Revenge as a legal right of Russia

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    Revenge as a legal right of Russia


    As is known, Russia as a result of the collapse of the USSR, which, according to Putin, is tantamount to "the largest geopolitical catastrophe of the century" (), lost many territories. The Russian people, who for centuries created the state in their primordial territory and defended it from numerous enemies, turned out to be morally disadvantaged. Putin’s remark is quite true that a large number of Russians after this catastrophe now live abroad, and moreover, in artificially created states they are subject to unprecedented discrimination, reaching the point that they have to learn a language that originated from, so-called indigenous peoples. Putin’s legitimate desire to restore historical justice (1.2) provoked the anger and indignation of the Western elite who had long dreamed of taking possession of the riches of the Russian people and that today, thanks to Putin, Russia began to rise from its knees Russia's enemies are deliberately called revanchism to cause negative emotions among the common people . According to them, the “revanchist” Putin is breaking the established world order, while at the same time ignoring the fact that the artificially created disintegration of Russia is a violation of that world order. Any legal right of Russia, such as returning lost territories or laying gas pipelines in international waters, is hostile to them, while they themselves are illegally trying to lay the Trans-Caspian gas pipeline (3) under the Caspian Sea, which has historically been Russia's inland sea.



    I think Russia should immediately apply to the International Court of The Hague in order to punish Ukraine for the illegal occupation of the originally Russian land, namely Kievan Rus, from which the Russian state began, and also make claims to Iran, which should be responsible for the Scythians (Iranian-speaking people) for a long historical period illegally lived in the territory, which became Rus in a few centuries.


    1. Russia's national interests. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/#post-alikbahshi-35700

    2. Back to the empire, or the restoration of historical justice for Putin. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/?skip=50#post-alikbahshi-22792

    3. Trans-Caspian gas pipeline or the Third World War. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/?skip=50#post-alikbahshi-18362


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    True, after the Tatars destroyed Kiev, and Kievan Rus as a state ceased to exist, Rurik from the Scandinavian Rus tribe re-founded their Russian state, Muscovy, but this is another story.
     
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    Russians NEVER give up. Look at Sergej Bychkov and the Emelianenko brothers.

    And even the common Russian:
     
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    LOL....too funny, "never give up"....face it, its done. The lousy vatniks lost everything, so called empire, Warsaw Pact, and in the future the current RF. Moskalis are great fighters if one is running or defenseless against them. Otherwise they die by the millions,:D:roflol:. If it wasnt for US LendLease back in the war....90% of the vatniks wouldve been lampshades in German living rooms back in the day.
     
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    Probably the most dumbass post I've ever read. If not for the Russians, you may be speaking German....certainly anyone in Western Europe.

    The NAZIS were within 15 miles of Moscow and had penetrated all the way to the city of Volgograd (FKA Stalingrad) before they were turned back by the Russians.

    More Russians died in the death camps than Jews. Let that sink in. Upwards of 25 million Russians died fighting and because of the Nazis as compared to under 500K Americans.

    They were right to occupy East Germany and every other country along the way...they earned it.
     
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    Definitely.
     
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    Yes I saw Lavrov wrote an article about it, not surprising really, the west couldn't show the Soviet Union in a good light... that would never do. Millions of Russian soldiers died to defeat the Nazi's and the American's swoop in and claim victory ignoring Russia's role... typical really

    Russia says D-Day memorials are part of a 'false' history of World War II meant to airbrush out the Soviet Union

    https://www.businessinsider.com.au/...-pretend-ussr-didnt-win-wwii-2019-6?r=US&IR=T
     
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    Indeed yes. One other notable incident comes to mind that supports this view of yours -
    Ronald "Bonzo" Reagan: "Mr. Gorabatjov, tear down this wall!"
    The fact that Soviet demolishers were already poised with their cranes and jack-hammers was (is) ignored by Americans. Ask them ... they'll tell you it was Reagan who ended the Cold War single-handedly and that Gorbatjov collapsed in defeat the moment he heard Reagan speak those words.

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    They "earned" it??? LOL, they earned **** all?....it was an excuse for some lousy "iron curtain"....and some "berlin wall"....seems moskalis are great at building some kinda walls....and later they come crashing down. If not for the US involved the European theater, you would all be speaking German....including Russkis….if there would be any left.

    Face it....with US involvement....the war ended much faster than if we wouldn't have been involved. There would've been much more than 30 million dead Russians.:)
     
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    Well one cannot argue that the Normandy...."Overlord"...landings didn't play a pivotal point in history. It proceeded to end the war that much quicker...just like the bombs on Japan.

    "False History".....WTF is that? Where the **** were the US/Allied troops during those so called "victory parades" on Red Square during Soviet times? Nowhere to be seen....it was a Team Effort after all. Oh yes....a token few were invited some years back....2010ish to participate....during the 65th anniversary.

    "Great Patriotic War'?.....a liitle bit of BS afaic.....most of those former republics were forcibly dragged into this "invincible union" as Lenin once quoted..LOL.
     

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