Revealed: Obama's CT Social Security # Traced To John Paul Ludwig (Lived CT-Died HI)

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  1. SFJEFF

    SFJEFF New Member

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    Nope- I have seen from people on these boards what watching Birther video's will do to a persons brain. Never watched it. You guys can all sit around in a circle and talk about how cool it is and I won't be able to participate. Sorry.
     
  2. SFJEFF

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    Hmmm how would releasing his birth certificate stop Apuzzo from making stuff up about President Obama's social security number?
     
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    So do you feel that the president should be arrested?
     
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    I'd love to know where they're getting their information, because it's clearly not from the SSDI (Social Security Death Index).

    There was a Jean Ludwig, born 17 Feb 1890 and died Jun 1981, last residence Hawaii. That SSN (045-26-8722) was issued in Connecticut in 1951.

    There's also a John Ludwig, born 27 May 1890 and died Mar 1977 with last residence San Jose, CA. That SSN (287-03-4875) was issued in Ohio before 1951.

    They're not even the same person, and the latter doesn't have an immediately obvious Connecticut connection. We're supposed to believe this is one person who had multiple numbers that match Obama's (they don't, and they're two different people), and we're supposed to believe that Obama's granny was plotting way back when to steal a number for him so he could be president.

    Right. I have a bridge I can sell you really cheap if you belief all of this crap.

    The number Apuzzo gives doesn't come up in the SSDI. Not surprising, since Obama is still alive. Oh, and you're only going to find someone in the SSDI if a claim for benefits was made against their number. There are plenty of people with social security numbers who have died but aren't in the database, and it only goes back to when they first computerized the records. Plenty of people born in the 1890s who lived long enough to be issued numbers but died before the records were computerized.

    So nothing seems to match the claim made in the OP. Seems as if they're making stuff up out of thin air.
     
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    The public outcry against Clinton was overwhelming...but after months of the left lying about the issue, empty headed slogans, and media water carrying, he walked under the democrat exemption to great popular adulation.

    The more obvious the violation of the law or norm, the greater the fervor from the left to excuse it and blame the folk who noted it in the first place.

    The Dem exception always trumps the law
     
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    Yes, long ago. I have seen the old results from selective service before the record was removed. I have no doubt that is the SS number BoBo uses. I am just not sure what his having a bogus number really means. I am also sure the issue is simply academic as the democrat exception to the law will apply.
     
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    Here's what you can do. Go to this site:

    https://www.sss.gov/RegVer/wfVerification.aspx

    Type in his name, (obama) date of birth (08041961)and the number we claim to be his social security number (042684425) and you will get this:

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    Then you take that selective service number (61-1125539-1) and compare that to his selective service registration card (the only government issued document that has ever been found with his name on it):

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    And you see that the numbers match. Showing that he used the number 042-68-4425 as his own social security number when he registered for selective service. And that number has been traced to Jean Paul Ludwig, a dead man.
    Now, who can explain that?
     
  8. Perriquine

    Perriquine On hiatus Past Donor

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    I'm afraid that you'll have to. As I posted above, the number you give is not tied to Jean Paul Ludwig in the SSDI. How was it traced to him?
     
  9. Dutch

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    And there you have it, Ladies and Gentlemen. SFJEFF never gets to the meat of subject matter, never see videos, yet very adamantly oppose everything being discussed here. The mind of a proud Liberal on display... how revealing :mrgreen:
     
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    lol, so we're supposed to take you at your word that you just know it's his SS#?

    and what democratic exception? no laws have been broken.
     
  11. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, not in this case. Yes, Clinton too broke the law, but it was about an "innocent" BJ in the oval office, so a lot of people cynically shrug their shoulders and said "SO"?

    If it is proven Obama stole someone's identity, it's a whole different ballgame. No way he'll survive this. Not a chance.
     
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    this is what I get when I do it.........https://www.sss.gov/RegVer/wfError.aspx?Message=BADATTEMPT&src=v
     
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    If not watching Birther propaganda video's is the mind of a proud Liberal, I am guilty.

    Unlike Birthers, I go like at the primary source documents, rather than just parrot what you have seen on a Birther video or Blog.

    That is why I know Hawaii has confirmed that President Obama was born in Hawaii and Birthers don't.
     
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    I will point out that Apuzzo has already admitted that this whole thing about Ludwig is all his speculation and that he has no actual evidence linking Ludwig to Obama.

    Once again- Birther speculation being used as proof by other Birthers of a crime that there is no evidence actually happened, and that Apuzzo himself admits he isn't reporting to anyone- other than he might write Congress.

    Apuzzo method of fighting crime is to post things on the Political Forum boards.

    I hope my neighbors will call the police if they see a crime happening, instead of writing their congressman.

    Apuzzo is more like the neighborhood busybody who is busy spreading rumors about the 'foreign' looking guy who moved onto the block and must be doing something illegal.
     
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    lol....................
     
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    So do you think that image is fabricated?
     
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    I don't know what it is, since nothing comes up when I type the number provided. And you can't really blame me for not taking birthers at their word, seeing as how they are caught on a daily basis making things up.
     
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    You mean like there being proof that Obama's is using someone else's SS#?
     
  20. Dutch

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    A stupid question to all the *******s - why did not any of you keyed Obama's CT SS number into Selective Services database before the record was scrubbed? I got a hunch, most of you did and know it was there. But you guys must...cover...for...Obama...at...all...costs... and therefore must lie. :puke:
     
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    And once again- proof that President Obama is using someone else's social security number?

    crickets chirping......
     
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    One step at the time. I just gave you the proof Obama's SS have been issued in Connecticut. Also, you've been shown that very same number Obama is using belongs to an elderly gentleman, passed a while ago (in two places, actually).

    Patience, patience...
     
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    No we have not. The claim was made, but nothing was offered as proof. Meanwhile I looked both men up in the SSDI, and neither number matches the one claimed to be Obama's.

    I posted those numbers and the data from the SSDI related to them in this very thread, and I got ZERO response back about it. Why do you suppose that is? Because it's easier for birthers to keep making the same questionable claims if they just ignore the truth.

    I asked how the numbers were traced back to Jean Paul Ludwig. Again: :crickets:

    So put up or shut up.
     
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    Where was the proof again that Obama's SSID was traced to John Paul Ludwig? I must've missed it even though I looked through the entire thread.

    Seems like just another birtherism. Lots of information with no corroboration.
     
  25. SFJEFF

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    I have asked Dutch- who keeps claiming that there is proof- but he just isn't ready to provide it the FBI yet and Apuzzo- to show me just two simple things-

    a link showing President Obama's SS# and a link to a reliable source showing that the SS# of whatever person Birthers are claiming that he has been using.

    If they have proof this should be simple.

    Of course I will really believe it the day they take all of their 'evidence' and present it to someone besides their Birther drum circle.
     

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