moment Erdogan is enjoying a sort of "Putinoid" moment whereby he can bask in the limelight at Putin's drain circling feudal court......
     
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    https://tass.ru/ekonomika/22938225
     
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    ....I'm betting there's no mention anymore of the USD500M they were supposed to invest....:D
     

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