Rittenhouse trial goes to opening statements after jury set

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  1. HurricaneDitka

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    FBI Spy Video Shows Kyle Rittenhouse Being Chased Down at Kenosha Riot…Which Explains Why You’ve Never Seen It.
    The dirtbags illegitimately concealed this critical evidence despite their duty to share it with the defense.
    Few things more disgusting than Dirtbag Prosecutors who conceal exculpatory evidence despite their duty to share it.
    Use of Force Experts are widely puzzled as to why Rittenhouse is even charged for shooting Rosenbaum, clearly prosecutors have no legitimate case that this was an unlawful use of deadly force.

    The man chasing Rittenhouse had already threatened his life wanting to get a hold of the teen’s gun. Rittenhouse came running in with a fire extinguisher to put out fires that Rosenbaum had been starting.

    "The FBI video also corroborates video showing Rosenbaum’s friend, Joshua Ziminski, fired the first shot that night."

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    "Friend" who started the gun fight that left First Rioter Dead."​

    At one point, Ziminski is filmed holding back a violent Rosenbaum as he threatened others, and his wife, Kelly, began screaming violently, repeatedly calling for the mob to come kill Rittenhouse.

    "Rittenhouse sticks around, calls someone, and, as the mob calls for his head, runs up the street toward where the cops have blocked the street."

    "He doesn’t make it that far before being jumped and kicked by several others" that ran him down and attacked him violently. As this brave young man fought for his life, another rioter trying to kill him was shot dead, as the final rioter came at the young man with a pistol to shoot him, Rittenhouse got off the final shot, hitting him in the bicep, disabling his shooting arm.

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    Rioter violently strikes young Rittenhouse in the head after the crowd ran him to ground. Young Rittenhouse, managed to roll into a firing position and stopped Mr. Skateboard with a lethal shot.

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    Then the final rioter charged the young man, aiming a loaded pistol at him, young Rittenhouse's final shot was to the bicep, disabling his shooting arm.

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    On that link there is an areal video showing both running, but like I said, it does not mean one was chasing the other. When Rosenbaum reached the lot, he went between two cars and waited for Kyle to pass, and then he started chasing him. We will never know if Rosenbaum thought he was being chased. I do not think it was the case, but he might have thought so.
     
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    Wisconsin doesn't have citizen's arrest. Full stop.
     
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    Even if Rosenbaum WAS being chased, Rittenhouse had passed him and he could've simply gone the other direction and down a side street to break contact. In fact, by your estimation, contact was broken and then Mr. Rosenbaum decided he would pursue.
    That's the beginning of his assault, which makes him amenable to self defense.
     
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    And just like that, they are now talking about Huber "stopping an active shooter" aka make a citizens arrest. That was my point yesterday, and what I wanted to hear about today. The judge says he will think about it, but boils down to the intent (citizen arrest / stop active shooter) vs actions (skateboard smack)

    Lets see how it works out.

    Thanks, but I already shared how WI views the issue of citizens arrest. It is justifiable (thank God). Would you let rapist walk away, or try to stop? Well, I shouldnt have to ask, because clearly you believe the law ties your hands, so you would let him go.
     
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    Except he's not an active shooter, he's in full flight
     
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    He just killed someone and was in process or fleeing the scene, and then he fired again, so he was very much an active shooter (whether or not it fits you politically correct definition of the word).
     
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    I have been watching the failing prosecution attempt to blame Kyle.
    Rosenbaum attacked Kyle. Then Huber hit Kyle with a skate board.
    Examine Rittenhouse. He came armed in case he was attacked.
    His major mission was to assist patients needing medical care.
    His second mission was to deter aggression against property of the innocent shop keepers.
    I see no way t he prosecution has a knock out punch. I see a Jury freeing Kyle.
     
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    Kyle did all he could do to have the cops deal with it. All he could do I guess is break into a cop car and set down for acts by the cops so he did turn himself in, in a short time.
     
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    The cops thanked Kyle for his actions on that day. Video of it was shown to the court.
     
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    The only times Kyle fired were when he was in imminent danger of serious bodily harm. That's not a description that matches up with traditional / broadly-understood (and politically-loaded) use of the term "active shooter".
     
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    He just killed someone and indeed was in full flight not offering anyone further violence until they chased him down, knocked him down, and attacked him while he was on the ground.

    His flight disallows the legality of their pursuit and attack, making it assault. This is incredibly basic, black letter law.
     
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    I see your point about Counts 2 and 5.

    Still, some jurors may feel that it is possible to reach a resolution that Acquits on the more serious Homicide charges and Convicts on 2 and 5.

    But, who really knows what they are thinking?

    I just hope there aren't any more jurors dropping out.

    Anyway, as to the weapons charge, I think the ONLY reason that he is "singled out" is b/c he was under 18.

    Obviously, this sort of case isn't a cause celebre like the Derek Chauvin Case.

    If KR gets acquitted, I really don't see the potential for any civil unrest.

    The passage of time has really taken this case off of the front burner--and, I honesty don't think most people even care what happens to him.

    Even if he is acquitted.

    The entire Anti-KR Narrative ("Hey Lookie! Trump Supporter Bad!) really lost steam after the Election.
     
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    Barnes opinion is disturbing but surely the facts speak for themselves. There is no racial aspect to this trial, the mood of America has changed, how could he not be found innocent?
     
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    That's utter rubbish. He was running towards the police. An "active shooter" describes a criminal shooting civilians or police, not a man defending himself from 3 attacks. Come on, dude...
     
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    Perhaps. I'd suggest that the admission in court that he stated "if I catch you out later" is very much in play. Shows intent to do great bodily harm. A legal condition. The fact that Rosenbaum turned out to be a just released metal ward resident assaulting someone is beneficial knowledge for the jury to have. Again, goes to both intent and state of mind. I doubt it ultimately will be excluded from evidentiary admission.
     
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    Since he said that in Rittenhouse's physical presence and seems to have been addressing that comment to him and Baltch I'd agree. Its already come in.

    Mental ward resident: Means nothing, kyle had no knowledge of it. The prosecution would have to open the door by claiming he was a nice man or some bs like that which is why you've seen him not do that with any of the 3 shot persons.
     
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    The new video clearly shows Rosenbaum and gang organizing an ambush for Kyle.
     
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    Was he fleeing the scene or was he trying to get away from more violent rioters who wanted to kill him? You said he started to run then stopped and fired again. What was Kyle's reason for stopping and firing again?
     
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    The prosecutor is doing a bang up job of crafting the self defense narrative. His 2nd chair seems to be locked in a food coma. The leftist news media rewrite history every time they comment on the current trial, as if, they were supplied a script from which to read. I bet on that premise.

    Meanwhile, back in the court room, the prosecution blunders, fumbles, dissembles and otherwise mounts a clearly discredited narrative which the huge has rebuked several times already.
     
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    Your attempt to rewrite factual events duly noted. So, why are you here actively supporting a story that makes the child rapist a hero again?
     
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    Everyone knows he wasn't fleeing the scene. He ran right at the cops immediately after shooting Rosenbaum, and never stopped trying to get to them. Those men tried to kill that child before he could get to them, and I know everyone knows that, but their political opinions are enough for them to sacrifice children.
     
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    It was before he killed people.
     
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    The video shows that after he shot Rosembaum at the car lot, he made a phone call and then took off running. At that time there was no one chasing him. However, as he ran people became aware that there had been a shooting and he was the shooter, they started running after him. One of the victims (the one shot in the arm) even ran with him and talked to him to find out what had happened. Then they caught up on him and that is when he killed Huber and shot the other guy in the arm. Self defense? Possibly. We shall see.
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