Russia reportedly running out of ammo.

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    https://www.uawire.org/russia-reportedly-running-out-of-ammunition

    Yup....seems like situation is getting a little tense for Dwarfstan.....ammo running low?....he's robbed Belarus of what there was....begged Iran for drones....went groveling to KJ in NK for ammo....and grabbed what he could from Tajikistan earlier.

    I suspect the recent visit by the Chino FM was Putin begging for $$$ and ammo also.
     
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    The Ukrainians are going to steamroll the fascists and send them all the way home this summer.
     
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    How are they low on ammo when they have all the steel?
     
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    Shouldn't start wars when you're not entirely sure of the outcome.
     
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    I think this will definitely hurt??

    https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1628493650752679936?s=20

    Probably why Mafiosi blew up the pipes themselves....since they could've been aware of the lawsuits down the road.
     
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    Where did Putin's ammo go?
     
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    I think that's why Xi Jinping is in town?:)
     
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    It would be kind of tough for China to maintain 'plausible deniability' in the event of large scale ammunition transfers to Russia. Dual use goods shipped via 3rd parties? All good within broad limits and as long as it's done carefully. The thing is that Ukraine and its allies, including the US are actively looking/listening for any signs of weapon shipments to Russia. Iran and NK can get away with it to an extent because hell, they're already pariah states and at the end of the day in terms of the quantity there's little they can do to help. But Chinese munitions would be identified once they turned up on the battlefield in any numbers, that simply can't be avoided.

    And for China? Xi knows he would be taking a great risk for little reward. After all what can Russia give him that he can't already get? They've already maxed out oil and gas transfers because there isn't the infrastructure to send any more. At this stage he probably gets greater political return out of trying to get the best deal possible he can for Putin while by playing international statesman and 'peacemaker' than he does selling the loosing side more ammunition.
     
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    Probably not. Xi wants to pretend to be a peace maker.
     
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    It would be interesting to know what kind of Rat Lines could be used to get ammo to Russia .. not from just China .. a whole lot of other nations have not bought into the sanctions .. not to say this is happening as most Nations would not dare .. but there are a few such as Iran, N Korea that would love to give Vlad weapons .. North Korea has loads and loads of artillery shells .. would probably enjoy an opportunity to give USA a kick in the licky charms .. don't think he is good buddies with Biden like he was with Donald .. not that this would have mattered to "Rocketman" anyway.

    Russia may not even need much help .. Nato's production capacity is ridiculously low .. Vlad probably has more .. and if he had planned for this eventuality ... he could have ramped up already .. ..

    Word on the street is that its Ukraine gonna be out of Ammo by end of Summer .. and at the current rate out of bodies before that .. the Meat Grinder operating full tilt - hearing kill rations of 5-1 or more .. all the Ukrainian vets are Gone .. untrained civilians being fed into the machine .. a generation of Ukrainian lads .. gone .. having to round up new recruits in the streets .. put em through quick 2 week training -- feed them into the trenches --- life expectancy ~ 4 hours.
     
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    Post a link that supports any of your claims.

    You can't do it of course,
     
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    Dayton .. Where have you been .. So glad you showed up .. so glad your back .. have a team you would just love to join .. right up your stack.

    Your jumping in late .. links been provided for everything previously ... but, since your special .. tell me which claim you would like supported and we can begin the crucifixion :)
     
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    Every claim that you've made GD. and I'm not getting "crucified by anyone like you and your ilk.
     
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    no on can be entirely sure of any wars outcome
     
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    Made alot of claims in my day mate .. so you will need to be more specific .. but first start by proving every claim you have made .. and what is "your ilk" ? This should be interesting .. I really think I have found a special group for you .. right here .. in this thread .. a place where you will definitely want to tread ..

    But first you have some work to do .. proving those claims and explaining the definition of "your ilk" :)

    Come on D .. the nails are a waiting .. no hesitating .. time for some fun .. your under the gun. .. and then lets have a little private chat .. those I miss .. I must remiss .. have some tales to tell ya :)
     
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    most of it towards the green teenage Ukrainian Lads manning the trenches
     
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    Just where are "green teenage Ukrainian lads" manning the trenches?
     
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    In Ukraine mate .. trench warfare is what's going down .. old fashioned ground and pound .. this an artillery battle..

    and here are your green teens ...
    War in Ukraine: Uni to uniform - Ukraine's new teenage army recruits

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60724560

    Why you asking these questions Dayton ... did the history teacher not realize that when nations go to war .. some of the soldiers still in their teens ? fresh out of Uni in this case .. head for the front after 3 days training "or close to it" . pretty green wouldn't you say D ?

    What was so difficult that you could not figure out on your own ? What is your angle D .. what is "Your Ilk" tell us how you really feel about those who conflict with your perspective .. ..
     
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    Hahaha....Nato ammo capacity ridiculously low??.....is that why Rheinmetall alone offered to supply A-L-L of Ukraines ammo needs??....trust the Krauts to git er done....gifty.:)

    Word on the street Ukes outta ammo by summers end.....they were supposed to be outta ammo last fall yet....gifty....yet they're still firing...imagine that.....I guess in your case it's selective hearing?

    Looks like Dwarfstan will be suckholing the Chinos for whatever?.....not a problem....since the slants get energy on the cheap(basically for nothing), so they won't mind making the Rashka it's bit** for the next 5 decades.:)
     
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    Your "ilk" are those like you that promote their idealogy fully independent of the actual facts. And just because there are teenagers involved in the fighting in no way means those teenagers are doing the bulk of the fighting.
     
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    He'll try to look that way....but we'll see what happens on the ground.
     
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    "promote idealogy fully independent of actual facts" - Sounds like you got a bird up your feathers Dayton - What is this idealogy got you all butt-hurt before we even start .. and why are you pretending someone said green teens were doing most of the fighting .. don't tell me you are giong to warp into fallacy fantasyland right off the get go ..

    Tell is this idealogy that troubles you so .. don't stumble now and stub your toe ! :) .. or you may find yourself in the backslap pudd pull !
     
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    Rheinmetall can't make Javelins, Stingers, HIMARS, or any of the good stuff. Bullets and conventional artillery? Sure. But not even DPICM out of tube artillery. Rheinmetall can send old fashioned stuff. But that's not what wins wars in 2023.
     
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    Sorry Zoomer.. didn't mean to hurt you .. didn't mean to make you cry .. but thats what the Nato dude said - Those young Ukrainian lads in the trenches are going through ammo "Many Times Faster" than NATO can produce. Simple math my friend its true ..

    but thats not all friend .. running out of bodies .. meat to feed the grinder .. high rate of attrition .. life expectancy of 4 hours.. Time to negotiate mate .. sooner the better .. no need to expend more lives over a cause already lost .. another Biden JV team failure.
     
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    Prove it GD
     

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