Red states/areas getting more Covid-19 deaths than blue states/areas

TX is trying to force rape victims to have their rapists babies, the court is blocking it for now

 

Oh, OK. So you agree with the rest of Texas's laws. You just want an exception for rape.

 

I am pro-choice... my body, my choice

 

This is really where both sides disagree. You frame it in the context of a woman's right to choose what to do with her own body. The right actually don't want to deny women rights but see it as an issue of purposely taking the life of a living human, even if that human hasn't been born yet. The right don't believe women have the right to purposely take the life of a living human. Now you guys try to justify this in many ways like claiming it's not really a human until it is born but life is life and the nuts and bolts show that even a fetus is a human because a woman's fetus does not grow up into being a dog or cat or a dinosaur. It is human life and they sometimes want to purposely take a human life just because they personally screwed up their lives.

 

if life starts at conceptions, then American citizenship should start at conception... right

we can all have our own opinions when life starts and that is fine, but the life of the mother always takes precedence and it's her choice to risk her life for another

http://www.slate.com/id/2120872/
"a member of President Bush's Council on Bioethics, describes in his book The Ethical Brain, current neurology suggests that a fetus doesn't possess enough neural structure to harbor consciousness until about 26 weeks, when it first seems to react to pain. Before that, the fetal neural structure is about as sophisticated as that of a sea slug and its EEG as flat and unorganized as that of someone brain-dead."

 

I have no blue tinted glasses. I asked you for real proof and you gave me three links, none of which prove anything at all.

As for the rest of the malarkey you wrote.... pffft..... that's not debate. I see you have a lot to learn.

 

Interesting thought on citizenship. I've never heard that before. But, I don't believe the left would like to go with that definition because then all of the illegals who came to the US to birth and American citizen would no longer have their wish. This subject may be worth talking about except for the fact that there would probably be many cases where the place of conception would not be easy to determine.

 

it would mean someone could come here, and get pregnant and the child would be an instant citizen

 

As I said, I cannot prove that you did not commit murder. I can't prove that I never murdered anyone. There are things which just make sense but you can't prove. My links are common sense but they don't prove that anyone murdered anyone. The fact is, YOU can't prove I'm wrong.

 

The directly posted deaths by the vaccine per the numbers they asked for. But as @CenterField has noted, the way they get the number it's over stated.
If you have other issues with the CDC, ask them.
They give the # of vaccines and the number of people who've had a reaction. To calculate the percent is really really easy.
# of issues/total vaccines * 100% gives you the percent.

 

Yet
In areas such as Israel who bathe in
the glory of most perfect vaccination
in some months become "hot spots"

Tell @Moi621,MD, ret. it ain't so!



Moi, MD, ret.

vaccination was the wrong approach
for a variant of the "common cold" virus ​

psst, they mutate too quickly. Faster than an influenza germ

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You claim that you don't watch right wing media, and yet, you posted a link from American Greatness, which is just as about ravenous hard-core chomping on the grenade-bit rw as it gets.

So.... LOL

 

Only, what you insinuated about Israel is absolutely untrue and not based in fact. Here are the actual numbers for the last 30+ days in Eretz Yisrael:



Currently, Israel, the UAE and Tunisia have some of the very best C-19 numbers in the world. The 7-day rolling average for yesterday was THREE TIMES less in both +cases and +deaths over exactly one month before.

People here should long know that if they state blatant untruths about Covid-19 stats, I will correct them and call them out.

You statement about Israel is wholly incorrect.

Do better next time.

 

This is not the thread for that discussion.

 

I'm saying that they deliberately hide the numbers in formulas because they don't want people to know. That's my beef. Deliberate manipulation so they can push their pro vaccine agenda. If they reported the actual numbers it would hurt their vaccine drive.

 

If you look at all of the links I post you will see that 99% of the time I go out of my way to actually post links from left wing media.

 

There's a huge difference between you and me. I generally do not think left-wing or right-wing media, but rather, reliable media and radical media. American Greatness is as radical as it gets.

 

Biden is shipping a lot of illegals into Red states, Covid or no Covid.

 

So that's what you think is causing this gap? Because, you know, community transmission south of the border is smaller than here, so there is a mathematical impossibility for this being the factor that is driving the pandemic. This is also easy to see when you look at what variants took hold of America: Alpha and Delta, respectively coming from the United Kingdom and India. The ones south of our border, Gamma and Lambda, did not get a foothold here. Care to explain that?

 

What numbers do you have to show that it would hurt their vaccine drive?
The entire world has a vaccine drive.
Publish some data instead of your opinion.

 

And that just shows how biased you are. You listen to the lefty media and refer to it as reliable when they do nothing but fill you with left wing propaganda all the time. If you took off your blue tinted glasses you would see that there was right wing media and left wing media and very few media that are unbiased and fair in their reporting. This is why public's trust in the media has been bad for decades. All most do is report the news with their agenda in mind.

 

LOL. The fact that they are covering up the numbers just goes to show you how afraid they are of the truth. Let me ask you this, if the CDC, the Biden administration, and the MSM media all came out with a media campaign telling people that almost 10,000 people have died from the vaccines, and 100,000 have had serious adverse reactions to the vaccines, what do you think that would do for their drive to get everyone vaccinated? What if the MSM media put on a story every single night about yet another person who died from the vaccine or suffered a severe side effect from it? What would that do for their vaccination drive? You're right. That's why they cover it up and don't tell Americans the truth. For the most part, they don't even mention it or talk about it in any way, other than, "Oh, the vaccines are very safe and reactions to it are very rare". But they won't tell us the numbers and they do that on purpose because for the greater public good, the public doesn't need to know this information.

They did the very same thing while approving vaccines for younger children recently. Two countries in Europe looked at the evidence and decided the risk of the Moderna vaccine in younger children was too much compared to the benefit and won't approve Moderna for young children. In the US, it's "Oh, the vaccines are very safe and reactions to it are very rare". Americans are being conned by the left wing propaganda campaign who think the greater public good is justification for purposely not informing the public of the truth. Then they turn around a fire people for not getting vaccines that could kill them or give them serious adverse reactions. Again, the greater public good outweighs the government telling us the truth. This after Biden looked Americans in the eye during the campaign and promised that he would always tell Americans the truth.

 

na, it's much more on Fox News, for making boomers (and some others) the tinfoil hat generation. Like many of America's special problems, Fox has screwed things up in the name of giving republicans a competitive advantage - immunity to truth is a powerful thing.

 

I didn't insinuate nothin' !
I declared something.
Israel had one resurgence already if not more
AND more are going to happen while those
bad (less vaccinated) nations experience a pause of new infections.
Ask @Sallyally of the Victoria - Australia experience.

Read Moi Now And
Believe Moi Later.
No insinuation, rather a declaration
Sadly Vaccine have short memories
And value "numbers", like currency.
Regardless of their true value.



Moi

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Insinuation is like farting
The First Smeller Is The feller

 

So you have no numbers. CDC has published deaths by vaccine. And its no where near 10,000. But if it were, 10,000/434M * 100% = 0.002%

If you have no numbers, you just make claims without any basis for them.