Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. emerges as frontrunner among declared 2024 Democrats

Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. emerges as frontrunner among declared 2024 Democrats | Fox News Video

Big yawn. RFK Jr has all the charisma & magnetism of Michael Dukakis. Plus he's too far right of Vladimir Lenin; the Dem establishment will do its best to bury him should he gain any momentum. JFK & RFK would be pariahs in today's Democrat party.

 

Could you even imagine JFK as a Democrat today, with his support of the 2nd and being pro life against abortions?
He would have to run as a Republican as the left would eat him up.

 

I often think of JFK saying, “Ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country,” and thinking how that would be received by today's democrats and their voters. Today's democrats would never even think of such a thing. It's all about what your country can do for you.

 

Yup, American first is now a racist term.

 

When it comes to the Democratic Party historically, the early front runner rarely wins the Democratic Nomination in the last 50 years or so. Bill Clinton was not the front-runner for the DNC in 1992. John Kerry was not the front-runner in 2004. Obama was not the front runner in 2008. Hillary was in 2016, but most of the other prominent DNC leaders would not run against Hilary.

RFK Jr is progressive with his environmental policies, gun reform, crime reform, and immigration. He is moderate on his foreign policy. His biggest drawback is his use of autism against Covid vaccines and the conspiracy theories that he championed publicly.

The DNC is looking for fresh new leadership, I am just not willing that Covid will be the issue that binds DNC voters together. Definitely progressive, but not the establishment. And a DNC establishment candidate will more than likely win the 2024 nomination whether Biden runs or not.

 

LOL-- How many other, prospective Republican contender's for the Presidential nomination, are pushing for Civil Rights legislation?

Democratic politicians can be, and are, personally, against abortion. I am not aware of Kennedy ever supporting legislation to outlaw it, for others, who might not share his feelings.

 

I didn't know there was any further civil rights legislation being discussed. So you have Democrats running on this?
Do tell.

Wow, you really don't know, do you. Yeah, well, That would be because it was already illegal to get an abortion in the US at that time. lol Imagine that.
JFK was a devout Catholic. Abortion was a direct sin against God. No major political, social, or religious group advocated legal abortion. For most it was an unspeakable crime of murder.

 

Being Not Joe Biden makes him all I need to vote for him in the primary.

 

Carlson interviewed Kennedy last night and he showed clips of the left wing media already trying to take him down.

 

Do try to follow the conversation. I made my comment, to this quote from you:

Condor060 said: ↑
Could you even imagine JFK as a Democrat today, with his support of the 2nd and being pro life against abortions?
He would have to run as a Republican as the left would eat him up.

My reply treated both sides of your argument: first that he could not be personally Pro-Life, and still be a Democrat-- which is false; second, that his politics align more appropriately today, with the GOP. FYI, since JFK is no longer with us, we do not know his opinion, on any current issues. It was therefore assumed, that your comment was based on the politics of Kennedy, when he was alive. Is that not true? If not, please explain the basis of your assertion.

Based on Kennedy's advocacy for Civil Rights, however, it is reasonable to assess his current views, in your hypothetical suggestion, as being in line with his past ones; the current analog would be to favor police reform, for example. On the contrary, the Republican opinion seems to be more the idea that no civil injustice any longer exists, between the races. There is no justification for assuming Kennedy would hold that view (duh).

If it was not then a legal issue, then you have no reason to assume that Kennedy would be against the Roe standard, were he still alive; many consider this, in fact, a civil rights issue. If Kennedy is not on the record, as as saying he was against legalizing abortion, you have no basis for your statements. Not all Catholics felt that way; but even if Kennedy did accept the Church teaching, that would not by any means suggest that he would try to make the rest of the country, follow his religious views. Kennedy made a point of assuring the nation that he would not be taking orders from the Vatican: he'd pledged to be the U.S. President first, and foremost, and a Catholic, second.

Lastly, I now understand how silly was the argument you had been making. You were not talking about a modern day version of JFK-- you had meant someone alive now, whose views had been frozen in time, for 60 years. By that way of figuring, we could say that if Jefferson were alive today, he would believe in slavery. IOW, your entire argument is conceived in foolishness.

 

Carlson? Of lying Fox Carlson? Ya, there's a person you can trust.
The biggest liar on the biggest lying media outlet.

 

So from that comment you posted this

Please

Yet Democrats are frothing at the mouth over Roe? What planet are you on? All we have heard is nonsense about banning abortions coming from the left, which is also fake propaganda.

DEFLECTION
There was no claim from me about Kennedy aligning with todays issues. As a matter of fact, I was very specific in my post what I was talking about.
It was ONLY his stance on abortions and the 2nd amendment.
But I see you still like to wonder into pretend land to make a point.

So one paragraph ago, you state (And I am quoting)
since JFK is no longer with us, we do not know his opinion, on any current issues.
Yet here you are telling us, if he was still alive he would support (X)
Its amazing how fast you can jump the track from paragraph to paragraph.
But its all too common in your posting history

Coming from the poster who didn't even know abortion was illegal when Kennedy was president, I find your accounting even more guess work.

And just to educate you further, it was the American Medical Association that launched a full fledged criminalization campaign against abortion in 1880. It wasn't made legal until 1973.
In 1955 Planned Parenthood held a first-of-its-kind conference on the issue of abortion to seek legalization. The doctors who attended the national conference on abortion made the bold move to publicly call for abortion law reform.

So the call to legalize abortion was pounding before Kennedy took office and If Kennedy wanted to approach the abortion issue to legalize it, he would have.
But he refused to even consider it. So much for your Kennedy theories on pro life.

Another Deflection
The only thing silly is your desperation to deflect when you get caught posting about something you have no clue about
I specifically stated the only two issues I was talking about. Abortion and gun ownership to show how far Democrats had wondered from those two issues.
And no amount of fake post about slavery, Police reform, or civil rights deflections changes what I posted

 

Dude there is so much civil rights legislation and associated court cases to go with it that it takes ten lawyers a month to weed through all of it so they can find something relevant to sue someone over.

 

I go by RCP averages which hasn’t included RFK Jr. yet.


https://www.realclearpolitics.com/e..._democratic_presidential_nomination-7550.html



At 35%, the democrats are looking for someone other than Biden it seems. But if Biden wants the nomination, it’s his. You do have this:


Biden 2024 splits Dems but most would back him: AP-NORC poll


https://www.yahoo.com/news/poll-biden-2024-splits-dems-040104895.html

 

RFK, Jr. is no RFK. If Jr. succeeds prepare for the Green New Deal on steroids.

 

JFK also supported major tax cuts and strongly supported American interests internationally (although screwed up badly in two instances -- Bay of Pigs and Vietnam).

 

The Republicans don't even want to pay taxes, so, what do you think they are going to sacrifice for their country? Oh, yeah, mindless flag waving is cheap, anyone can do it.

 

Both of my parents were Republicans and voted for JFK. I think my mom only voted for him because of Jackie. lol
I can remember how popular she was at that time. I was only 5 when Kennedy was shot but I remember watching his funeral procession on our B/W TV and feeling so sad. I am sure that had a lot to do with dinner conversation about JFK but this country really mourned his death. I even remember watching Walter Cronkite announcing his death.
We were stationed at McCoy AFB (Now Orlando international) which is why that airport code is MCO. We were there during the Cuban missile crisis.

 

He's an anti-vaxxer screwball. Democrats would never support him.



https://morningconsult.com/2023/04/11/robert-f-kennedy-jr-biden-polling-2024/

 

Democrats are more likely to support caring for poor people--Medicare, Medicaid, SNAP, welfare.

 

Yeh. The most “flag waving” Republicans I know spent years to decades serving us in the military at home and being shot at overseas. There seems to be some correlation between the flag waving and that service in my experience. I’m not big on war and empire building, but I’d never disparage the sacrifices those mindless flag wavers made. And I’m quite certain not everyone can do what they did for us. Quite certain.

 

Seems like you're picking a fight. There are a lot of Republican flag wavers who haven't served.

 

A lot of Democrat flag wavers who haven’t served as well. So?

I’m picking a fight? I didn’t disparage a whole political party by stereotyping and inferring compelled contributions to the treasury are the only way to “do for your country”.

SMH.

 

republicans would eat him alive if he told them that, they do not want to do anything for the country

 

Does he always speak with such a raspy voice or has he got a frog in his throat?