Russia claims evidence UK sabotaged pipeline, to cut Germany off from Russian oil

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Russia claims they have evidence that the UK sabotaged the undersea pipeline to cut Germany off from Russian natural gas, trying to starve Russia of revenue amidst the conflict in Ukraine.

    Apparently evidence exists due to sheer stupidity from the British prime mininister.

    Kremlin Spokesperson Dmitry Peskov told reporters said that "our intelligence services have data indicating that British military specialists were directing and coordinating the attack." "There is evidence that Britain is involved in sabotage, in a terrorist attack on vital energy infrastructure, not Russian, but international," he added. He asserted that the West should "carefully" analyze Moscow's information. "We expect that despite the unacceptable silence of the European countries, this analysis will nevertheless be carried out," he said. He further added that Russia would also consider further steps. On its account, London has denied the charges. Earlier today, the spokesperson for the Russian Foreign Ministry Maria Zakharova asserted that the world needs to know about the text message sent from British Prime Minister Liz Truss to US Secretary of State Antony Blinken - "It's done" after the attacks on the Nord Stream pipelines in the Baltic Sea.
    Kim Dotcom, the founder of Megaupload, a file-sharing website, tweeted that Truss used her iPhone to send a message to Blinken saying "it's done" after the pipeline exploded. According to him, Russian intelligence knows that the UK was behind the sabotage.​

    https://english.almayadeen.net/news...-uk-of-directing-and-coordinating-nord-stream

    The US and UK were trying to pressure Germany to stop buying natural gas from Russia, but Germany was reluctant to stop it completely since they are so reliant on it.
     
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    This should be in a conspiracy section.
     
  3. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Somebody sabotaged that pipeline.
    Even if you regard the above story as speculation or theory, it probably is the most likely scenario.
     
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    It was a six-person team of Ukrainian special operations forces that sabotaged the Russia-Germany natural gas pipeline. Britain is too noble as a country to resort to terrorism.

     
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    ...and go no further.....the whole f**king lot of them are a corrupt bunch of industrial grade belt-driven liars....Russia can claim whatever the f**k they want....
     
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    The OP's article was published a year ago when we knew little about the terrorist attack on Russia. But a few months ago, it was made clear that the pipeline bombing was a Ukrainian job, based on intelligence leaks. Russia could use this as a pretext for war.

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    The democrats surely won’t investigate this. I have been a fan of Ukraine aid this whole time if we find this to be true we need react differently and if the UK was involved I would assume the US was to some extent as well. They wouldn’t do that without our blessing.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have my doubts that Ukraine has the resources or expertise to carry out an underwater sabotage operation, deep under water, in the Baltic Sea. That would be a 6 hour trip through Ukraine, another 6 and a half hour drive through Poland, and then probably a more than 2 hour boat ride into Baltic Sea to get over the pipeline.

    It could have possibly been a Ukrainian team with outside assistance and expertise.

    In my opinion they would do this sort of thing if it was at the behest of the United States. They would of course try to keep it secret to avoid scandal and to prevent the voters finding out about it.

    What a ridiculous statement. Russia is already at war with Ukraine.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It actually would not be that big of a scandal even if it did turn out to be true and were uncovered.

    There is a war going on in Ukraine, and it's almost like a proxy war between NATO and Russia. Germany has already sent limited military to support to Ukraine and has instituted sanctions against Russia. The issue is that Germany was just a little bit hesitant about the level of military support and degree of totally cutting off trade. The sabotage of the pipeline, even though it could be regarded as an attack against Germany, pushed Germany's hand. There were already voices and pressure inside the German government to cut off the gas.

    So even though this is a shocking type of thing, given the background of the situation, it is not as shocking of an action as it might otherwise be.
    The sabotage of the pipeline just forces Germany to stop buying Russian a gas, a decision the German government was already leaning a little in favor off but was just reluctant to decide to do. It's less an act of aggression against Germany and more of bullying an ally.
     
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