Ron Paul: Elon Musk Asks Libertarian Legend To Join Department Of Gov't Efficiency

Ron Paul "Revolution" Reignites After Elon Musk Asks Libertarian Legend To Join Department Of Gov't Efficiency

'"If you buy one Donald Trump before Tues they are throwing in one Ron Paul on top of an Elon Musk run (DOGE) Department of Government Efficiency."'

'With just two days left before the presidential election, Libertarians are waking up Saturday to a bunch of buzz on X about a potential "Ron Paul Revolution" in the White House—only possible if Donald Trump wins next week.'

Libertarians, do you want what you claim you want?



Ron Paul expressed interest. Elon Musk said "Giddy Up!"

Musk chimed in on X: "It would be great to have Ron Paul as part of the Department of Government Efficiency!"

On Friday evening, AFpost wrote on X, "Ron Paul says he wants to join Elon Musk to cut government waste in second Trump administration."

Libertarians can now put Ron Paul in the WH by voting for Trump!

If you were going to write in Ron Paul, all you have to do is vote for Trump.



Even JD Vance is hearing Ron Paul's argument on The Fed



Real Freedom is closer than it's ever been.

Please discuss.

 

A true libertarian, and that's much better than a radical socialist.

 

Yep, Harris is the next POTUS but the Trump Party will try to steal it again and will fail again.

 

We don't need to do away with the IRS or taxes.
Americans should have "skin in the game" when it comes to their government.
That, after all, is the whole point, isn't it?

But I am excited at the idea of Musk et al going after government waste and fraud.

Now, if we can just get trump to tell congress; bring me a balanced budget not exceeding $4.9 TRILLION by April 15, or count on me vetoing whatever you do pass, and if you pass nothing count on being held in session until you do.

 

Except, Trump will not do this. He talks a good game, but in reality he is the king of debt. Why won't he do this? Because $1.9 trillion of cut government spending is 6.5% of GDP. In other words: Instant recession.

What you WILL see: More tax cuts, while increasing spending, further exploding the deficit.

 

And we already know what we'll get with Kamala. 4 more years of record debt, open borders and rising prices.

Along with price controls, more business killing regulation and BILLION dollar charging stations.

You shoulda stayed with Brandon. Then 25 him after the election. The only way your man(woman) will ever properly live in the whitehouse.

I don't understand how cutting $2TRILLION in fraud and waste puts us in recession.

If we're relying on crooks to keep us out of a recession we have big problems, eh?

 

That $1.9 trillion comes out of our pockets. Put it back in our pockets and we well decide for ourselves what to spend it on.

 

So, the $1.9 trillion, or 6.5% of GDP do not pay people's salaries, contractors, capital expenitures, all of which are being spent back into the economy? And those people who lose their contracts, are laid off, stop producing things for capital invetsments won't cut their spending? That's why this is so difficult to discuss with MAGA, because they believe in the economic tooth fairy. Tax cuts pay for themselves, and spending cuts won't affect the economy. Yeah, right....

It doesn't come out of our pockets. It's borrowed. But, keep living in economic tooth fairy world. If it was easy cutting the deficit, it would have been done a long time ago. And Trump would have done it when he was in office for four years. However, he didn't, even before covid. If you think about it, you, too, will figure out why he didn't.

 

I've given examples of waste.
The government has been paying 700 times cost for soap dispensers for one of its transports. Buying from, say, bed bath and beyond for military soap dispensers would hurt Boeing, help bed bath and beyond, and save us some serious tax money.

Getting rid of fraud and waste doesn't cause a recession excess government spending, specifically debt spending, drives inflation.

These are not difficult concepts to understand.

Are they?

 

And no, when one way or the other a politician or bureaucrat benefits from waste and overspending in government you'll never stop it without some serious arm twisting.

Trump and musk will twist those arms.
Harris will suck up to the over spenders.

 

You can't have a serious discussion if you think that cutting waste will balance the budget. This is the reality: If you don't want to touch non-discretionary spending (SS, Medicare..), you have to cut ALL discretionary spending to balance the budget. That includes 100% of military spending. Are you in?

Or, you have to cut some of SS, Medicare spending, if you want to preserve defense spending. However, Trump has promised he won't touch those. So, something has to give. What is it going to be? Maybe, you can come up with a proposal. And, no, just saying cutting waste will do the trick is not a serious proposal.

 

Your assumptions and claims are incorrect. Ignorant in fact.

I've explained how we can cut 30% out of the budget without touching benefit programs funded by dedicated payroll taxes.

I'm not going to repeat myself because you weren't paying attention in class. Go find my prior posts and we can go from there.

Consider this though: precovid , we managed with a less than $5TRILLION budget. How come, in 2 years, that ballooned to almost $6 TRILLION and now $7 TRILLION?

I'll tell you: ILLEGAL MIGRANTS, Pork spending for nonsense like EV charging stations at a BILLION a station, and forgiving student loans.

 

What's wrong with trying to cut waste from the federal budget?

 

Nothing.
Well, except if trump does that the liberals will be to blame for the waste.

Better they bankrupt the country.

 

Quote your previous post, otherwise it means nothing. I am not doing the work for you to search your previous posts, it's up to you to support your claims with quotes.

Here is my quote on previous discussions on the issue, including my solution.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...in-win-no-matter-what.619238/#post-1074841290

"What WOULD work, and I have said this before, is for the GOP and Dems to make a pact that there will be no tax cuts and no new spending for the next 10 years, and current spending will be reduced by $100 billion per year. However, that will NEVER happen, because it would remove the bashing of the other party as an incentive to get elected, thus, it is a non starter."

And, what I said about the "magical" Trump econmy before covid, which was purely deficit driven:

"Let's look at Trump's previous "glorious" economy. GDP: $20.7 trillion. GDP growth: 2.4% = $0.5 trillion. Deficit: $0.8 trillion. Therefore, the ONLY reason we had positive GDP growth, in which was probably Trump's best year, was because of deficit spending. Take the $0.8 trillion in deficit spending out of the economy, and you get an instant recession. Now, how would that help a president to get re-elected? And that's why no president in their right mind would tackle the deficit, because they wouldn't make it to the next term. And you wouldn't either."

Now, the ball is in your court.

 

Opening another federal department is an odd way to cut waste

 

Well, I've already explained. Not my problem you haven't been paying attention. And no, I won't be repeating myself just to feed your bloated ego.

You appear to be too lazy to catch up with the rest of the forum. Expect to fail this class unless you start applying yourself.

 

It's funny that he professes to lecture you on economics when he plans to vote for the same person that just allowed at least 8 million illegals to flood into this nation within 4 years.

 

LOL! In other words, you have nothing. It shouldn't be hard for you to cite yourself. So, what's your problem? Do you REALLY think I'll read through your +3500 posts to find the ONE that MAY be relevant, but which probably only exists in your imagination?

And that's why one can't have a serious discussion about the deficit, when one side thinks that balancing the budget is easy, while they have failed to do the math. And, when they are called out, they still refuse to do the math. But, keep dreaming on that Trump will fix it. He won't. He'll make it worse.

I can't vote, remember? Oh, and how did 8 million illegals increase the deficit?

No, what is strange is that YOUR side seems to think that deporting 10s of millions of illegals, or 5% of the population, will NOT lead to economic problems, i.e. a recession (if it would even be remotely possible to deport all those illegals).

 

Are you not aware of the cost to this nation due to illegal immigration?

 

Good point, but let's not jump the gun here. If another dept can cut more $$$ from the budget than the new dept requires, it will pay for itself. But I would recommend the dept be temporary and sunset after three years. Then when the dept closes shop that would be savings in itself.

 

He's so focused on trolling me that if he'd done his homework and paid attention he'd already know the plan I advanced. Not that it would matter, he'd just fall back on the same old "anything you do to stop debt spending will crash the economy and we'll all be eating cat food."

They really do think we're that stupid.

 

We'll start with the Felons, the Murderers, and Rapists that Kackles let in.

Are you ok with deporting the Rapists, the Murderers, and the Felons that Kackles let in?

 

Yeah. the problem is we keep adding more and more federal departments, whether it be standalone departments or branches of already existing ones.. and many of them aren’t really necessary.

The thing is, once you create them, they’re very hard to get rid of, there’s this mindset once we have it that we can’t exist without it. For example, if you suggested getting rid of the Department of Homeland Security, people would think you’re absolutely crazy, even though we functioned just fine without it clear up until 2002