Reviewing Atheist 'Lack Belief' in Deities theory. <<MOD WARNING ISSUED>>

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  1. Arjay51

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    You really should not use words lie rational that you don't know the meaning of and certainly do not apply to you.
     
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    I have gotten into several arguments with Matt Slick, and his bitch of a helper Diane Sellner. They are both horrible people
     
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    Apparently these people are heroes to some "agnostics" around here. I guess that if they appreciate David Irving then Slick is easy to swallow.
     
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    I realize you wish I would answer in a certain manner, but I don't give a **** what you want. The answer to the question is, I lack belief in a god or gods, as no evidence exists supporting the claim that one does exist.
     
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    Gods are simply a fictitious creation of man to make themselves feel better about dying, and in general, offer an excuse for being shitty people.

    Nothing more, nothing less.
     
  6. Kokomojojo

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    Thats nice
    If you cant tell me yes or no to the question 'does God exist' then you are simply playing games in your own head trying to fool yourself. Its ok with me, I dont care what you have to tell yourself to make it through the day, but since there are atheists that accept the existence of God now days it does not make an adequate distinction. Just because you dont believe in God does not mean you deny the existence of God.
     
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    I realize you wish I would answer in a certain manner, but I don't give a **** what you want. The answer to the question is, I lack belief in a god or gods, as no evidence exists supporting the claim that one does exist.
     
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    fine then you are one of those atheists that accepts God most likely exists but you do not believe in God.
     
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    you understand that everyone can see this is a lie right? You quoted me saying something entirely different. Lol
     
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    not so. its a requirement that when one who calls themselves an atheist to confirm they hold the position no Gods exist, just as its a requirement for a theist to affirm God(s) do exist, and for an agnostic to abstain from either position. If you do not agree you have to option to give us an affirmative response, no one cares what you believe, only the position you hold.
     
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    Yours doesn't seem to have been destroyed as you continue to spew it.

    If you were to stand on your feet, your world would right itself, in spite of your determination to avoid it.
     
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    lol, requirement? Atheism means lacking a belief in a god or gods.

    And my position is I lack belief in a god or gods, because no evidence exists supporting the claim that one does.
     
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    But you are not claiming to be an atheism, you are claiming to be an atheist, and atheists hold the position no Gods exist, yet you are terrified to say no Gods exist.

    Only a theist or agnostic would reject holding the position that no Gods exist, clearly you are not an atheist as you claim.
     
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    Nope. Atheists lack belief in a god or gods.

    It's amusing that you continue to think other people must live by and call themselves what you think they should.
     
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    yeh since your version is irrational.

    https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/atheism-agnosticism/

    I am sure you think you have a nifty ;label but it would be irrational for stalin to call himself the Pope as well.
     
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    Clearly after 151 pages you still do not understand what an atheist is, most theists struggle with the concept of gods being meaningless, you are not alone in this.
     
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    and that definition is rejected in philosophy, for one reason it would include agnostics who are not atheist by a long shot.
    You are sourcing 'common usage' which is not a legitimate formal definition.
     
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    My version is backed by the universities, iow philosophy, yours is backed by gomer pyle.
     
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    I don't care what you think is rejected. That is the definition of atheism. Your approval or acceptance is not required.

    Of course it is.
     
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    My approval? Its philisophical consensus. What 'I' think? I gave you the link to stanford and they run through the logic. No one has approached defeating their logic, not even swensson, and WSmith painstakingly went through it bit by bit for you.

    If you fail to deny the existence of God you cannot be atheist.

    Seems your logic fails.
     
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    Now you are making things up again, there are plenty of posts here quoting all sorts of authorities, but as usual you simply falsify the evidence, mis-quote, fail to understand, ignore or stick your fingers in your ears.
     
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    It isn't, but that is irrelevant.
    I have clearly defeated their logic.
    It's amusing you still think people need to be or believe what you think they should. Lol
     
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    Again you are simply making things up, there is no consensus of philosophers and the article from Stanford simply does not show that.
     
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    Oh? then quote your lacker version from stanford

    Great lets see your post, thats something I would not have missed.
     
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