Republicans introduce a term limits bill

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Shutcie, Jan 8, 2025.

  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    162,845
    Likes Received:
    42,340
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Let's do it!
     
  2. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    162,845
    Likes Received:
    42,340
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Yes, requires an Amendment which I am sure the Red states would pass, it's the Blue I would worry about.
     
  3. 19Crib

    19Crib Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2021
    Messages:
    7,385
    Likes Received:
    7,388
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Nice try, but it will go no where in the political time horizon we are used to.
     
  4. Shutcie

    Shutcie Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2021
    Messages:
    5,142
    Likes Received:
    4,347
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Well, based on the 2024 election we could reasonably expect 31 states to approve it.
     
  5. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2016
    Messages:
    18,552
    Likes Received:
    14,530
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    There are just as many “way too long,” serving members of Congress that are red as there are blue. This isn’t a partisan issue, I think.
     
  6. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    162,845
    Likes Received:
    42,340
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    It could be done in less that 12 months.

    Approval by Congress
    [change | change source]
    On March 10, 1971, the United States Senate voted 94–0 in support of proposing an amendment that would lower the minimum voting age to 18 everywhere in the country.[24] On March 23, the United States House of Representatives voted 401–19 for the amendment.[24] Congress sent the amendment to the states.

    Ratification
    [change | change source]
    For the Twenty-sixth Amendment to be added to the Constitution, three-fourths of the state legislatures (38 out of the 50) would have to ratify the Amendment.[19] It took just three months for 38 states to ratify the Amendment. After the Amendment was added to the Constitution, another five states ratified it. Seven states never did.
    https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-sixth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
     
  7. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    162,845
    Likes Received:
    42,340
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I certainly don't mean to insinuate there is some big partisan divide, I think it would pass with a big bi-partisan majority.
     
  8. Andrew Jackson

    Andrew Jackson Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2016
    Messages:
    52,339
    Likes Received:
    35,297
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I seriously doubt the "Red states would pass" it...
     
  9. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2015
    Messages:
    20,090
    Likes Received:
    11,466
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I think you missed my point. I wasn't referring to the Executive Branch, I was referring to the legislative.....BUT, It is the very people that the law would limit that have to approve it.
     
  10. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2015
    Messages:
    20,090
    Likes Received:
    11,466
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What amendment would be required ?
     
  11. Noone

    Noone Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2021
    Messages:
    17,836
    Likes Received:
    10,108
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I think the goal of minimizing the U.S. being in a nonstop election cycle and eliminating our geriatrified government should be factored into the Amendment.

    The President should be limited to one (1) eight year term

    Senators should be limited two 6 year terms.

    House Representatives should be limited to three 3 year terms.

    President, Senate and House Representatives cannot run for office after their 60th birthday.

    ALL appointed officials, including the Supreme Court must retire on the first day of the month following their 64 th birthday; the same as military officers.
     
    Last edited: Jan 11, 2025
  12. DentalFloss

    DentalFloss Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2013
    Messages:
    12,361
    Likes Received:
    3,952
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I'd be consistent, and give the House folks 6x 2-year terms, for a total of 12, matching the Senate. Other than that, I like it, with trepidations. Simply, I'm still struggling with the idea of if it's just to tell people who want their critter to stay their critter that they cannot, nor can anyone else. I get the upsides, but that... Bugs me.
     
  13. Shutcie

    Shutcie Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2021
    Messages:
    5,142
    Likes Received:
    4,347
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Oh, I think pointing to Nancy Antoinette and Brandon and asking "how long is too long?" would be about all it would take.
     
  14. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2013
    Messages:
    62,108
    Likes Received:
    17,010
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Our population is most certainly NOT equally educated.

    In fact, I would guess that nobody is wise enough to appoint for life.

    Today we have a SC who are chosen for life term, yet spend their LIVES toward ignoring our constitution.
     
    Last edited: Jan 12, 2025
  15. DentalFloss

    DentalFloss Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2013
    Messages:
    12,361
    Likes Received:
    3,952
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Eh, seems like that would violate the principals, if nothing else, of separation of powers, and checks and balances. The process is an Amendment is proposed, by anyone I suppose, though it has to be introduced in each chamber by a Member, they make phony speeches to an empty room all for the benefit of a video feed 5 people nationwide are watching, and then vote. IF they can get a 2/3rds majority to pass it, it's sent to the States for concurrence. Allowing the States to effectively bypass Congress is a no from me, dawg.
     
  16. DentalFloss

    DentalFloss Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2013
    Messages:
    12,361
    Likes Received:
    3,952
    Trophy Points:
    113
    California Dems are FUNDRAISING off the fires, and they're doing it in such a way that you won't even know you're "donating" to the democratic party if you drill down and read the fine print, and you're gonna lecture the GOP about credibility?? After 3 1/2 years of "Oh, he's sharper than a tack", and, "I will NOT pardon my son", not to mention the 10,000 times his mouthpiece repeated it as though the press were being silly by not believing them. You may not have figured it out yet, but your party is in the ICU, in a coma, on life support, and may not make it.

    And the events of the past few days are not helping their approval ratings... At all. A man, once positioned as a possible replacement for Joe, until Joe abruptly told the party who the nominee was gonna be, in a stunning blow to democrats credibility and their virtue signaling about "saving democracy", only to anoint a "candidate" who didn't have even a SINGLE. VOTE.

    But it's the GOP who has problems. I just sprained my eyeballs rolling them back in my head so far.
     
    Shutcie likes this.
  17. perotista

    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2014
    Messages:
    17,575
    Likes Received:
    6,154
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    This will go nowhere, although I believe if the president is term limited, then congress ought to be also. That if the president is limited to 8 years, then members of the House ought to be limited to the same 8 years. The two terms for senators or 12 years makes sense to me. Incumbents always have a huge advantage over the challengers, perhaps this would level the playing field a bit.


    I’m for it. Either Term limit congress or do away with the two term limit for the presidency.
     
    mdrobster likes this.
  18. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2016
    Messages:
    18,552
    Likes Received:
    14,530
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Sounds like you are a huge fan of the current process. LOL. The video feed to five people was a nice touch. I totally understand why you want to keep it.

    IMO, the states were supposed to have the power and the fed was supposed to be the small government. That’s runaway from us in the worst possible way. Allowing the states to propose a constitutional amendment doesn’t go against the original intent at all. Why shouldn’t the people have more power than they have now?
     
  19. Surfer Joe

    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2008
    Messages:
    25,360
    Likes Received:
    17,271
    Trophy Points:
    113
    George Washington did it voluntarily. There’s no need for a law with people of goodwill.
     
  20. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2016
    Messages:
    18,552
    Likes Received:
    14,530
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Cute. How do you propose we find 535 people of goodwill to be in Congress? LOL. We don’t even have five, now.
     
    Noone likes this.
  21. Andrew Jackson

    Andrew Jackson Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2016
    Messages:
    52,339
    Likes Received:
    35,297
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Neither will happen...
     
    perotista likes this.
  22. perotista

    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2014
    Messages:
    17,575
    Likes Received:
    6,154
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Agreed, but it should.
     
  23. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2018
    Messages:
    32,149
    Likes Received:
    18,361
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Now sure how the ever present "BUT DEMOCRATS" shriek is relevant to the topic. You won't see me rush their defense, and nor do I support them with my votes, but you scream every time someone says something critical about your political leaders. Why do you take it personally?

    Is this bill a serious attempt to change something? I find it hard to believe given all the inane commentary we have heard from their leadership lately, and some admit that they are trolling.
     
    Last edited: Jan 12, 2025
  24. Surfer Joe

    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2008
    Messages:
    25,360
    Likes Received:
    17,271
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I think we have many more than five people of good will in congress or government of any political persuasion.
    We have raving lunatics, aggressive extremists, corrupt egotists, weak, well meaning people, and courageous, thoughtful, intelligent people all competing for influence.
    The problem is that in an open society in the social media age, ignorance reigns supreme and people are easily manipulated.
    Uniformity of ideas seems to work better in a closed society or one not so exposed to the idiocracy of social media.
     
  25. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2016
    Messages:
    18,552
    Likes Received:
    14,530
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    By the time they are in their 3rd term, they are so jaded to the process, they just join in on the money, power grabbing frenzy that is the halls of Congress. Not one of them gives a carp about the people they swear to serve.
     

Share This Page