Russia reportedly running out of ammo.

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Quit butting into conversations crying "Prove it .. Prove it" .. when already been proved earlier .. while deflecting from other conversation we were having.. What "Ideology" has your back-side so sore .. you following me round trying to nip at my ankles becomming a bore.

    Sup Dayton Cat got tongue .. ?? What ideology has you so troubled .. got them fallacyland blues .. down some rabbit hole looking for clues .. to what we don't know ..what Dayton do ??
     
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    The ones that make the claims of the "invincible" Russians. Now if that offends you go back to running to the moderators.
     
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    You mean like it's been 'proved' that American Generals have been captured by Russian forces, or 'proved' like the way the Russian MOD has claimed the Ukrainian Air-force has been destroyed (several times over) or 'proved' as in the way the entire Ukrainian army was killed long ago and the lines are now manned by tens of thousands of NATO combat troops, in a giant false flag operation or the 'germ warfare labs' in Ukraine or the NATO short range ballistic nuclear missiles in Eastern Europe......

    Basically given your track record i.e. failing to provide citations for claims, denying things posted by you were actually posted by you even though it's there for all to see etc etc I afraid most of the other posters here wouldn't 'trust' you to give truthful report on the weather in Ukraine, let alone the conduct of the war.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why you making up stuff about invincible Russians .. and telling this to me .. then crying about running to the mods as if this would be offensive ? The only thing offensive here is the stain on humanity .. LOL :) Har Har Har...
     
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    I wish I could like this post more than once. You nailed it.
     
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    Talking to me?
     
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    GD is grifty.
     
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    Why you talking this nonsense .. and pretending that I said it ? What kind of fallacious projection problem is it that you have ? Did I tell you its been proven that American Generals have been Captured .. No Monash .. this is silly nonsense you made up .. because you have no game other than strawman fallacy.
     
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    You've already denied posting comments on this forum that you put up, you habitually refuse to provide citations for statements of 'fact' made in your posts and the examples I listed a re quoted as 'facts' by several of your fellow travelers in the "I love Putin' fan club.

    And for the records while yes, I would prefer that Ukraine win this war based on the fact that it was Russia invaded it not the other way round! I am also quite clear eyed about about the possibility that if Ukraine makes enough mistakes it could lose this war. To date that seems unlikely based purely by the relative lack of progress Russia is making on the battlefield and the confirmed losses of manpower, equipment and material both sides have suffered. But that could change at any time. I acknowledge this fact, you don't and never have.

    My point is that I am interested in provable facts and figures regarding the progress of the war not propaganda! And as a consequence I base my assessments of progress by one side or the other on what are generally regarded reliable and independently verifiable sources. You have demonstrated time and again that you are not such a source! End of story.
     
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    The last time a bloke called Monash stomped someone that badly the Kaiser surrendered. :D
     
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    I liked' that comment and thought 'Wait a moment, is he referring to me?!'
     
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    You and another more famous version of you. ;)
     
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    Grifty got stomped.
     
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    Putin running out of Amm?? If that is the case...this might be one of the topics he is discussing with Chinese Leader........
    They have three days...... to work on their plans......and Putin NEEDS China ......and China seems to have appointed itself as peace maker..........(whatever that means in their language). World power shift taking place........
    They might be running out of ammo..........but not running out of threats..........with the latest being "nuking" any country that acts on the arrest of Putin.

    and Putin is MAD (crazy) enough to do it.

    an aside but relevant.....Twenty years since the crazy Iraq invasion........and it is being used as an excuse to start more Pre-emptive wars.

    That nasty bit of arrogance and destruction......has not done this country any favors....Respect was lost from that event.........and then continued downhill even more under trump.*and his isolationist approach............in a world that is tightly networked on so many levels.........one country can't really function without others now.

    Just hope that China remains as "neutral".......as it would be wise to do ...............and not give Putin any weapons ....
     
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    Victor Bout better pull his finger out.
     
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    Purile false nonsense mate .. Prove your claim that I have denied previous comments .. and quit projecting your failings onto others .. such as a love of authoritarian control freaks like Putin.

    Do you have anything other than Ad Hom and stawman fallacy to contribute mate ... ?
     
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    Accusing others of promoting a "strawman fallacy" is the first refuge of the ignorant
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No its not .. .. and once agin projecting your failings onto others .. calling others 'Ignorant" when it is your comment that is an exercise in ignorance .. and a deflection from the last post to you to which you have not responded ?

    "Why you making up stuff about invincible Russians .. and telling this to me .. then crying about running to the mods as if this would be offensive ? The only thing offensive here is the stain on humanity .. :) "
     
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    Let's not forget that the ChiComs need their great big Eurasian gas station, too, so what we have here is an opportunity for both sides to get something they need. For Vlad the Invader, it is an opportunity to score weapons and munitions, for Chairman Mao 2.0 it's an opportunity to score some oil, gas and perhaps raw materials. It's little wonder there's so much glad-handing going on in Moscow this week.

    However, all of the Chinese arms in the world aren't going to fix all the structural problems in the Russian military that have been on display for the past year, from its poor civilian and military leadership to its reliance on raw conscripts to its absence of a professional NCO corps to it's laughably bad excuse for logistics. All of that and more is going to plague the Russian army throughout the duration of this war, and that's why it has been forced to resort to its characteristically blunt tactics that are reminiscent of World War I.

    Ahhh, but Putin doesn't need to be crazy enough to use nukes, he just needs the weak and cowardly "leaders" of the West to think he's crazy enough to use them. He knows they're afraid of him and because of that he knows he can intimidate them with his nuclear saber rattling, which is nothing more than a bluff. He knows a full scale nuclear war will end in his and Russia's destruction and he knows that the use of tactical nukes in Ukraine would likely prove counterproductive in every imaginable way, most importantly drawing NATO into the war. The reason Putin is beating his chest is because he knows how poorly his third-rate army has performed in Ukraine, and he's not about to risk it getting stomped by NATO and the United States, so this war will remain conventional (and attritional).
     
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    Puutlerstan is counting on the Chicoms to ....basically...get him outta his pickle that he's found himself in...he knows it. And I may suspect that Xi may oblige...to a point where he may supply Putler just enough hardware so as the clowns military takes a further stomping ....weakening it further to a point where the Kremlin couldn't challenge Chinos "aspirations" elsewhere....like Siberia and the Far East.:laughing:
     
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    Looks like we got ourselves a backslap pudd-pull fellas .. Can I join in on the girl gossip .. :) Har Har Har. got a group you fella's might want to join .. but first..

    What is with this whiny projection .. USVet gets spanked every time .. as does Monash and Big Fella .. who has yet to figure out what an argument is never mind make one. .

    So whats the problem this time lads .. where is the stomping .. from the three who show up at my door with bootmarks on face .. trying to tar me with your anti american doublespeak ... drunk on the collectivist koolaid ..

    Come on lads .. show us where those boot marks on your faces came from .. Where is Dayton ... sure he will be chiming in soon .. himself having more than a few as well.

    Chop Chop Lads .. lets get to the argument part of the session .. :)
     
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    Also a water station! China has a chronic water shortage.

    And speaking of supplying oil, that could get messy:

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    Emperor Xi is in a pickle himself. If he wants to gobble up Taiwan before the daft and cowardly inhabitant of the White House leaves office in two years, he can't be giving all his arms to his vassal in the Ulus of Jochi.

    And, yes - one day Siberia will be the largest province in China. :grin: Perhaps, even sooner than we expect.
     
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    What "stain on humanity"? If you had any knowledge of the Cold War (and mine is vast") you would know that accusations of western nations "running out of munitions" are routine
     
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    The "daft and cowardly" president has promised to help defend Taiwan if it is attacked.

    Also, your current avatar is absurd in light of how well he has handled both Putler and Mao 2.0.
     
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