Russia to West: D-Day wasnt decisive in ending WW2.

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  1. zoom_copter66

    zoom_copter66 Well-Known Member

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    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ding-world-war-two-idUSKCN1T620J?fbclid=IwAR2



    Russkis are so full of ****....they like to think theyre some kind of legends in their own mind, and if it wasn't for the western allies, and its industrial might...the Ussr would've collapsed totally in 1941/42. Funny how that's always forgotten in the Russki narrative of the "great Patriotic War"?

    D-Day was creation of a third front so to speak....second front was up through Italy.

    It was American bombers during the day and British/Canadian bombers at night that destroyed Germanys ability to effectively fight a war....Russkis had no "air force" to speak of. The Brits started with raids on Berlin in late 1940.

    It was fortress USA/British/Canada that continued to supply the Russkis with trucks, ships, weaponry, ammunition, jeeps, small armoured vehicles, and planes thru Lend Lease. It was a constant stream of ships to Murmansk and other Pacific ports and overland thru Iran in 1942.

    WRT....Eastern front, it was Ukranians, , Belorussians, and many other minorities that were used as cannon fodder on the front line where probably 1 in 3 soldiers with rifles and an NKVD unit behind them to shoot down anyone who retreated. Asiatic vatniks when advancing through Ukraine, Belorussia "recruited" villagers....basically at gunpoint and within 2-3 days were at the frontline with hardly any training if any as fresh cannon fodder.

    So this clueless sookah moskalka "Zakharova" doesn't hae a ****ing clue what shes yapping about. Wait...maybe she does, just chooses to lie anyway and ignore historical truth....LOL.
     
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    "D-Day in 1944 did not play a decisive role in ending World War Two"....ok, the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki certainly did. Sure, the Soviet forces took Berlin and Nazi Germany surrendered as a result, but bombing of Japan ended WW2.
     
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    I still remember old Soviet history textbook where soviets themselves were saying that the second front from the west released tremendous pressure from the Soviet Army and allowed them to push forward into Germany.
    This woman is an idiot!
     
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    We live in 2019, whats the fuss about this old crap?

    In 2019 Germany rules Europe as Hegemon, UK has fallen on protectorate level and France follows evry order we give. Russia has fallen on 3rd world level and is basicly a nigeria with snow.

    Its always amusing to see this rubbish is the last thing some countries have. The most funny is the UK. When you see their media, its like WW II is still running. All the while they habe sunken so deep, that we actually feel pity for them.
     
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    She's right about Stalingrad. I know certain uninformed posters will make stupid replies but it is what it is. The war turned in Stalingrad...that was the beginning of the end of the Nazis. They call it Volgograd now for those of you who want to look it up on a map to see just how far the Nazis got.
     
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    You are not a russian. :) you are an american pretending to be a russian.
     
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    I think it’s the other way around.
     
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    I've never claimed to be a Russian and I'm not pretending to be anything. But you're a known quantity, so go on back to kraut heaven and don't reply to me anymore.
     
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    No, he knows nothing about Russia. He first said he is Russian, then i exposed him.
     
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    Keep talking kraut, and I'll keep talking.
     
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    I reply to what i want. Know your place. You did claim to be russkie. Even said so in a PM.
     
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    I agree. In the US you hear about WWII on days like D-Day, May 8th and when they find something from that era, like a submarine or a fighter aircraft. In my native Ukraine it’s pretty much the same + when they find an air bomb that failed to explode.
    Russian news, though, are full of WWII, you can see something almost every couple of weeks. On May 9 they even have car and motorcycle rallies with signs like “we can do it again”, “towards the Berlin” and so on.
    It gets from funny to sad when they continue to show WWII veterans that look like they are in their 60s, when in reality true WWII are at least 90 years old and can barely walk or say anything, especially if one were to consider the life expectancy in Russia.

    That country had nothing to show for its achievements in a very long time and now they pretty much engage in necrophilia by continuously bringing up the WWII and revisioning historical events. Sad and pathetic.
     
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    Well, you claimed to be an American.
    I guess another employee of the internet research agency was exposed!
     
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    No I didn't dipshit. Germans have got to be the dumbest people on Earth. Отвали.
     
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    Yeah pretty pathetic, yet they beg for scraps from Germany
     
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    Yes you did. No reason to get rude comrade.
     
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    Back in August 1942.....just before Stalingrad, Molotov made a quick visit to DC....begging FDR and George C Marshall for more aid because soon Germans will be hammering Stalingrad.

    Face it...without all that help....Russki were ****ed....even socks and tins of Spam were sent.

    Your Katyushkas....half of them, were Ford Studebakers. Otherwise those Stalin Organs would've been useless against German Tigers, Panthers, and 8 wheeled Pumas.
     
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    D-Day and the American presence on the western front in general was 100% an effort to curb Soviet aquisition of Europe. The Nazi's had one brief shot at crippling the SU by blitzing to Moscow before winter and they blew it. As soon as winter hit with Moscow still in Soviet control, the Nazi's lost, and the entire world knew it. Russia had moved their entire industrial base east and it was just a matter of time until they rolled the Nazi's up like an old map. WW2 was a tank war. By the time the US entered play, Russia had better tanks and could build more of them by far.

    We knew if the RussComs took all of Europe the resulting conflict would devastate the globe. So it became a race to see who could take Nazi territory the fastest. Thus D-Day.
     
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    Russki were ****ed.....that's why the massive lend lease. We should've pushed the Sovsback into the SU or halted them somewhere in Belarus....it's not like we couldn't have.....Patton was right about the buggers.
     
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    Forget WW2, comrade, let's focus on how to prevent WW3 (or 4, whatever you call it).
     
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    True but the Russsians didn't engage the Japanese. their war was in Europe. There is no question that the Russians were successful in the war and helped end it. There is also no question that D Day was a major milestone in the allied victory.
     
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    I lol at that analogy. :D
     
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    At least one book I read stated that if Hitler didn't send all those divisions to North Africa to save Mussolini's butt and instead had them on the eastern front it might have been enough to tip the balance. Even if Moscow fell, it isn't clear whether they would have surrendered.
     
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    Thats been the most common conclusion I've read: that Hitler got sidetracked pulling Mussolini out of the mud.

    Russia wouldn't have surrendered, but the Communist regime would have toppled with Moscow and the nation would've been in too much chaos to mount effective defense.
     
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    I have a question, why exactly do you care about this old **** that happened thousands of years ago?

    History is like it is. In the end it would have been better for Europe if D-Day failed but Stauffenberg suceeded.

    We must deal with the events that happened and make the best out of it.
     

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