Revealed: Obama's CT Social Security # Traced To John Paul Ludwig (Lived CT-Died HI)

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  1. Bluesguy

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    Give us a link, some corroboration.

    All the more reason Obama should just release his vital information.
     
  2. Apuzzo

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    More information arriving:

    John Paul Ludwigs WW2 Draft Card with Connecticut address

    https://www.familysearch.org/s/reco...313517/p1&hash=HloWXpZgU9zB10k5M56iYku8TUc%3D

    Name:John Paul Ludwig
    Event:MILITARY
    Event Date:1942
    Event Place:New Canaan, Fairfield, Connecticut
    Residence:New Canaan, Fairfield, Connecticut
    Gender:Male
    Birth Date:17 Feb 1890
    Film Number:2283648
    Digital Folder Number:4135845
    Image Number:05496

    Picture of draft card:
    https://www.familysearch.org/search...ords/trk:/fsrs/idgs:004135845.004135845_05496
     
  3. Professor Peabody

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    Where in Connecticut were you born?
     
  4. Apuzzo

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    It is not difficult to prove that Obama still used that stolen CT SSN 042-68-4425 on his 2009 Federal Income Tax forms, filed in April 2010. Grab a copy online of his last year's filing and I would bet 3 out of 10 of you tech'ies can figure out how to see behind the electronic white-out they used to mask his SSN in last year's tax filing. They scratched-out and then
    whited out, his SSN. The whiteout is a pdf layer.

    Here is one screen shot example of what you can prove for yourself... This came from Obama's form 709

    [​IMG]
     
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  5. rahl

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    lol, what do you think that picture proves?
     
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    Are you saying all the folk who used it to search and got 'Obama' results on the internet before Obama has those sites purged are lying or are mistaken?
     
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    I didn't say I discounted it, that would require Obama producing the right documents, which I do not believe he can do. No I just noted that there will be no actual effect even if he was proven to be ineligible, as he will get the democrat exception to the law that the left always grants their folk when they get in trouble...The Geithner effect if you will, Hillary residence exceptions, the Rahm ineligibility issue, all waived or overlooked for dems.
     
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    No, not in this case. The public outcry is going to be of an unheard proportions and, most likely, the constitutional crisis will ensue. One of the worst things that will happen, should Obama be proven to be a fraud, is that he'll ruin the chances of many legitimate black candidates to be elected into high offices.
     
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    there are only 4 numbers visible on the image they have posted. there is nothing to indicate what the x'd out numbers are. Do you honestly believe random anonymous posters on a political board have obtained the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing president of the United States's SS#?
     
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    Okay I am missing something- where does any of this say anything about Jean Ludwig's Social Security number matching President Obama's?

    What is the source that shows Jean Ludwig's SS#?

    Look- if you really have a serious source- that shows that both Jean Ludwig and Barack Obama have the exact same social security number, then yes, that would be an issue worth investigating.

    If you have actual evidence, I assume you have, as a responsible citizen, reported this to:
    a) The Social Security information- here is the link to report fraud: http://www.ssa.gov/oig/hotline/information.htm
    b) The FBI- this would be an interstate crime: http://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/contact-us

    If you really believe that you have evidence that the President has committed fraud- then as a responsible citizen you have the moral responsibility to report this crime to the responsible authorities.

    You should be very excited about this, because a successful investigation showing fraud would be the first step towards impeachment.

    So- what are you waiting for?
     
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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCIEnSFUNNo&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCIEnSFUNNo&feature=related[/ame]


    Explain it...
     
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    Obamas identity is about to melt down faster than a Fukushima reactor. Cashill's and Corsey's books are the quake and tsunami that are about to slam into the Whitehouse.
     
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    2 years of such predictions and yet, not an iota of evidence and not a single success in your campaign to drive President Obama out of office.
     
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    I notice no comment on sources for your claims, evidence and of course- once again no reporting of this 'evidence' to any actual authority who could act on it.
     
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    Another question that begs to be asked... this article appeared some what... 6-7 years ago, and Obama never complained or asked AP to apologize for the mistake they obviously made by calling Obama Kenyan? Why's that?
     
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    Based on Jean Paul Ludwig passing in June 1981, I believe Obama "Adopted that SSN" with the help of grandman Dunham (who worked in the probate court) in the summer of 1981 in order to facilitate his transfer to Columbia University. I believe that Obama was attending Occidental College registered as a foreign student and a person not having a SSN. My surmise is that at that time he was no longer going to operate as a foreign student and needed better ID as a U.S. citizen and the SSN helped that cause.



    The SSN ending in 4425 with a CT prefix we know was used by Obama since his selective service registration card had that SSN provided with the name of Obama on it, whenever it was filed. Various national database searches show Obama using that 4425 number for various transactions in the Chicago IL area upon and after his arrival in that area. Research also reveals that the 4425 SSN was issued and used by one Jean Paul Ludwig up to June 1981. He died in HI at that time. This information is being sent to all members of Congress. Patience.

    On a side note:
    Adopting" the SSN of a recently deceased individual was a preferred method of the Weather Underground People to go underground and lose their former identities to avoid being caught.

    When did Ayers and Obama meet, anyway?

    They were neighbors in NYC back in 1981 at the time of the Brinks Bank Robbery. Also at that time Bernardine Dohrn was also in the business of making fake IDs and passports. Coincidently, that was the same year that Jean Paul Ludwig died.
     
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    Yes, good point...and after 2008, well it was way to late to ask for a retraction than wasn't it? I noticed that not a single liberal has tried to explain it either....they will be here soon enough with their usual..."it's doctored, edited" BS, no doubt.
     
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    "I believe..."
    "I believe ...
    "my surmise"

    So in otherwords- your whole first paragraph is what you have made up? Not one conclusive piece of evidence- it is all what you 'believe"?

    Evidence? "various national database searches" "research"- so in other words-you have anonymous and unsupported 'research' which you think suggests something.

    No wonder you are sending this pile of steer manure to Congress rather than the Social Security Administration or the FBI.

    If you thought you had any legal evidence you would be calling a news conference outside of the Social Security Administration headquarters today- but since all you have is the usual collection of Birther speculation you are sending it to Congress hoping someone will decide that this is a political issue that they can ride to re-election on.

    Lets check a week from now- if even nutty Michelle Bachmann hasn't made an announcement about your so-called 'evidence' then you either never even bothered to send it, or even she can recognize steer manure when it is fresh enough.

    The day you show you announce new 'evidence' and have actually provided that 'evidence' to law enforcement or some agency other than a online chat board I will be shocked- but right now this is just the same stuff you have been peddling all along.
     
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    I am not going to bother to watch the video- is there some actual news article that it references or is it the usual collection of Birther fantasies?
     
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    But of course you've watched the video, Mr. JEFF from SF - it's in the human nature to do so. You just have nothing to respond with, that's all :mrgreen:
     
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    Where did you get Obama's Social?
     
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    And there you go again, something else that now has to be defended.

    All he has to do is RELEASE THE VITAL INFORMATION.
     
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    he already did in june of 08
     
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    Not going to tell you. But you can get it all over the internet.
     
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    Does that mean the internet posters have access to the everyone's Social?
     

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