Russian forces encircled in Syria.

Nope. Never said it. Another of your false claims.

 

Sounds like Nabby may be toasted soon.

https://x.com/PStyle0ne1/status/1867131484965892591

 

Avoid upper floor windows.

 

Never said what Jack .. what a joke .. what is it hat you never said or posted .. backslapped or hosted Jack. "Russians are Surrounded" - .. in conjunction with some fake news about Ukrainians training the Turkish backed Islamic State fighters in drones .. in desperate attempt to show that Russia soldiers in the region are somehow in peril .. the Russians in the Region at the time of posting this silliness .. all hold up in the Russian Ports .. watching from safety .. not a target of the Islamic State .. and thus a complete fail on your part Jack .. along with the normal false accusation.

Is false personal invective all you are capable of Jack - how many times were you told that this is not an argument .. try harder Jack .. support the claims you make with something .. .. .. What is it that you did not say Jack ... did you not see the title of the OP ? were you not supporting this claim .. or are you talking falsehood .. once again .. a swing and a miss in the "Gotcha Game"

Did you not realize that "encircled" and "surrounded" are the same thing Jack .. is that the problem Jack ?

 

Never said either "encircled" or "surrounded." Your falsehoods continue, as do the Pootster's defeats.

 

" Deputies of A Just Russia have already introduced a bill on the early removal of the head of the Central Bank"

Who are these "Deputies of a Just Russia" Zoomer .. and why should we care .. in relation to these Russian forces encircled somewhere in Syria.

How will these encircled Russians be rescued Zoomie .. and what about that "Fake News" story the cheer team was promoting about the Ukrainians Training your beloved ISIS fighters in the art of the Drone !! .. and then going after Russians ... hold up in the Russian Ports .. encircling them ..

Fog of war Zoomie .. anything is possible .. Right !

 

Refreshing your memory.
David Ignatius
Syrian rebels had help from Ukraine in humiliating Russia

The Syrian rebels who swept to power in Damascus last weekend received drones and other support from Ukrainian intelligence operatives who sought to undermine Russia and its Syrian allies, according to sources familiar with Ukrainian military activities abroad. . . .

 

Jack .. Putin has not been defeated .. the OP claim that the Russians are encircled is false ... "Fake News " Jack. Are you now in agreement that the OP that Zoomie put up is "Fake News" .. and that you never argued in support of the position of the OP .

Jack .. these Gotcha game tricks .. like swatting flies with a baseball bat . Tell us why you believe the OP is "Fake News" Jack .. and why would Zoomer post such poorly sourced product.

Russia is not overstretched at all Zoomie .. you are confusing Russia for Yooki Mafiosi .. part of why they are so stretched is selling weapons on the black market .. criminal state of the cocaine cowboy from Kyiv but what can we say .. both the Russians and Iran chose not to play .. while they were trying to help Assad .. he just didn't want it .. so they stood on the side and watched .. having nothing to do with being overstretched .. this inability to assess the board is unfortunate but perhaps .. you might be able to help Jack .. Explain to him that Pootster has not been defeated .. that opposed to the OP .. there are no Russian troops who are encircled by anti Russian forces being aided by Ukrainian Drone .. operators.

 

Like rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.

 

Thats what they did already, Erdogan's rebels lootet a lot of orc equipment.

 

What part of "Fake news" .. have you yet to figure out Jack ? You were told this how many times .. "Fake News" .. Please tell us what the Ukrainian MOD has to say about this news Jack ..

 

He sent his military into Syria to prop up Assad and now he's out in spite of that. That is a defeat, mate. I know you want to pretend that the Pootster was responsible for that too, that he is master strategist and nothing happens without his planning and executing it, but it's pretty hard to pretend in this case.

 

Lucky them as Israeli's destroying everything they can find .. lucky for Orcs as will be selling more Orc equipment this new Islamic State.

 

Now you're just ducking and dodging. You can only hide behind falsehoods for so long.

 

Yep....lotsa finger pointing in Zorcistan.

 

Pootler is pi$$sed.....lotsa missiles flying into Ukraine now.....90% shot down of course.

 

Why are you pretending to have some knowledge of the situation Durandal .. that 10 years ago Russia and Iran were helping Assad to defeat the Islamic State .. has little to do with the situation in the Present .... one in which Assad was moving away from both Russia and Iran .. towards the Gulf States .. and in fact refusing help from Russia and Iran just prior to the downfall .. Refusing to listen to Iran telling him that something was coming .. same with Russia .. and when it came .. Russia tried to help a little but when it was clear that the regime was not going to fight back .. running away .. the Russians and Iranians withdrew and stood on the sidelines. .. Which is not a defeat Durandal.

What "master strategy " ? Putin is busy in Ukraine .. Turkey is making moves that are insane .. along with Israel and to some degree the US .. what the battlefield is going to look like after the fact .. we have no ability right now to predict . .. whether it will be better or worse strategically for Russia. .. and only one who has very poor board assessment skills would dare to make a prediction either way.

What defeat ? Russia's army not participating .. does not mean their army was defeated .. and they did not have squat there to to begin with .. had they participated .. While Assad was a strategic Ally .. was of the kind that was a fair bit of trouble .. and no reason why Russia can not be a stragetic ally with "Who knows what" is going to replace Assad. Certainly the Islamic State is no bigger problem .. he has very good relations with the Islamists living in Russia at the moment .. some of which came to fight for the Islamic State .. Got Islamist Jihadists from Russia fighting against Ukraine .. Got Islamist Jihadists from Russia fighting Against Assad -- not the faintest idea what is happening on the board .. and you are crying out "Defeat .. Defeat"

Putin had his military there .. a small amount .. he does have a base or two there after all .. which is to help ally Assad .. and these took action in the first few days .. just as a reaction .. how else they supposed to react .. a force is attacking .. .. do some bombing runs .. to aid /support the Syrian Army .. but the Syrian Army Disappeared ... and so with nothing to support Putin withdrew his military .. not sent his Military. You don't know what you are talking about.

 

I'm going to have to go ahead and stop you there, mate. The fact that IS is still there today shows that mafialand had no interest in defeating IS. Their only interest was in stopping rebels of all kinds from toppling Assad and threatening their precious military bases there. That's what they spent years doing, and that has now failed. Now it's the US stepping up attacks on IS to assure that they don't take over in Syria, to help ensure that Syria's new government will not be a bunch of head-chopping extremists. But no matter who takes over, Pootler lost.

 

Defeat is a euphemism. Take into consideration that their economy before the Ukraine war already relied a lot on military exports and the reputation to be a super power that can give protection to its puppets. Geez, that reputation went quicker down than Kamala Harris on a man that can provide an office to her. Every tyran in this world realizes now, Pootin is a toothless tiger and if they rely on Russia they will be played by all super and regional powers.

Who wants to buy their military equipment after this performances anymore? Dictators for whom Chinese or North Korean stuff is too expensive? I would call that rather a humiliation, then a simple "defeat".

 

I don't know how many options the other dictators have when it comes to military equipment. Mafialand's kit isn't the best, but the US is probably not going to supply them either. If they want something that can deter their neighbors or enable them to do some offending themselves, they probably will still turn to Pootler's discount Commie Army kits. Otherwise they'll have to build their own, and that isn't easy.

 

Yep....Mafiosi was only concerned of what nutcase rebels might topple Assad(who assured their presence there), any other rebels they could care less.

As long as they could project their forces into Africa and ME....who cares.

They got wiped out in Mali....now Assad is toppled and all bets are off.

 

They can buy garage made drones on the market, maybe the cheapest North Korean gear and maybe even some Chinese stuff?

 

Yeah, I guess if China is interested in selling their stuff to the same clientele, that might be an option. Drones don't look impressive on parade and can't entirely make up for more sophisticated systems.

 

Stop what .. good Gracious .. you have absolutely no understanding of what happened in the Syrian War .. The reason Russia - Iran - Syrian Army did not wipe out all of ISIS in Syria .. is because those that remain .. are in the US-Turkey Protected Zones ? You have absolutely no understanding of what you speak

The war in Syria - as of 2013 when the Islamic State was declared .. was a war between Assad .. and the Islamic State. all the various Islamist Jihadi groups .. in including ISIS and Al Qaeda .. Al Nusra and many others .. had achieved their goal .. the dream of the Holy Jihad .. which is what this conflict was .. and "NOT" a civil war. That was part of the lie you have been believing all these years D .. parroted by your favorite media lady Rachel Madow .. along with the "Moderate Rebel Lie"

Sorry - as of Late 2013 -- it is the Islamic State vs Assad -- USA - and a coalition of 30 other nations backing the Islamic State .. Iran - Hezbollah backing Syria .. Russia involved but not yet heavily on the side of Assad.

The Islamic State at this point controls every major city in Syria except Demascus .. 2 years later .. this new Nation .. with a booming economy .. both criminal and legit .. a Gov't .. Courts .. a fully functioning state .. Obama's pride and Joy .... and where the term JV-Team comes from .. as per Obama's comments that these were just a Junior Varsity Team .. heh heh .. now you know the rest of the story about Obama's JV-Team .. but mind you he also had another in the Kurds ... but they have nothing to do with the fight against Assad ..they were fending off Turkey and ISIS .. and US would not give them weapons to fend off ISIS early on .. but that not relevant at the moment.

In 2015 -- Obama's JV-Team is knocking on the Doors of Demascus ... The Assad Regime about to fall .. this is when Russia enters the war .. and over the next 2 years .. city by city .. defeating the Islamic State .. except for Raqqa. The reason they did not take Raqqa is because it was in the US protected Zone.

Then .. it was USA under Trump who betrayed the JV-Team .. helped the Kurds .. who the US was now backing in the battle for Raqqa .. Trump then declaring it was he who defeated ISIS .. and of course you believed him ... because there is no Propaganda in the west .. Right

While the IS remnants were kicked out of the city .. they still remained in the protected zones of US and Turkey .... many taken prisoner .. kept in that zone ..but then released .. such your new fearless leader .. now "reprogramed" by his own admission .. leading a band of merry Jihadists on the Mission that Biden's JV-Team finally managed to finish.

what part is not clear D ? .. it is just a matter of knowing the History .. .. No one believes the Moderate Rebel lie anymore D .. it is no secret the nature of what we are supporting -- his glorious past earning him a 10 million dollar bride price.

Now .. this claim that the US is attacking its own JV-Team -- again .. again meaning since Raqqa 8 years ago .. not having raised a finger against them since then .. now is attacking some IS rebels .. different than the Turkish and US backed IS rebels .. so that the IS rebels will not take over Syria - smacks of false narrative D .. you have once again sniffed out some Ganda .. cept .. you didn't realize what it was you were sniffing.

 

Oh, I do. The US has a pretty small footprint in Syria, a small area in the south of the country. Then there are the Kurds we support, hardly a "protected zone" but a US-friendly one, perhaps. But none of those are IS-controlled, of course. We bomb IS in Syria. We don't protect them.