Rem 870 w/ box mag

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  1. TOG 6

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    Perfect close quarters defensive tool.....

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    Not seeing the need really. I have a mossberg 590 between the mattress and box springs. 00 buck 8+1. I keep it 8+0 dryfired.

    Definitely wouldn’t want a box mag for hunting.
     
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    Speed in reload. I imagine magazines larger that 6 rounds will follow.
     
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    I imagine in 3 gun it might be useful.
     
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    Won't the shells get squished "out of round" while resting under spring pressure? Feed problems?
     
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    Pump guns aren't ideal for 3 gun, especially with only 6 round capacity.
     
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    just get a saiga 12
     
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    With shotgun shell caddies a practiced shooter can reload 8 rounds in 5 seconds anyway.
     
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    I’m just trying to find a purpose for this. I’m not against its design but I’m a bird hunter and would never buy a box fed shotgun. In the duck blind or chasing upland game, after a shot, I don’t want to have to drop a mag to top off my 2+1. I am the gun control crowds worst nightmare but I struggle to find the usefulness of this gun. It is cool and needs tone available but not something I would buy.
     
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    It's not meant as a hunting gun. For field use I think you're absolutely right; but for a tactical house gun these have a lot to offer.
     
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    I grew up shooting shotguns. no way would I use something like that. the recoil is brutal, you cannot track a target with one of those. If you want compact either get a SBS or cut the stock down. even with a 10" LOP you can swing the gun and track a moving target

    btw I have a SAIGA red jacket custom that takes 20 round drum magazines. loaded with #4 tactical buck the number of projectiles you can put in the air in say 3-4 seconds is astounding
     
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    me neither though for OPEN three gun a mag fed shotgun is faster to reload than using a tube-feeder
     
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    Don't see the point really, it's more of a gimmick.

    One advantage with pump action shotguns, is the ability to top off the tube magazine. By adding attachable magazines, you're just removing that ability, and making it more cumbersome, while not adding a whole lot of practical value.
     
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    Well, there was a very long time when I would have agreed with you unabashedly, but the appearance of these new non-NFA firearms has led to the development of new handling techniques that counter a lot of the weaknesses some might find with the system.



    The tuned Saiga shotguns do make for a devastatingly effective close quarters tool...
     
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    Different strokes for different folks
     
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    New handling techniques that require about 100 hours in the gym, apparently ;)
     
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    Box magazines for shotguns are not new -- I have not heard of any issues in this regard.
     
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    LOL! Well, it is true that such a weapon is more a battle-axe than a rapier and requires a little more upper body strength than some other systems....
     
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    I love a shortened SxS shotgun,
    An exposed hammer Mule eared Coach gun, Norinco's type 99, Is my favorite,
    Why ?
    It is one fast shotgun to reload, and no cumbersome saddles or cartridge holder on mine, I simply stuffed B.D.U. or cargo pockets with loose cartridges and I am good to go !
     
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    I had box magazines on my 12 guage Marlin Goose guns, they were 3 round capacity, however, they worked well.
     
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    I have to laugh, because with the circles I move in everybody has the systems they prefer and all the rationalizations at the ready as to why some other system sucks.

    A lot of the tacticool operator guys sneer at a side-by-side, favoring semi-autos, and will tell you that only having two shots before a reload will get you killed.

    A lot of the law enforcement guys dismiss the semi-auto shotgun, favoring the pump gun, pointing out that the autos are limited in what cartridges they'll feed reliably and that many will malfunction if you don't fire them with a firm shoulder weld. The pumps, they say, will feed anything so long as you don't short-stroke the action under stress. They also sneer at a side-by-side, generally.

    Then you watch someone who knows what they're doing with a side-by-side. No shotgun can put out two shots as fast as a double, and in most urban defensive situations it's rare to need more than one or two shots; if you watch the cowboy action shooting videos there's plenty of footage of people reloading two shells in the blink of an eye as well; just as fast if not faster than someone with a pump topping off their guns one round at a time. The psychological deterrent of two huge muzzles is not to be underestimated as a deescalation tool as well! There's a reason my grandfather kept a Stevens 3-trigger near the door of the house at all times.

    I myself favor the pump, just because I was trained with it so heavily when I was in LE and it's familiar and I know how to run it in my sleep; but I'm not above keeping a SxS near my own backdoor!
     
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    I believe NYC used to issue side by sides to detectives because they couldn't afford training
     
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    I love pumps too, give me a 20 year old or older beat up patrol shotgun, a Remington 870, I have bought them, various Police surplus, and was never disappointed.

    I hunted with a no name no serial number very old single shot 16 gauge shotgun, and it seemed I could never miss a bird, it was so accurate, Fiocci ammo was all I could get then, and it really thumped me good !

    I never thought about it, it ejected very nicely,
    THUNK !!!

    I could load it very quickly.

    I have had many types of shotguns, yet the memories of those older break open shotguns, singles, doubles will always be fond ones.
     

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