Rittenhouse trial goes to opening statements after jury set

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  1. Reality

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    Flyboy: Fleeing the scene = trying to get away from more people attacking him.
    If you flee the scene you are in flight. If you are in flight, further use of force to stop you from shooting people is not legally called for. At that point its a cops will handle it. If you chase, you can get self defensed to death.
    Characterize it either way, the result is that he was running away and offering no further violence renewing a right to self defend if indeed he had ever lost it.
     
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    I agree. I don't know of a single person who would have handed their rifle to that group of criminals in a frenzy. In fact, most would have sprayed and prayed as soon as they were knocked down.
     
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    Yeah even McGinnis, who was just there and actually rendering aid to Rosenbaum gets punched in the head WHILE CARRYING ROSENBAUM TO THE CAR.
    Like clearly rendering medical aid and someone just takes a cheap shot at him.

    I was a bit confused why the defense wasn't much more zealous about objecting to these raw narrative giving tapes, but now I get it.
    All you see in those tapes is ****ing chaos and people being crazy. If that doesn't convince the jury he couldn't surrender to the mob nothing will
     
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    Yes, new in the sense that the prosecution and the dirtbags at the FBI are no longer concealing it.
     
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    That contradicts the fact that Kyle was the only person who shot people despite of widespread mayhem and abundance of guns.
     
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    you'd have a point if one of the people he shot wasn't trying to beat him over the head with a skateboard and in the other one clearly with the gun in his hand trying to get around the back side of him to execute him.
     
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    Before.
     
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    So far according to a prosecution witness Rosenbaum lunged for Kyles gun while Rosenbaum was chasing him.

    When the rioting crowd caught up with Kyle drop kick man kicked him in the head, Huber hit him with a skateboard then grabbed his gun and the guy shot in the arm was swinging a pistol his way.

    The prosecution keeps proving the defenses case.
     
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    Did Kyle go around his targets so be could execute them in the back of the head like they do in the movies?

    No, of course not, because the whole idea is absurd.

    He had a handgun and was in close proximity to Kyle on several occasions, and never attempted to fire the gun.

    "trying to get around the back side of him to execute him" LOL :D Listen to yourself.
     
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    This witness seems a little slow, but clearly none of the gunmen had a permission to be on their property, let along climb onto the roof. They were trespassing.
     
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    no he shut the guy that seemed to be trying to do that to him.
     
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    Is it too hard to admit that "trying to get around the back side of him to execute him" is totally made up by you, or you heard it from someone else? If you want to kill someone, you shoot them. What happened to critical thinking?

    Now they are showing still photos of the scene, which prove beyond any shadow of doubt there was no "dead end". Having said that, I have stated before that lack of dead end does not negate self defense.
     
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    Critical thinking is something that would be demonstrated by telling all the facts and not partial misrepresentation such as you have done throughout this entire thread.

    why not tell the truth?
     
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    So saying "trying to get around the back side of him to execute him" without a shred of evidence is your idea of "the truth"? I suppose that would explain all the nonsense you have tried to offer here as "fact".

    Its beyond obvious such claim a figment of someone's imagination.
     
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    Everything I have said is objectively and demonstrated as true. Your inability to stay up to date on the case is not my fault. Thus far yiu have done nothing but offer misrepresentation.
     
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    This trial is exposing the real chaos that ordinary citizens had to deal with during the riots that were encouraged by our current leaders. Good luck Kyle, Ole Joe and Kamala will be weighing in soon...
     
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    The riots, in the attackers stirred up their innate hatred and urge to destruction and violence.

    In young Kyle, trigger his urge to protect and defend, provide medical aid and run toward fires with a fire extinguisher.
     
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    That's because they singled out baby faced Kyle. After seeing the FBI video, it confirms my initial suspicions: This group was going to beat Kyle up and take his nice gun. Bad decision. I've been on the streets for years. I've lived in crackhouses. I know what I'm talking about, and I'm like 90% sure that's what happened here. After Rosenbaum was shot, and Kyle ran, similar to what a cougar would do as soon as you turn your back, they tried to pounce on him, except this time their intent was to prevent him from reaching the police, so they could kill or maim. Again, bad decisions.
     
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  19. HurricaneDitka

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    They did some things after they caught up to him, before he shot them. You are disingenuously skipping over those critical acts, because they complete obliterate the narrative you're telling here.
     
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    What are you talking about? The owner opened the building for them, and showed them where the ladder was to get on the roof.
     
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    It is crazy that Rittenhouse was so determined to speak to the police that the cops had to point a service weapon at him and deploy pepper spray in order to drive him off. At least according to the last police officers testimony.
     
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    no I saw it on the video.

    It's just that I'm not devoted to partisanship.
     
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    there is evidence the video the gun and the person in questions hand.

    You don't want to accept this because of Partisanship.
     
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    Watching this trial is surreal. It's like Kyle has two defense teams and no prosecution. And a fair / friendly / sympathetic judge to boot. It really feels like all the trained legal professionals in the courtroom want the state to lose this case, and are trying to make sure they do.
     
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    TIL Huber was a real piece of ****, threatening to gut his brother like a pig and burn the house down with his family in it.
     

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